Skip to comments.Zimmerman murder case looks like long shot
Posted on 05/19/2012 3:36:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Unless Angela Corey has something she's not telling us, her second-degree-murder case against George Zimmerman is looking more and more like a long shot.
The special prosecutor assigned to investigate the death of Trayvon Martin released hundreds of pages of evidence last week.
But any expectation of a bombshell to explain her reason for filing a murder charge which comes with a much higher burden of proof than a manslaughter charge was short-lived.
The documents failed to answer the case's biggest questions: Who started the fight between Zimmerman and Trayvon? And whose voice was heard screaming for help on a 911 call?
None of the witnesses saw the entire confrontation between the two, or who threw the first punch.
The evidence does, however, support Zimmerman's claim that he was assaulted by Trayvon whether Zimmerman started it or not.
Photos of Zimmerman's bloodied head and swollen nose show he was injured.
On the other hand, Trayvon's autopsy report showed no sign of bruising or other injuries that would indicate he was punched by the Neighborhood Watch leader.
That only further serves to bolster Zimmerman's claim that Trayvon went after him and that he shot Trayvon in self-defense.
It can't be good for Corey when her discovery documents appear to strengthen the defendant's case more than her own.
The best piece of evidence for the prosecutor is something we already knew but was explicitly stated in a Sanford police report: Trayvon's death was "ultimately avoidable" if Zimmerman had stayed in his vehicle and waited for law enforcement to arrive....
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I don’t know why you think it’s such a stretch that Saint Trayvon was high that night.
It was really a perfect time for him to get high.
His dad was out for a night on the town with his girlfriend.
Here Saint Trayvon is, stuck in his dad’s girlfriend’s townhouse with her 12-year-old son.
His friends are back in Miami probably watching the NBA All-Star game, joking around and getting high and having a good time.
Saint Trayvon was probably feeling sorry for himself and decided to get a good buzz on.
It doesn’t take a lot of imagination to see that. We know the kid liked to smoke weed.
Thanks for the link Traveler59—it brought back some good memories. It was in the wake of the Duke Lacrosse case that I first became TRULY convinced of the complete corruption and evil nature of both the main stream media and academia. Rush Limbaugh started my awakening to the truth, but my experiences and observations during the Duke Lacrosse case completed the awakening. I honestly believe that Rush, sites such as Free Republic and blogs such as ones highly active in the Lacrosse case produced the seeds from which the Tea Party movement ultimately grew and continues to grow.
Seeing a self-organizing countering force of decent folk spontaneously rise up in the blogosphere (e.g., on websites such as Liestoppers & Durham-in-Wonderland) renewed my faith in the American people. They showed that such ordinary people (although in my mind they were anything but ordinary), with truth and relentless spirits on their side, could fight back successfully against an establishment attempting the oppression of the Duke Lacrosse players. Their refusal to accept ANY tyranny inspires me to this day. I spent a lot of time on the Liestoppers site during that time. The fundamental decency of folks who I knew only by their “user names” shown through their postings clearly.
I never implied or suggested he wasn't.
Judging by the high percentage of criminals who have it in their bloodstream when arrested, pot is definitely the choice of criminals, I guess criminal types, and the crime of illegal drugs go hand in hand.
Yes, pot increases violence behavior. In the 70s, my girlfriend smoke it, did the big chicken, starting running after cars, jumping on their hoods, attempting to get at the occupants. They found her on my neighbors back porch eating dog food.
Then I am not sure what your argument is.
Are you saying that it is NOT true that when people are stoned their judgment is impaired, and they tend to do things they would not do if sober?
That is not imagination, that is a fact.
It is quite plausible that if Trayvon was NOT high then maybe he would have thought twice before swinging on Zimmerman.
Are you claiming that Trayvon was NOT a wannabe “gangsta”?
That is pretty well-established from his web pages, No_Limit_Nigga, the attack on the bus driver, the idolization of C-Murder, the refereeing the street fights, the gold teeth and tats, and so on.
See #50 for clarification.
Mine too. Although some here think that because her (allegedly) being Republican makes that an impossibility.
Well, I’m talking about Saint Trayvon in particular given his own particular circumstances.
Obviously thugs on the street in general don’t need to be high to attack someone.
Although smokey da weed does seem to be part of the “thug life” and they do enjoy “dey blunts”.
Guess Trayvon was beating up the 'white hispanic' for being white...
Please may I add a few:
10: Trayvon’s mom did not see a suspension from school as an excuse to send her kid on a vacation.
11: His dad understood that his kid was there under less than favorable circumstances and used the evening to make his son a better man instead of going to dinner with a woman who was not your son’s mother.
12:Someone, anyone had taken interest in this kid and gotten him off of the path he took. Wow just wow. Mom has a flipping posse but no son. How is that working for you?
GZs 911 call says "he looks like......he's on drugs or something". If that portion of the tape gets admitted, it'll open the door for all kinds of theories.
Have we considered the possibility that an open trial was the only way to get the truth out past the media hype and filtering? I think it’s turning out to be the best possible outcome for Zimmerman; if thins continue as they’ve been going, he’ll be publicly vindicated in a way he never would have been had it been left to the left-wing propagandists in the press.
When I was around heavy pot users many years ago, it was a world of quite a bit of violence, gun play, knife play, drug deals, prostitution, and even murder, quite a bit of death and all types of crime, just like today.
