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Hawaii to Ariz.: Prove need to verify Obama birth
My Fox Phoenix.Com ^ | 5/19/2012 | Joshua Wisch

Posted on 05/19/2012 9:35:37 AM PDT by Elderberry

OBAMA-ARIZONA BALLOT

Hawaii to Ariz.: Prove need to verify Obama birth

PHOENIX (AP) - The attorney general's office in Hawaii is telling Arizona's secretary of state that if he wants confirmation of President Barack Obama's birth records, he'll have to prove he legitimately needs it.

Special Assistant Joshua Wisch said late Friday that Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett hasn't done that despite numerous email and phone exchanges between their offices.

Wisch says Hawaii state laws require Bennett to show legal authority that this office needs the records to update its official lists as part of its ordinary work.

Wisch says as soon as Bennett gives Hawaii adequate authority, the Aloha State will verify Obama's birth.

Bennett said in a radio interview this week that Obama's status on Arizona's ballot is in question unless Hawaii verifies his birthplace.

Hawaii officials have confirmed multiple times that Obama was born there.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 2scary4words; 2suspicious4words; birthcertificate; coverup; eligibility; hawaii; illegalalien; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: Red Steel
"Arizona to Hawaii: Obama has no need to be on the AZ presidential election ballot."

LOLZ, Red.

201 posted on 05/20/2012 7:24:59 PM PDT by Miss Behave (All ways, always.)
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ltr


202 posted on 05/20/2012 9:45:56 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


203 posted on 05/20/2012 9:48:41 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Elderberry
No Problem. Did Arizona discharge its duty to verify if Obama is qualified to be on the Ballot -Yes

Did Arizona find reasonable proof that Obama is qualified to be on the Ballot -No

204 posted on 05/21/2012 1:02:12 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: hoosiermama

“would you mind placing a link to that article here on FR and pinging me to it.”

Here is the link.

http://truebluenz.com/2011/04/12/witnesses-claim-obama-admitted-being-ineligible-for-president-in-c-span-debate/

Sorry, don’t know how to ping.


205 posted on 05/21/2012 3:01:52 AM PDT by wistful
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To: wistful

You know how to ping and just did. It’s simply writing a person’s name in the “TO” box.

Thank you very much for the link.


206 posted on 05/21/2012 4:22:02 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: wistful; LucyT; bitt

Do we have these comments just linked saved somewhere....Seem to remember something disappearing was it just the tape?


207 posted on 05/21/2012 4:29:33 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama

I don’t know if the comments are still around, but I find it hard to believe that there is not a video tape of the incident somewhere.

Of course the annoying thing now is that those who should have been backing us on this for so long but have failed to do so are now saying that Obama’s claims (on the record) that he was born in Kenya are lies and that he was born in Hawaii.

They’d rather say he was a liar, or embellishing, or stuff like that than the truth that he is a damn imposter and fake who was never qualified to be a Presidential Candidate and he should be immediately removed from office and jailed for fraud.

Spineless surrender monkeys. They disgust me.


208 posted on 05/21/2012 9:53:24 AM PDT by wistful
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To: butterdezillion

I’m sure you’ve been informed multiple times, but your posts are the first item up on the BirtherReport, Obama Release Your Records right now.

Congratulations.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/05/arizona-v-hawaii-eligibility-researcher.html


209 posted on 05/21/2012 10:25:18 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Squantos
Don’t put the Dali’Bama on the ballot. Make the sob’s file a suit an take it the the supreme court.

BTTT.

210 posted on 05/21/2012 5:10:49 PM PDT by snowsislander (Please, America, no more dog-eating Kenyan cokeheads in the Oval Office.)
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To: butterdezillion

In the State of Arizona a Presidential Candidate (at least minor and independent parties and write in candidates) have to sign an oath that they are natural born and eligible to hold the office they are seeking. (A.R.S. § 16-242)

You are hereby notified that I, ___________________________________
am seeking nomination as a candidate for the office of President of the United States from the ________________________________________ Party, at the Presidential Preference Election to be held on the 28th day of February 2012. I am a natural born citizen of the United States, am at least thirty-five years of age, and have been a resident within the United States for at least fourteen years.

