Skip to comments.Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 20 May 2012
Posted on 05/20/2012 5:27:41 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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I am commenting in response to my own post about Bill Kristol. I am suspicious he was paid by the Hillary people to write that article. As far out as that might sound, I do still believe this. Something weird about an alleged Conservative-Repub writing such a thing.
But there was one major point I forgot to mention. Kristol says in the article for illustration of Biden’s shortcomings his supposed “gaffe” last week on MTP about Gay marriage.
Now your mileage might vary, but I do not for one milli-second think that was any kind of gaffe, but an orchestration by the WH to get Obamer out there endorsing gay marriage in time for a big fundraiser at George Clooney’s. Biden followed the script is all.
BUT, if you’re trying to help Hillary’s campaign, well hey, assert Biden gaffed on the gay marriage thing, for illustration as to why he has to go, to be replaced, of course, by Hillary. An insider like Kristol should see right thru that acting job by Biden on MTP last week.
Now, Paul Ryan....he’s doing a good job this morning. And oh my, got to love Dick Turbin, no?
Anyway, Ryan, rightly, mentions that Obamer and congress has not passed a budget.
But in listening, I know what the Repubs are doing wrong. And for the same fee Kristol got from Hillary’s campaign, I will tell them what.
Ryan and the pubs need to bring all this DC crap down to the ordinary household level.
While Ryan mentioned the lack of a budget several times, come on, he needs to be louder and shriller. The senate voted against Obamer’s budget 99-0!
The pubs need to say, over and over, that all of us boobs out here in la-la land who have jobs know we MUST submit budgets for our jobs, we know our very households needs to have a budget, however informal.
It wouldn’t hurt if Mumbles McConnell or Tears Boehner would get out and about and mention this lack of a budget over and over.
Most importantly, so goes my argument, keep tying it to the lives of us mere mortals who carry this country on our backs.
I'm saying it again till I get on nerves. That was just the darn weirdest editorial...makes no sense at all. Somebody somewhere, and somebody not on our side, had to give Krystal some kind of impetus to write such a thing.
Cause yer right. Put Hillary on that ticket and the Dems pick up a lot of Hillary's former fans and maybe some precious Independents.
His reason for writing such a thing is so outta there....like "don't you want to win against a more formidible team?"
Come on! I'll win against a weak team and be quite content.
Please favor us with a little less disingenuity on this.
It is not about a "congress".
It is about the core of the man: Myth Romney.
Here from his own mouth:
"I'm very clear I think, to the people across the Commonwealth
my "R" didn't stand so much for Republican as it does for reform."
(Flip-flop artiste and author of RomneyCARE
Video, accessed 9/19/07)
"A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs
which must not be compromised to political expediency
or simply to swell its numbers."
-- President Ronald Reagan
So a one term GOP governor in the bluest of blue states ruined MA all by himself? Did the MA Supreme Court have any role? What about a state legislature that is now controlled overwhelmingly by the Dems--35-4 (1 vacancy) in the Senate and 127-33 in the House?
Thanks for the thread.
I’m tellin’ on myself here but I’m self-employed (and a very poor worker and worse boss I can tell you).
Not having a regular working routine, one sometimes gets mixed up on days.
Saturday morning I woke up sure that it was Sunday because I had to be at church at ten A.M. (for a funeral).
I came to this site looking for the Sunday Morning thread. It wasn’t here. I totally panicked thinking that you’d finally gotten tired of doing it.
I even put it in the search engine.
It was way too long before I realized it was Saturday.
So, you see, some of us still care a lot about this thread.
I got up late and missed it. Would love to see a report here. Fortunately, it’s re-broadcast a couple of times on FNN.
That reminds me of when some sportcaster asks a player what team would he rather play against.
Player always replies with the name of some formidable team, when he’s really thinking “I’d love to play the Little Sisters of the Poor.”
Heck, yes, we want a weak ticket for the dems and we sure have one.