I think some people here are middle class straights, hang around with middle class straights, and think that the entire pot world is like that.
She certainly isn’t doing Zimmerman any convoluted favors. The simple fact that he is arrested and charged paves the way for a civil case which is what Trayvon’s family (or should I say lawyers) really wanted. That was made rather plain after the prosecutor’s announcement.
FWIW Angela Corey works for the state of FL not Holder and the DoJ.
OOOps. Why did I think she was taking orders from Holder? Mea culpa. That being said, she’s still a LIAR and a jerk.
Wrong, grow up child.
She is a liar and after seeing her press conference I would say a kook. While she doesn’t work for Holder she may hope to and she may take suggestions from him. But for now she is Gov. Rick Scott’s attack dog.
The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten and his jaw broken. He was shot in the face numerous times with a BB gun and sent to the hospital in critical condition.
The 85 year old partially blind wife was RAPED and then BEATEN TO DEATH.
Can you just imagine the pain, the humiliation, the horror that dear old lady experienced being gang raped by that pack of feral animals?
(the autopsy states she was raped. Dont think all of these animals didnt all participate)
And can you imagine the pain, the horror of that dear old husband having to witness this?
Mr. Strait died from his injuries last week.
Theres a lot more involved here than a home invasion and robbery.
WHERE ARE THE CHARGES OF A RACIAL HATE CRIME??
90 year old husbands jaw broken and shot in face with a BB gun numerous times?
85 wife year old semi blind wife RAPED and BEATEN to death??
Why does it take a foreign press to enlighten America as to this henious crime?
WHERE IS THE NATIONAL OUTRAGE?
Have they caught the rest of the gang of feral blacks who raped, tortured and murdered this elderly woman? Are they even looking? Not a word about it in the media.
That is an excellent analysis of what might likely go through a young inexperienced pot smoker’s mind.
Whoops! How I typed Zimmerman for Martin is beyond me.
And I bet alcohol had nothing to do with that lol.
Yes, I think you are right on this. I grew up with a brother who regularly smoked pot and acted like a crackhead when high. He was NOT mellow and he was NOT nice when smoking and he smoked it all the time. It was one reason I left home young.
My parents did attempt to control him to no avail. Nothing worked to stop him. While in high school he was arrested over 20 times, and averaged 5-10 arrests a year after that for the first 10 years after high school. It wasn’t until I got out of college, that I found people who could smoke weed and just get mellow.
My brother did achieve one good thing. His behavior forever made me NOT want to do any kind of drugs and I never did.
I hope your brother is still alive.
The mellow pot thing is very common, especially among the middle class types, but pot is a real drug, and it did not come from the middle class, it came from where it still is common, and is still the dominate drug, the violent black and Hispanic underclass.
I have no idea what you are talking about. I am a middle class “strait”. I never even saw pot until my mid 20s. None of the “straits” I was around EVER smoked pot.
When I did begin to see people use pot, they were lethargic and barely sentient and usually went to sleep after a brief laughing fit. I have never understood the attraction to pot. It doesn’t make any sense to me.
What is that tattoo of?
I should have put quotes around “straight”.
I meant what passes for “straight” in the drug world, the guys who want their pot for their little, sweet, Sean Penn stoner, middle class, life, but who want to remain ignorant of the true pot and drug world in which they are the punks of.
No my brother died 5 years ago. He was never able to let go. At age 45, he looked 65. Beer and Pot were his drugs of choice but he did a little of everything at one time or another. He was never a strung out junkie, but in the end, he had cirosis of the liver, along with Hep B & C, gastritisus, and his skin was as yellow as a banana in the hospital.
That is a tough story, but I know what you are talking about.
What is that tattoo of?
From This: Saint Trayvon had several tattoos. The one on the left above was on his wrist and was his mother's name misspelled. The one on the right above was on his upper right arm. I'm not sure what it is or represents ... your guess is as good as mine. I don't have a better picture of the tattoo on his upper left arm than the one I originally posted above. Again, your guess is as good as mine.
I’m afraid he has the right to do that.
Wrong, grow up child.
Who are you talking to noob??
Whatever it was he picked up, it was the size of a dime. Hash-hish in a foil wrapping that he dropped from his pocket? Remember, there was a drug pipe found in his back pack at school.
According to news accounts, Trayvon had $40 on him when he died but, in the video, he appears to be scrounging for the money to pay for skittles and the watermelon drink. Is it possible Trayvon made some sort of financial transaction once he left the store?
The 911 recordings and the layout of the housing complex indicate Trayvon Martin intercepted and confronted George Zimmerman, and not the other way around. In other words, Trayvon Martin chose to confront George Zimmerman, when he could have much more easily have entered into the townhome where he was staying without George Zimmerman observing where Trayvon Martin had disappeared to. The fatal confrontation occurred only because Trayvon Martin chose to double back, intercept, and attack George Zimmerman. Trayvon Martin miscalculated when he failed to realize George Martin was armed until he had George Zimmerman on the ground and was beating him to death before getting shot by his armed victim. The jury will want to know why Trayvon Martin was motivated to forgo his opportunity to return to the townhome in peace and safety. Past criminal activity may provide such motivation and means.
People in the MSM are soooooooo afraid of being called 'racist' and losing their jobs that they're not outraged by any crime committed by a black person...