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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 20 May 2012
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 20 May 2012 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 05/20/2012 5:27:41 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: galloway15

Please don’t ask diogenesis to tell us anything. He will.

Over and over again.


101 posted on 05/20/2012 9:07:19 AM PDT by altura
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To: SW6906

“only one of two men are going to be the next President: Obama or Romney. There is no one else who can possibly win.”

This is true. These are historic events and this is a time for choosing. Those who choose neither Romney or Obama stand for nothing.


102 posted on 05/20/2012 9:11:46 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: animal172
Wonder how many of the tourists visiting the sites hava any idea he was a Republican?

Probably about as many who know George Wallace, Lestor Maddox and Bull Conner were democrats.

103 posted on 05/20/2012 9:19:16 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: SW6906

Hello SW6906

Now, why would you assume, I was “pissing in the wind” should I chose to vote for someone other than the Democrat / Republican brand.

Can you grantee that under the Republican brand the Federal G’ment will get smaller? If not, I see you as being one who prefers to be the frog in the pot that is SLOWLY boiled instead of getting it over with


104 posted on 05/20/2012 9:20:27 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: Miss Marple

You are 100% correct. Kristol is a backstabbing little witch. There I said it. (I think you will like by tagline.)


105 posted on 05/20/2012 9:25:42 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: Chgogal

Charles Krauthammer has had some wonderful moments lately.

He was pro-Romney, but that’s all over. I really like him lately.


106 posted on 05/20/2012 9:29:39 AM PDT by altura
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To: altura

107 posted on 05/20/2012 9:30:37 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Diogenesis
So now people who are reluctantly going to vote for Romney because Obama is far, far worse are Romneybots?

Way to win friends and influence people, my FRiend!


108 posted on 05/20/2012 9:36:47 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: CDB
What a hilarious tale about Gerald the cat, and JoAnn the dog

I got Gerald from the SPCA as we'd just lost a cat for reasons unknown. We were sad but we keep four cats at all times cause you don't want just one cat is how we figure.

He was a kitten, of course, adorable. I figure how hard can it be, a kitten? Just put a couple extra tidbits in the communal bowl, right?

It's like the ransom of Red Chief. Gerald does not see the world as we expected. It's a Gerald world and the pursuit of food is primary. I got me a squirt bottle just for Gerald.

Our calico, she despises Gerald and gets the vapors whenever he walks by. All she needs is a lace hankie for her howling. She also likes to slap the dog when she walks by, I don't know why. But go with me, the dog weighs about 90 pounds, Lily, about 10.

As for Gerald, well he's just fine with the dog. He comes up and eats her food with her. For the longest time I was batting him away cause, well come on, the dog's never been all that fond of sharing her food with the cats!

But she lets Gerald eat with her, an amazing thing. BUT, JoAnn will share Gerald's puddle of milk and Friskies should she come upon, them's the rules.

I wrap food items in aluminum foil from time to time, a biscuit, piece of cornbread. We get up from nap and there's little tiny bits of alumunim foil from one end of house to other, some crumbs in between.

Every time you pick him up his belly is as big as a basketball and the LITTER PANS! Dear Lord, in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost....yesterday I went to BJ's and bought EIGHTY FOUR Pounds of litter!

As much increase in food is as much increase of litter...makes sense.

He loves to be held and purrs your ear off if you pick him up. He looks exactly like Sylvester the Cat.

I tell husband, maybe we're too old for Gerald. Perish the thought.

Besides, we called the SPCA, how much to take him back?

$100,000 they told us.

Heh.

109 posted on 05/20/2012 9:37:03 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Alas Babylon!; bray
thank you, for the thread and the ping(s).
and your (informed, not mindless) essays, Bray. :-D

110 posted on 05/20/2012 9:37:38 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA. DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; different flie$". :^)
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To: altura

Agreed. But I will not forget how he was so supportive of Obama when ALL indications were that Obama was hard left. Krauthammer’s inability to warn America through his commentary about the true Obama will always be a black stain on his reputation. Sorry about being so harsh, but we are indebt by another $5 Trilion, we have been down graded, unemployment is above 8%, Obamacare is hanging over our heads, Medicare has been defunded by $500 Billion, etc.


111 posted on 05/20/2012 9:38:47 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: galloway15
galloway15:
"OK, so tell us what are the “bad” things Romney did and how would you as a CEO done it differently."
"

I don't do requests but ..
RomneyCARE - I would have not imposed socialized medicine
but in its stead increased competition between
insurance companies including those ins. companies out of state,
and increased competition between hospitals and Walmart and nurses
by allowing alternative treatment of minor problems.

RomneyMarriage - Would have followed the Constitution
which states (in English):
"The power of suspending the laws, or (suspending) the execution of the laws,
ought never to be exercised but by the legislature..."