Oddly enough, I like it when Fox News Channel supports the Republican candidate.
But that’s just me.
I grew up in Springfield and have lived in Illinois all my life. Illinois is a Red State if you throw out Cook County (Chicago). In the last Governors election, the Republican Candidate Bill Brady carried 100 of the 102 counties and still lost.
Unfortunately, in Central Illinois we’re seeing politicians trash their values to enhance their careers . Did you know Dick Durbin is from Springfield, and when he was a Congressman he supported an amendment to the Constitution to permanently overturn Roe vs. Wade. Of course now that he’s number 2 in the Senate it’s follow the party line and the hell with the constituents.
Also Ray Lahood, Republican Congressman for many years from Peoria is now Transportation Secretary and walking the Obama red line.
Have a wonderful trip. I always wanted to go to England... probably the only country in Europe I really want to go to.
It will be fun with your sister. Anything I did with my sister was always fun!
Who are you going to vote for, Obama? Romney and Obama are the only ones in the race and with your ranting, etc. you will not be able to change that. So I ask again, since you don't like Romney, are you an Obama supporter? In my opinion, anyone but Obama would be a godsend.
Please note that the 2008 financial collapse started when the Democrats took over the Congress in 2007. And also remember that President Bush had over 50 months of straight job growth and an unemployment rate well below 5.5. And that was after 9/11. So remember again, the economy started to tank when the Democrats took over Congress. Period.
Ryan would be a great VP pick. I really like him and he’s great on the economy and on explaining it.
The trade off is we’d lose him in Congress.
I think you’re wrong about women. I honestly think most women prefer a man for high office. they may not admit it but I really think they do.
Like me. I belong to the Episcopal Church, have for over 30 years (same church) ... They permit women priests but most of the women I know prefer a man priest... just because we do! (hah)
I guess LaHood and Durbin just evolved. Sad that one county can determine the path a state takes. This was my second visit, the first being Carbondale, and enjoyed myself. Springfield was really neat. Always something going on in the downtown area. Lots and lots of folks down there with their families having a grand old time.
Careful altura, you are dangerously stepping on ground that says men have value. Not PC in America. Not promoting your victimhood.
Don’t waste your time, sunshine. Dio is one of those people who forms an opinion and then worships it.
His opinion is God to him, and I find him a total downer, very annoying and wrong about most things.
“Oddly enough, I like it when Fox News Channel supports the Republican candidate.”
Isn’t it odd there are “conservatives” who won’t support the GOP nominee against the marxist kenyan. It seems we are finally finding out who the real RINOs are.
Here they are:
The Massachusetts Republican Party died last Tuesday.
The cause of death: failed leadership.
The party is survived by a few leftover legislators
and a handful of county officials and grassroots activists
who have been ignored for years.
Services will be public and a mass exodus of taxpayers will follow.
In lieu of flowers, send messages to Republican voters
warning them about a certain presidential candidate named Romney.
- Boston Herald, 11/12/2006
"In 2006, while Romney was chairman of the National Republican
Governors Association - a group dedicated to electing more
Republican governors - his own hand-picked Republican successor
as governor lost badly to the Democrat, despite the fact that Republicans
have held the governorship in Massachusetts since 1990. Romney largely
ignored the Massachusetts elections and spent most of the time
during the campaign out of state building his presidential campaign.
He came back and publicly campaigned for the Republican candidate
the day before the general election!
Locally, this is a rebuke to Mitt Romney and checking out within six months
after being elected and having accomplished almost nothing,
[Jim] Rappaport [former chairman of the state Republican Party]."
- Boston Globe, 11/8/2006
"Governor Mitt Romney, who touts his conservative credentials to out-of-state Republicans,
has passed over GOP lawyers for three-quarters of the 36 judicial vacancies he has faced,
instead tapping registered Democrats or independents -- including two gay lawyers who
have supported expanded same-sex rights, a Globe review of the nominations has found.
