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There is no truce! Retread troll zot!
Vanity | Christopheros Geanakos

Posted on 05/19/2012 6:59:51 PM PDT by geanakos.chris

First of all, not a newb.. just a purge victim from the primaries.

JimRob posted almost a month ago about a so called truce between Romney supporters and the rest of the FReeper community. Since then, it appears the left has little job to do in driving a wedge into the right wing, we are doing it still ourselves.

Were is this truce? How come all I see on here is Alinsky tactics of divide and conquer? Today there was a post about Evil Mittie and him fundraising with morning after pill distributors. And the "true blue conservatives" pounce, little do they know that this pill manufacturer is one of the largest generic pill manufactuyrers in the world.. who produce all kind of medicine, even Augmentin, Azithromycin and Cipro, common anti-biotics..

This so called truce makes me sick. Can't wait to read the next half-baked anti-Romney article and the zealot FReepers who will eat up its every word because it furthers the narrative of Romney that THEY want him to fit into.

I'm not upset that people have beliefs that won't "allow" them to vote for Romney.. but what really irritates me is this active campaigning against people who would support Romney.. what game are you trying to pull? To deliver us into 4 more years of Obama servitude, for what purpose?? It strengthens conservatives? Talk about a phyyric victory. If you don't support Romney fine, but we are all anti-Obama here.. lets stay on focus.


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To: geanakos.chris
What is this "phyyric (sic) victory" of which you speak?
Oh, never mind. I guess you aren't here any more.
201 posted on 05/20/2012 6:39:06 AM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: The Black Knight

>>Yes, unless you want a continuous advance of leftward movement throughout the entire Republican Party<<

Maybe the answer is that some of us don’t really care about the Republican party. We love America.


202 posted on 05/20/2012 6:42:01 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: geanakos.chris
I'm not upset that people have beliefs that won't "allow" them to vote for Romney.

Gee, that's awful nice of you. Any other principles I have to check at the door before I'm 'allowed' to support real conservatives?

203 posted on 05/20/2012 6:42:20 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Obama vs. Romney: Zero x Zero = Zero.)
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To: Dudoight; Politicalmom

If the incumbent gets 4 more years, kiss the America we once knew good bye forever. If you are willing to contribute to that, go ahead. At least with the alternative we can stall our Nation’s demise for a while.

Woefully mistaken. Romney shares the same agenda as Obama (nationalize healthcare, advance homosexuality, regulate self defense, grow government, etc, etc, etc). With Romney at the wheel, we get there faster as the republican congress will be "compliant" for sake of "party unity". Obama is a mistake; Romney is a bigger mistake. At least Obama is a known combatant we are all prepared and, in fact, eager to dig our heals against.


204 posted on 05/20/2012 6:42:38 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: GeronL
"every time a FReeper posts a negative article/comment about the Mittens."

Actually, that was more about the absurdity of a poster who almost assuredly has taken Teva generics and has some of them in his medicine cabinet right now, as do his follow-on groupies.

It would be like some urban Libtard screaming about gun control on DU, complaining a Dem candidate went to an NRA "Golden Bullseye" dinner; only for said urban Libtard to pass by his gun cabinet on the way to bed, mentally noting low stock on Barnes VOR-TX.

205 posted on 05/20/2012 6:44:12 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: galloway15
"There actually seem to be people like this who would really allow the country to come down around them in ruins rather then compromise their principles"

Yeah. What could be wrong about that?


206 posted on 05/20/2012 6:44:39 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: Trod Upon
There is NO NOMINEE until the Convention.

Sooooooo many things can happen between now and then only a fool gets into pretending that his boy is going to get the nomination.

207 posted on 05/20/2012 6:44:55 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: netmilsmom
Thats Great, if you don't mind me asking how old are your girls?

My girls are

Tamara-5 Years old

Layla-3 years old

and Fatima is 6 months old

208 posted on 05/20/2012 6:47:57 AM PDT by KC_Lion (I am finished with listening to empty promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
I hope you took the correct Conservative position back during the dark days when the GOP-e decided they wanted Priebus as their chairman.

Recall how they kept voting until their boy won?

That's a Democrat trick ~ pure RINO.

Priebus was put there to make sure Romney got the nomination.

209 posted on 05/20/2012 6:49:10 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: The Black Knight

Question is. . .are you staying home on election day?


210 posted on 05/20/2012 6:51:36 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: crz
Another riot in Detroit would be a mixed blessing or something.