Romney's Big Dig Coverup - Would have imposed
accountability instead of taking campaign contributions.

Romney's Increase in Taxes (called 'Fees') - Is this obvious or what?

Romney's Imposing DNC judges - Is this obvious or what?

Romney's Bringing in Illegal Aliens to Change the Language of some cities in Massachusetts.
A Governor's first allegiance SHOULD have been to the people.

Etc. Etc.

112 posted on 05/20/2012 9:42:05 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Chgogal

Could not agree more, and I am a long-time Bush supporter and am now backing Romney, since Perry crashed.

A LOT of the people who are pundits, columnists, political consultants etc. are NOT HELPING. They are making people angrier in their efforts to prove that they are the only ones who are right. They mock those who don’t agree with them on Twitter.

A little humility would be in order for all of these people, and I would greatly appreciate it if they would quit analyzing every dang thing that is said by Romney, his staff, the RNC, etc. They should go analyze Obama, which many have failed to do.


113 posted on 05/20/2012 9:44:16 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Diogenesis

There are other threads for this.

Go there.


114 posted on 05/20/2012 9:44:54 AM PDT by altura
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To: Diogenesis

Changing Romneycare to allow for portability across state lines would have required a change in FEDERAL laws, which the governor of Massachusetts really has no control over.

As far as “bringing in illegal aliens,” do you have receipts for the charter buses that transported them from El Paso, or what?


115 posted on 05/20/2012 9:48:21 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: DanZ; bray; altura; Miss Marple; Fishtalk; rodguy911; Diogenesis

DanZ, Bray is NOT pissed off because someone is attacking Romney.

What is pissing him off is the CONSTANT dumping of anti-Romney material we’ve all seen before, and no doubt will keep seeing until the election, and perhaps long after. We’d like this thread to be a place of serious discussion and thoughful debate among friends... Is that so wrong?

Certain threads on Free Republic and certain FReepers are at each other’s throats; wanting people banned and zotted for merely disagreeing with them. Can’t we please avoid that here?

I have seen this behavior directed at supporters of EVERY Republican candidate over the past year. Because of this stupid infighting, we’ve lost all the conservative candidates, and some chose not to run (Sarah Palin). most of us on this thread strongly supported every other candidate EXCEPT Romney. In fact, I don’t think I ever met an original Romneybot, that is, someone whose been for Romney since the beginning.

Some long time ago we on this thread agreed not to get into the antagonizing of other people over their candidates, and it worked very well. No one spammed against other candidates here even though it was happening constantly on about every other thread.

We—ok, I, simply speaking for myself (chime in if any reader agrees with me)—do not want that here. I acknowledge I have no power to enforce it, except to ask people kindly not to do so.

Free Republic has lost a number of good people over the past year due to this mean-spirited infighting. I’m deeply saddened by this. I’m not going to argue in favor of Romney, but if you don’t see that the game is over I don’t know what else to say. I know I will vote AGAINST Barrack Hussein Obama come November.


116 posted on 05/20/2012 9:56:37 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Miss Marple

No Miss M....I didn’t know all that you wrote.

But I must thank you.

Because there is no discernible reason why Bill Kristol should be helping create a ticket that would make it harder for Repubs to beat.

I’ve been furious ever since.

Will keep a closer eye on him.


117 posted on 05/20/2012 9:58:47 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: altura
altura (RomneyBOT):
"There are other threads for this.
Go there."

Not very nice, are you.
I posted about the Sunday FOX News, and in response you
attacked me with ad hominems.

Then, in response, only defended myself
against the imperious, pejorative, TYPICAL RomneyBOT
nasty attacks made by your troop of impetuous unconservative proStatism capuchins.

Since your post indicates that you
are a lemming and hate conservative principles
(post #114) why don't YOU consider going back to DU?


118 posted on 05/20/2012 10:00:11 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: bray

excellent as always


119 posted on 05/20/2012 10:00:50 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Fishtalk

I researched all of that back in the summer of 2001. I have never forgotten it, because I consider him a mole in the GOP. Maybe not working for the DNC, but working for his interests as opposed to those of our country.


120 posted on 05/20/2012 10:05:06 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple

Agreed. Humility would go a long way. Thankfully I don’t twitter. I cannot imagine being insulted live by these pundits. ; )

I still have not witnessed an indepth analysis of Obama’s economic policies and how they compare to Reagan’s. I still have to see an indepth comparison of Reagan’s recession versus Obama’s.

NADA from these great mensa pundits! : )


121 posted on 05/20/2012 10:08:13 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
We—ok, I, simply speaking for myself (chime in if any reader agrees with me)—do not want that here

I do not contribute much more than a comment here and there, because mostly what needs to be said is already said when I log on, however, in this, I agree 100%.