Of the 36 people Romney named to be judges or clerk magistrates, 23 are either registered Democrats
or unenrolled voters who have made multiple contributions to Democratic politicians
or who voted in Democratic primaries, state and local records show.
In all, he has nominated nine registered Republicans, 13 unenrolled voters,
and 14 registered Democrats."
- Boston Globe 7/25/2005
Romney Rewards one of the State's Leading Anti-Marriage Attorneys by Making him a Judge
Romney told the U.S. Senate on June 22, 2004, that the "real threat to the States is not the
constitutional amendment process, in which the states participate,
but activist judges who disregard the law and redefine marriage . . ."
Romney sounds tough but yet he had no qualms advancing the legal career of one
of the leading anti-marriage attorneys. He nominated Stephen Abany to a District Court.
Abany has been a key player in the Massachusetts Lesbian and Gay Bar Association which,
in its own words, is "dedicated to ensuring that the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court decision
on marriage equality is upheld, and that any anti-gay amendment or legislation is defeated."
- U.S. Senate testimony by Gov. Mitt Romney, 6/22/2004 P>
"Romney announces he won't fill judicial vacancies before term ends
Despite his rhetoric about judicial activism, Romney announced that
he won't fill all the remaining vacancies during his term - but instead
leave them for his liberal Democrat successor!
Governor Mitt Romney pledged yesterday not to make a flurry of lame-duck
judicial appointments in the final days of his administration . . . David Yas,
editor of Lawyers Weekly, said Romney is "bucking tradition" by resisting the urge to
fill all remaining judgeships. "It is a tradition for governors to use that power to appoint judges
aggressively in the waning moments of their administration," Yas said.
He added that Romney has been criticized for failing to make judicial appointments.
"The legal community has consistently criticized him for not filling open seats quickly enough
and being a little too painstaking in the process and being dismissive of the input of the
Judicial Nominating Commission," Yas said.
- Boston Globe 11/2/2006
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
I love men and I don’t care who knows it.
And women are certainly not victims unless they are in the mood to use ‘victimhood’ for some purpose.
So you are telling us something we don’t already know about Romneycrat? We probably know more about him then you do, but he won the primary by unsavory means and has the Country Club victory. Are we happy? No, but do we have a choice? Who do you suggest we vote for?
What a hilarious tale about Gerald the cat, and JoAnn the dog. Does JoAnn also have high cheekbones, like all "Indians" (except Elizabeth Warren) do?
Quit spamming the thread with your long boring picture laden posts. We have seen them a thousand times and we just have to scroll through them. Now answer the question, who will you vote for in the General when it is Romney and Obama and no more spam.
Not to turn this into a doggy/kitty thread (although that is not horrible) but the dear old lab, Bubba, simply cannot hear me when I call him over to have his ears doctored or for some like purpose.
But from two rooms away, he can hear me open the container that holds his sticks. I look up and there he is.
Thanks for thread AB. “I’ll Have Another” is on track to Triple Crown. Bodemeister is his only competition. Here’s hoping Bambi gets nipped at the wire even tho we can’t root for YKW (you know who) on here.
Thanks, bray. He wouldn’t listen to me but he might listen to you.
This is the Sunday morning talk show thread. Dio spews that propaganda on ten other threads a day. It’s totally canned and repetitive.
I wish he’d take it there and leave this thread in peace.
“But from two rooms away, he can hear me open the container that holds his sticks. I look up and there he is.”
That’s because he is just like most two legged critters called children. They both have selective hearing.
Boy you aren’t PC, loving men is almost a jailable offense to the femihags. You deserted your sisterhood just like Palin. Next thing your going to say is your not for “reproductive rights” like 100% of women are for.
Doncha know you have to be an Affirmative Action group or you are the enemy.
It drives my wife crazy when I walk in on a murder mystery, spot the successful White guy and say its him!
bray, I reported factually re: Fox News (post #19)
and then corrected facts (post #24) and in response
was attacked by you and your RomneyBOTs with
ad hominems and disingenuity.