Do you have a lot of confidence in them being able to pull it off?

211 posted on 05/20/2012 7:01:00 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: so_real

You make a very good point in that Romney is not conservative enough. But I think its important to let the liberal left know that O’s agenda is totally unacceptable to the extent that the nation throws him out of the bus.

I think if enough Tparty type conservatives are in the congress, Romney wont be able to do what you predict, even if he dared. A lot of lifelong GOP congress persons are at risk of losing to the genuine conservative movement. They are the ones who propose legislation...besides Romney is so without passion, he wont have the gumption to force the alleged ‘agenda’ you claim he has.


212 posted on 05/20/2012 7:02:17 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: South40

You’re welcome.


213 posted on 05/20/2012 7:03:58 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: darkwing104

Nice to see you. Thanks for the backup.


214 posted on 05/20/2012 7:05:15 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: The Black Knight

What do you not understand. Romney is a shifter, I may not like his prior stances, but he’s movable. And I intend to get out there and vote for every truly conservative candidate headed for Congress. Once we get the establishment RINO’s out of Congress, it won’t matter what Romney wants...however we will also have REMOVED the islamofascist commie out the White House whose intention is to totally destroy the US as we know it. Do you want to spend another four years with a man sitting in our White House with a veto pen? If you do, our Conservatives we put in Congress are going to have an uphill battle trying to dig us out of this quagmire.

Now you can sit on your couch on top of your high horse, and assure we lose this battle. Or you can help us win it. Your choice.


215 posted on 05/20/2012 7:06:51 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: StAnDeliver
Actually, that was more about the absurdity of a poster who almost assuredly has taken Teva generics and has some of them in his medicine cabinet right now,

Wanna bet?

216 posted on 05/20/2012 7:06:54 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism: Leave your principles by the door. You won't be needing them any more.)
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To: EternalVigilance; BornToBeAmerican
Let's say we have this professional nanny, and almost all the chillun she takes care of over the years go on to enroll in the best colleges in the country, with the best grades, and are all health and smiles to shame a Mormon bishop.

However, every 6 months she goes out lurking until she finds an unprotected new born and she creeps into the house and kills it.

We'd still give her a gurney ride no matter how much good she'd done!

217 posted on 05/20/2012 7:10:44 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: KantianBurke

You paint a picture in absolute terms and nothing works that way. It’s all a matter of varying degrees of probability.

I do not care for Romney and if it was MY choice to pick our nominee I would have chosen Gingrich (I voted for him) based purely on his intelligence and great strength in presenting his views not to mention his forceful and confident style.

I lost and as much as I wanted my guy to win I also realized there maybe no future time to try again if we don’t at least make the first step to stop the bleeding. I find it truly ludicrous that people would put Romney in the same category as Obama. In fact I would find it ludicrous to assume ANYONE currently in the picture is even close to being as awful as Obama and that would include any Democrats, even (gag)Harry Reid.


218 posted on 05/20/2012 7:12:06 AM PDT by galloway15
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To: central_va

The cracks are already showing in this uber-RINO as he begins prematurely waffling on important issues.

He won’t need our “help” in defeating him. Who wants a waffle on our national plate? He’s actually a much bigger unknown than Obama at this point in the game last time.


219 posted on 05/20/2012 7:14:26 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: Politicalmom

you are ab obama supporter....... be careful where you barf and don’t make a mess


220 posted on 05/20/2012 7:16:26 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: The Black Knight
"People like YOU told us to hold our nose and vote for Dole. Then, people like YOU told us to hold our nose and vote for McCain."

In what parallel universe did these two actually win and do mean things to you?

221 posted on 05/20/2012 7:18:58 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: muawiyah

These folks are beyond logic and reason.

Which is where Romney Republicanism inevitably leads.


222 posted on 05/20/2012 7:19:54 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism: Leave your principles by the door. You won't be needing them any more.)
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To: EternalVigilance
"Wanna bet?"

Hey, you're running for President. I'm sure you just heal yourself...

223 posted on 05/20/2012 7:29:02 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: EternalVigilance
If you take a good long look at Romney's showing in elections and primaries over the years, he's a 20 percenter ~ and only by manipulating the rules to keep down the vote does he ever float above that (SEE: Virginia Primary 2012 as an example).

The general public sees that in a candidate and recoils.

We still need a candidate who can draw in the party base AND attract Democrats from specific factions if we are going to win.