122 posted on 05/20/2012 10:09:29 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Fishtalk

Thanks so much for the laughs about Gerald!


123 posted on 05/20/2012 10:14:32 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: Diogenesis

When did I say I was a nice person?

You’ve been asked to leave as you are a disruptor to this thread.

I don’t go where I am not wanted.

Wish you wouldn’t.


124 posted on 05/20/2012 10:23:15 AM PDT by altura
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To: altura

First, your falsely labeling a FReeper
as a ‘Disrupter’ attempts to make this thread nothing more
than a ROMNEY PIMP THREAD.

Second, as you proudly admit,
you are not nice.
Did you pull hair of the fallen children
with Willard Romney?

Were you a class bully, too?


125 posted on 05/20/2012 10:37:20 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Diogenesis

Thank you but you did not answer the question I asked.

Again, Romney’s strong suit is his successful past in the business world as seen by his experiences while head of Bain and also in his work with the Olympics.

The major issue today is the economy, jobs, the deficit. These are issues which call for a leader with heavy business experiences. We know what Romney has accomplished in this area and I am asking you what you would have done differently in running Bain and in dealing with the Olympics.

You do know that in MA he was saddled with a monstrous Dem advantage in both Houses, right? They could have over ridden him on anything. As for raising taxes? Ronald Reagan, who if he would return to us as he was in the 1980’s I would cheerfully sacrifice a few fingers of my left hand (I’m a righty), raised taxes and it’s right here on the FR.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2828224/posts

I know he also cut them and I know how the economy grew during the 80’s but strictly speaking Reagan signed the tax increases proposed by the Dems who held very strong majorities then and probably would have over ridden his veto and by doing so maybe stripped out the things they offered Reagan which he wanted, in order to get him to go along peacefully.


126 posted on 05/20/2012 10:50:08 AM PDT by galloway15
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To: galloway15

Thank you for bringing up the Olympics.
Did you know that Romney served in Vie..Olympics?

However, note:
Romney’s specialty is getting American taxpayers
to fund his schemes.

Olympic “bailout” —> US TAXPAYERS SCREWED

BIG DIG Coverup —> US TAXPAYERS SCREWED

RomneyCARE -———> US TAXPAYERS SCREWED

TARP Support ———> US TAXPAYERS SCREWED

See a pattern here?

Of course not. There is always an excuse, right?


127 posted on 05/20/2012 10:57:28 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Our DVR was full this AM, so we only caught the first minute of “Face the Nation.” However, that minute had the most astounding bit of opinion from Bob Schieffer: supposedly, the reason that the Nation’s credit rating was cut last year was that Boehner objected to raising the debt limit.


128 posted on 05/20/2012 10:58:52 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

************** THIS NEEDS TO GO VIRAL ***http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/05/20/its-party-time-your-official-celebrating-liberty-festival-update/*****************


129 posted on 05/20/2012 11:04:52 AM PDT by advertising guy ( Slo Joe Biden " I promise you the President has a big stick, but Michelle's is bigger ")
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To: altura; bray; Diogenesis

OK, my concern here is the sanity of the thread and keeping the rancor down. The best way to handle this is to not reply.

Diogenesis, I wish you would understand that this is not the place for fighting against Romney. No one here is a Romneybot. I am asking you, Altura and Bray, and any others, to stop arguing. I have no authority here to demand it, but I am asking.

Good day.


130 posted on 05/20/2012 11:05:21 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

To help clear up any possible miss interpretations of my point of view.
I would wager that most on this thread would consider the departure of Kay Baily Hutchison a good thing.
I see Mitt Romney as being to the LEFT of Key Baily and in the same / similar mode as the last President Bush. The two things President Bush did well was appoint two “Constitutional” disposition layers to the Supreme Court. The Jury is still out on how they will “grow”.
My preference is for a limited Constitutional form of G’ment with things like the Dept. of Education, as well as many other Federal agencies totally eliminated.

I see the unlimited g’ment as a cause for most of what ails the U.S. Unfortunately there are no signs from the Republican brand to change my mind.

Representative Ryan’s budget is one small hope. If in March of next year there is a majority Republican House and Senate as well as a President Romney - Will his version be implemented?

The other option - Democrat/Socialist is worse, but only because we get to arrive in Hell faster.


131 posted on 05/20/2012 11:07:08 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: Diogenesis

Ok, I get it. You will not answer my questions because the truth will not fit your narrative.

You do know you are acting exactly as a liberal would, don’t you?


132 posted on 05/20/2012 11:08:50 AM PDT by galloway15
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To: altura
But from two rooms away, he can hear me open the container that holds his sticks. I look up and there he is.