First, Reporting facts is not ‘spamming’ to my knowledge.
Second, it is too bad that RomneyBOTs such as you,
remain on your KNEES to a man whom you know is
untruthful and who has indelible unconservative
PAST ACTIONS, and who is not even the candidate yet,
and you have done this before several states
have even voted. Have you no shame?
Dog treat containers are made of special materials that dogs can hear very well. And not just a noise; the miracle material also dispenses the smell of bacon.
I am noticing he won’t answer the question. Is he going to not vote and give Ocommie half a vote or vote for Ocommie, that is his only alternatives to Romney.
We fought against him but our votes were divided between too many Conservatives to win. We have to vote Romney and get some help in the House to hold his feet to the fire.
What do you mean "we"....white man?
It’s over DG, he is the candidate so put the pipe down and face reality. You are the only person in America that doesn’t realize it. Shame has nothing to do with waking up and facing reality.
So take your little hatefest away and open your eyes to the fact that he will be the nominee after all those states vote for him just like they all are.
Now answer the question, who are you going to vote for Romney or Obama???
6. Italy Earthquake damaged historical sites. Photo’s below.
And now look, he’s a nasty little snitch, pinging all his friends from the asylum to come over and try to ruin this thread.
I am really looking forward to the re-run of Paul Ryan on Fox News today.
Like there isn’t a Greece economic thread that doesn’t need to be educated on the evils of Romney.
There is a vein of smug contrarianism here. There is nothing you can do to change those opinions. It is almost like debating an obama voter on the economy.
Romney now has an 87% approval rating with GOP voters. So it is clear that nearly everyone is on board ABO train. I have no doubt he will govern like a Maine Senator but I will happily go to the polls in FL to vote the marxist kenyan out of the WH.
That’s great - we’ll look forward to it!
BTW - best of luck in your political endeavors - our country really needs more like you.
his own hand-picked Republican successor as governor lost badly to the Democrat, despite the fact that Republicans have held the governorship in Massachusetts since 1990.
There were three elected Reps during that period: Weld, Cellucci, and Romney. How many were conservatives? Do you really think that 18 years of Rep control over the governorship was sustainable in the bluest of blue states?
You failed to respond to my questions about the roles the MA Supreme Court and the overwhelming Dem legislature had in the ruination of MA. How conservative is Scott Brown, the only Rep member of Congress from MA? We all know that Romney is not a conservative, but on the political spectrum he is far to the right of our Marxist in Chief who hates this country and wants to transform it into some sort of socialist utopia.
It’s always sad when historical sites are destroyed.
I guess it’s a miracle that so many of them are still standing in spite of all the war and natural destruction.
The Statue of Liberty has been leveled many times, but only in the movies. I hope nothing ever happens to it in real life.
I am on record of being suspicious of Kristol since 1999. Anyone can look up my posts.
As near as I can determine, he supports whoever he thinks will give him a job or invite him to the White House for advice.
Example: He supported Colin Powell for president for months back in 1999, until it became obvious that Powell wasn’t going to run. Then he switched to McCain. Why didn’t he support Bush?
Because he was Quayle’s chief of staff (which he got by maneuvering the original guy out) and was distrusted by James Baker for being a leaker to the media. They wouldn’t even let him in staff meetings after a while. (Quayle says in his autobiography “Standing Firm” that is was because Baker et al were intimidated by Kristol’s intellect. This is why Dan Quayle needs to stay in Arizona. He BELIEVED the line Kristol fed him.) Kristol also was responsible for the Murphy Brown flap, which I heard him admit to Brit Hume on Fox. So the Bush people wanted nothing to do with Kristol.
After the Florida recount, Kristol suddenly became very pro-Bush. This lasted until the China spy plane incident. After Powell negotiated the release of the crew, Kristol wrote an article called “Our Profound National Humiliation” attacking Powell (whom he had supported, remember) and Bush. And ever after that Kristol would snipe and chip at the Bush people.