And A.R.S. § 16-311(D) requires that “A candidate must file an affidavit of qualification that includes facts sufficient to show that, other than the residency requirement, the candidate will be qualified at the time of election to hold the office sought.”

Secretary Bennett, I am sure, is charged with carrying out federal elections in a uniform manner. That means that if minor, independent and write-in presidential candidates have to swear an oath that they are natural born citizens and are eligible to assume the office, so do major political party candidates.

The Secretary accepts these oaths of eligibility based on a “presumption or assumption of truth” and does not verify the authenticity of the oaths. However, if an allegation of ineligibility is raised by an elector that assumption of truth is undermined.

That has occurred with candidate Obama. More than 1,000? Arizona electors have raised concerns to the Secretary about candidate Obama’s ineligibility. Concerns that were legitimized by one of his own law enforcement agencies, the Maricopa County Sheriff Department, when they made a Probable Cause finding that the document Obama is using to qualify for the presidential ballot in Arizona is a forgery.

When Obama posted that BC on the White House Website and held a press conference announcing it he effectively handed it over to every elector and SOS in the United States as “proof” of his citizenship status, a critical element of eligibility in Arizona.

Once Sheriff Arpaio made a Probable Cause Finding, concerning the forged BC of candidate Obama, the Secretary had an obligation to formally investigate. A six month law enforcement investigation, a Probable Cause Finding of Forgery and a continuing investigation is more than enough for the Secretary to authorize his legal department to go forward with an investigation in to the allegations which would qualify as a “legal proceeding’.

At this stage the Secretary can ask Hawaii for a ‘Letter of Verification’ under HRS 338-18 (b) (g,4) which states that if a Hawaii birth record is the subject of a lawsuit or introduced in a legal proceeding that the lawyer involved in the case can request a Letter of Verification in lieu of a certified copy.

HRS 338-18 (b) (g,4) also states that a Letter of Verification will verify the existence of a birth certificate on file with the Department of Health “and any other information that the applicant provides to be verified relating to the vital event.”

The request for a letter of Verification can not be a blanket request. It has to be specific to the document that was posted on the White House Website on April 27th, 2011. It has to ask for every word and marking on that document to be verified.


211 posted on 05/21/2012 7:12:22 PM PDT by ethical
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To: ethical; butterdezillion


212 posted on 05/22/2012 5:15:47 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

I just noticed something, but to check it I’d need to see other candidates’ nomination papers for the AZ “Presidential Preference Election”.

Anybody know if those are posted somewhere?


213 posted on 05/22/2012 5:46:40 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

The form
http://www.azsos.gov/election/2008/PPE/Nomination_Paper_PPE_Feb_5_2008.pdf

2008 Maricopa County results
https://www.azsos.gov/election/2008/PPE/HandCount/Hand_Count_08_PPE_Maricopa.pdf

Searching for awhile for any others’ 2007-08 AZ pres pref forms is not coming up.


214 posted on 05/22/2012 6:30:20 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: hoosiermama

I remember at least two, and I think three, freepers saying they saw the debate on (IIRC) CNN live, and in between or right after the “official” debate there was an exchange between Keyes and 0mugabe in which 0mugabe admitted he wasn’t eligible but that he “wasn’t running for president”. Then when the debate was shown again that part was cut; someone had (again, IIRC) saved it to view later.

Perhaps that bit wasn’t but until a bit more later.

Keyes later said he didn’t remember that exchange. Whether he really didn’t, or was convinced not to remember, who knows. He seems like a many who would not be easily silenced.


215 posted on 05/22/2012 7:46:22 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Vigilanteman
Maybe Arizona should refer to Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution. I wonder if they have one lying around somewhere in Hawaii . . .

How dare you bring some document like the Constitution of the United States in to this /sarcasm

216 posted on 05/22/2012 7:55:18 PM PDT by NYRepublican72
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To: little jeremiah
That was back when was on dial up and didn't watch the captured video. But now that you mention it I do vaguely remember that it was edited out.
217 posted on 05/22/2012 8:17:55 PM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya."..Is he lying now or was he lying then?)
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