Otherwise, this guy has fundamentals that are simply too negative to create any interest in having him as President.

224 posted on 05/20/2012 7:31:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RowdyFFC

Yours was the most persuasive post I’ve read on FR. Until the final paragraph. Then you became insulting, just as the leftists do. You blew away the good you might have done.


225 posted on 05/20/2012 7:38:25 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: StAnDeliver

Your contempt is noted.


226 posted on 05/20/2012 8:00:58 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism: Leave your principles by the door. You won't be needing them any more.)
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To: RowdyFFC
What do you not understand. Romney is a shifter, I may not like his prior stances, but he’s movable.

Romney is a liar who has governed from the left and who now claims to be on the right.

With Obama there is no chance that he will govern on the right. For example there is a 100% chance that Obama will continue to support the slaughter of the unborn. With Romney, the lying shifty "shifter" who is known to shift, there is some chance, albeit small chance, that he will govern on the right as he claims.

Come election day I will considered that.

But at this point in time I can not support Romney.

227 posted on 05/20/2012 8:05:38 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

I hear ya.

But what evidence is there that this shifty person truly will be beneficial in any way to further Conservatism in America? I see none. I see evidence to the contrary.

Will vote my conscience this time with no hesitation or regret.


228 posted on 05/20/2012 8:14:28 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: muawiyah

“Do you have a lot of confidence in them being able to pull it off?”

Pull what off? Riots in Detroit? Heck man its been going on for years now-since the liberal socialists have run that city in fact. There are areas there that the cops dont even bother to respond to murders now.

Take a long look at the elections in Europe. Two more socialists governments have been put into power-one being out and out NAZI. We re-elect Obama and this government will cease to exist. He will become the dictator we all claim is now, only he will do so out in the open.


229 posted on 05/20/2012 8:24:30 AM PDT by crz
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To: BornToBeAmerican
Where is your logic? This is leftist marxism. You blame the company making the pill, not those making the mistakes (having unprotected sex)

So the drug dealer is innocent? Its only the drug user that is to blame?

230 posted on 05/20/2012 8:26:43 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (Write In Sarah Palin)
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To: Jim Robinson
Look, if you don’t like FR, just stay the hell away. And I’d advise you to quit trying to hack into other people’s accounts. That’s illegal activity and you’re leaving an IP trail with failed hacking attempts a mile long.

I've been wondering if some of these hacking attempts have been successful in the case of dormant accounts. Any way to verify this? Of course if the account holder gives permission to access the account to a like-minded zotee, I guess there's not much to be done.

231 posted on 05/20/2012 8:28:28 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (The epitome of stupidity is a member of a proven racist sect running against a black man.)
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To: tsowellfan
Everything would be fine and dandy except that Romney isn’t a conservative.

That's true! He is not a conservative. And he won the nomination without needing us to win it.

This is the part I don't understand. Surely all Romney's support didn't come from Democrats in open primary states. Are there really that many people in the Republican Party who are Romneyite liberals?

Who are they? Where are they coming from? What do we do about them?

232 posted on 05/20/2012 8:44:53 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Brings to mind Butch and Sundance looking over their shoulders at the posse following.


233 posted on 05/20/2012 8:51:03 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: donna
Mitt and the RINOs have run up against a line that cannot be crossed. That line is traditional values and Christian beliefs along with a basic belief in small government.

Exactly.

When they would stand in the way of the unalienable Right to Life, that is bad enough, but to demand I support them in that crosses a line which I cannot cross.

234 posted on 05/20/2012 8:51:15 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: geanakos.chris
JimRob posted almost a month ago about a so called truce... Since then, it appears the left has little job to do in driving a wedge into the right wing, we are doing it still ourselves.



235 posted on 05/20/2012 8:52:59 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

The majority of Republicans are ‘moderates’ (that’s a liberal that won’t admit it). Numerically, RINOs are actually conservatives.

This is especially true of Republicans in elective office. Other people’s money is just too great a temptation to resist.

Bottom line: You can’t cheat an honest electorate.


236 posted on 05/20/2012 8:55:42 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto
Numerically, RINOs are actually conservatives.

Expound please. Is not computing this beautiful May Sunday noontime.
237 posted on 05/20/2012 9:00:30 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: geanakos.chris

Truce means everybody can have their opinion about this.

Go ahead and vote for Myth, and you won’t get ousted for that view.

Go ahead and point out Myth’s untrustworthiness, and say you won’t vote for him — that’s your right to an opinion.