Talk about selective hearing. Years ago, the cartoon, "Far Side" did a hilarious "analysis" of a dog's selective hearing. A great metaphor for a Lib, who hears only what he wants to hear...

133 posted on 05/20/2012 11:11:19 AM PDT by CDB ("...the liberals' praise is a warning bell you must heed. Trust me on that." - Sarah Palin)
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To: Fishtalk

Thanks for the post re Gerald. Smiled through the whole post.


134 posted on 05/20/2012 11:26:21 AM PDT by CDB ("...the liberals' praise is a warning bell you must heed. Trust me on that." - Sarah Palin)
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To: galloway15

Listen, newbie, there was no question.

You made false statements to protect your Romney
who used IMPROPER EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY to impose gay marriage,
and who used campaign contributions to cover up
the improprieties of the BIG DIG,
and who used US taxpayer money to finance his
RomneyCARE (Romney ‘death panels’
a.k.a. socialized medicine).

Sentient adults do not fall for the BS from
Romney which has been shown to be ... BS.


135 posted on 05/20/2012 11:29:05 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: galloway15

Please stop.


136 posted on 05/20/2012 11:31:18 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: DanZ
Too true. But what ever choice do we have? At this time we should have had Sarah Palin wrapping it up, not Romney.

What happened? Why did she choose not to run? Is the conservative ideal candidate unobtainable? Why didn't we rally around ONE conservative?

Personally, I think we're all just screwed until after it falls ALL apart. Still, I will not allow Obama to get another term if I can possibly prevent it. My only thought now is to see him out.

137 posted on 05/20/2012 11:36:47 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Diogenesis

Please stop.


138 posted on 05/20/2012 11:37:12 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Diogenesis

LOL, newbie? Maybe so on this forum but trust me old buddy, as far as logical debate and useful dialogue you are a tower of emptiness compared to me. You appear to be one of those clowns who equate time on a forum with intellect. Really, how awfully silly is that?

Now go back and READ my post so you may actually see the questions which I have posed twice to you. This time answer them and try not to let your sense of self grandeur interfere with common sense


139 posted on 05/20/2012 11:37:49 AM PDT by galloway15
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To: galloway15

Digenesis is not a clown and you are not a n00b. Please stop.


140 posted on 05/20/2012 11:39:37 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: DanZ
"Can you grantee that under the Republican brand the Federal G’ment will get smaller? If not, I see you as being one who prefers to be the frog in the pot that is SLOWLY boiled instead of getting it over with"

No, I cannot guarantee it will get smaller. That is not what we are discussing. That is not the choice this election. The choice is Obama or Romney. Period. Yes, with Romney the pot gets to boiling slower, but I chose that - with the possibility that I can have a Congress and a public that will apply pressure to turn the heat down - over the alternative of most assuredly boiling to death. I don't want to give up and "get it over with". I am not going to oh so quietly give up on my country.

141 posted on 05/20/2012 11:43:53 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Diogenesis

Bless your heart.


142 posted on 05/20/2012 11:43:59 AM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: CDB

;)


143 posted on 05/20/2012 11:45:51 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Diogenesis; Jim Robinson
A Denial of Service attack is where hundreds of compromised PC's overload a server with requests; causing it to fail.

The same effect can be done by a MASS of humans, sitting at ONE computer each, overloading and overwhelming the abilities of other users to respond.

See it being tested now by Romneybots and TBM's. (yes; there is a overlapping of these terms. Probably in the high 90 percentages)

144 posted on 05/20/2012 11:54:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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Keep FR Running
Let's get to Yellow!

145 posted on 05/20/2012 11:56:00 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Elsie

What is a TBM?


146 posted on 05/20/2012 12:05:33 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: altura

Hey Durbin, if you are in such agreement with the president why didn’t you vote on his budget?? He has so many gifts and programs he barely has time to speak.


147 posted on 05/20/2012 12:09:39 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: caww

Amen to that, until we turn back to God we have no hope for the future.

Pray for America


148 posted on 05/20/2012 12:15:26 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I agree. I will simply scroll through his stuff and proceed with our usual Sunday thread. (Although I can see why less hardy souls give up.)


149 posted on 05/20/2012 12:24:21 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: lodi90
"Isn’t it odd there are “conservatives” who won’t support the GOP nominee against the marxist kenyan. It seems we are finally finding out who the real RINOs are."

You're close. I would call them CINOs. Conservative In Name Only. They call themselves conservative, but if you don't exactly agree with them in every single item they dream of, you are the enemy. They are an army of one, and they charge every windmill they see. They are no more effective than the wind they blow.

150 posted on 05/20/2012 1:18:59 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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