There’s room at FR for both. That’s what the truce is.


238 posted on 05/20/2012 9:00:50 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: VictoryGal

But check all insults at the door before visiting FR.


239 posted on 05/20/2012 9:03:27 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

There are more ‘moderates’ and liberals in the Republican Party than there are conservatives, and always has been. Conservatives are outsiders. The Establishment may be forced to throw them a bone now and then, but conservatives are still outsiders.


240 posted on 05/20/2012 9:09:48 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Resettozero

> But check all insults at the door before visiting FR.

Absolutely. Defend your opinion, use facts (unlike libs), but attacking your fellow Conservatives on FR is not right.


241 posted on 05/20/2012 9:11:43 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: jjotto
There are more ‘moderates’ and liberals in the Republican Party than there are conservatives, and always has been. Conservatives are outsiders. The Establishment may be forced to throw them a bone now and then, but conservatives are still outsiders.

So mathematically the Mittster doesn't need the Conservative vote to win. Good strategy, I plan on doing my part.

242 posted on 05/20/2012 9:11:54 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

hehe

That’s why they have to fool conservatives; they don’t need them in the selection process but they do need them to win in November. They count on conservatives suffering Stockholm Syndrome.


243 posted on 05/20/2012 9:28:22 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

> There are more ‘moderates’ and liberals in the Republican Party than there are conservatives, and always has been.

Really? I wish you would do what your tagline says and look it up.

I did.

Even lib pollsters at Gallup know that the largest self-identifying political group in the US — and that includes Dims and Independents.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/152021/conservatives-remain-largest-ideological-group.aspx

And if you scroll down, you’ll see a whopping 71% of Republicans identify themselves as Conservatives, contrast with 23% moderate and 4% (confused or mentally deficient) liberal.

A more conservative (accurate) poll would probably find higher numbers for our side.

(that’s how it’s done FRiends — disagreeing with facts, no insults)


244 posted on 05/20/2012 9:31:59 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: VictoryGal

I understand the MSM has convinced people that polls somehow constitute facts. What people tell others they believe and how people actually behave are frequently different.


245 posted on 05/20/2012 9:34:39 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: VictoryGal

More of an indication that conservatism has been defined down.


246 posted on 05/20/2012 9:35:28 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator; jjotto

Okay, I’ll bite — what’s the evidence that conservatives don’t constitute a plurality in the US and a whopping majority in the GOP?

Because all the data I’m looking at say that WE surround THEM.


247 posted on 05/20/2012 9:40:22 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: RaisingCain

“.....IOW, we will not be better off with Mitt Romney. And the GOP, as per usual, will not resist Romney the same way they would resist Obama.....”
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You do know that a PRESIDENT Romney will not be producing the legislation in 2013 don’t you? The Tea Party factions currently in the House have not, for the most part, been ones to toe the line for the GOPe. If we work hard to send them reinforcements they will be even MORE of a force to contend with. And VERY good things are beginning to develop in the various US Senate races—Tea Party candidates are winning over RINOs & GOPe types. There is a good possibility that, if we continue to work hard, come 2013 the Republican majority in the Senate will be controlled by conservatives.

My point is that it is not the 2013 GOP controlled Congress that will need to RESIST Romney (although they will have to IGNORE any stupid, short-sighted legislative proposals he may send forth). It will be instead the Presidency that could resist this new conservative Republican controlled Congress. And guess what?—Romney will not be vetoing Republican legislation; a 2nd term lame-duck Obama would—in addition to doing much, much more to destroy the country.


248 posted on 05/20/2012 9:57:38 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: geanakos.chris

Ok, let me get this correct. You write a post about how those of us who do not support Romney are picking on you because you do support that liberal. Then you spend part of the post telling us to be nice to you while you spend a paragraph attacking us.
Ok, here is the deal, you want to vote for that liberal Romney be my guest, I will not ever again support another liberal - R or D.


249 posted on 05/20/2012 9:58:42 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: katiedidit1

“Facts do not favor Romney as far as his record as a conservative goes. Does the GOP-E think we are dumb, deaf and blind? The “truce” does not mean freepers have to shut up and walk in lock step with Romney.”

For me, I have distilled it down to:

God would not vote for Romney, so I won’t, either.


250 posted on 05/20/2012 10:01:33 AM PDT by Marcella (Romney: for abortion, homosexuality, gay adoption of children - No to Romney)
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