I also believe Kristol was responsible for the Jeffords jump which changed the balance in the Senate. Jeffords got the idea that he wasn’t going to get the dairy subsidy and that Bush was going to backstab him. That was never the case and the Bush people to this day can’t figure out why he thought that. Kristol was on Fox with the “big news” of the jump as an exclusive, complete with his possum-like grin. No one supposedly knew that Daschle had been in talks with Jeffords, but somehow Kristol knew, and I am convinced it is because he initiated the entire thing in revenge.
Now, here he is trying to give the democrats good ideas. Why would that be? Because Romney is a sharp business guy who has learned to size people up and there is no way on God’s green earth he is going to give Kristol any sort of power or influence. Plus there are a lot of Bush people on Romney’s team, who know ALL about Kristol.
So in his typical pattern, he would rather engineer a loss for Romney and get some crumbs from Hillary, than stand up for what is good for the country.
Did I mention I despise him?
There are options other than the Democrat / Republican brands on the ballot in many states this fall.
Please, there is no need to get so pissed off. Mittens is who he is, what he is not is one of us.
Excellant summary on Kristol. In answer to how he ever got where is is? His daddy Irving was a major player. Greased the skids for his termite son. Can’t stand the little creep (a child of Graham and McCain union).
Barring some unforeseen extraordinary event, only one of two men are going to be the next President: Obama or Romney. There is no one else who can possibly win. If you vote for someone else as some kind of a protest vote, you are pissing in the wind because you are in effect voting for Obama.
OK, so tell us what are the “bad” things Romney did and how would you as a CEO done it differently. After you tell us that tell us what experience you have to back your different method and it’s projected by you results.
Just because you dislike Romney as a candidate (I’m not happy with him either), that has no bearing on his success in the financial world which is all documented and includes some great success with the Olympics.
On April 23,....... it was announced to the nation that at 9:00 AM the church bells across the nation will ring for a half hour, calling the entire nation come 'to their house of worship' and... ‘To Commit Our New Government to the Most High God’.
“On the morning of the day on which our illustrious President will be invested with his office, the bells will ring at nine oclock, when the people may go up to the house of God and in a solemn manner ...'commit the new government, with its important train of consequences, to the Holy Protection and Blessing of the Most high'...... An early hour is prudently fixed for this peculiar act of devotion and . . . is designed wholly for prayer.”
The Daily Advertiser, New York, Thursday, April 23, 1789, p. 2
After being sworn-in, George Washington delivered this nation's first Inaugural Address to a joint session of Congress.
In it, Washington declared:
“It would be peculiarly improper to omit, in this first official act, my fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the universe, who presides in the councils of nations, and whose providential aids can supply every human defect.... No people can be bound to acknowledge and adore the Invisible Hand which conducts the affairs of men more than those of the United States.”
As the newly inaugurated President, George Washington's first act as President was to lead on foot, the Vice President and members of the Senate and House of Representatives, proceed to ‘St. Pauls Chapel’.
It was at St. Paul's Chapel that our nation was dedicated to God. ....Our newly founded Government joined our President, along with the rest of the nation, upon bent knee and in solemn prayer asked for God's favor and blessing upon this nation..... It was at that time that our nation was committed by our leader and the people to God Almighty.
It is at that very moment that the ground with which our nation was dedicated, became hallowed ground.....This ground was from that point on, became a special landmark to our nation and to God.
Washington regularly attended services at St. Paul's during the two years New York City was the country's capital.
God allowed an attack on our soil for the first time on 9/11....Now called ‘Ground Zero” and located just in front of the very church where our first leader, George Washington, dedicated this nation and it's people to God.......Many people do not know is out of the destruction of 9-11, there was only one building that did not suffer any damage........That one building that was not damaged at Ground Zero was St. Paul's Chapel. ....The very same chapel where our nation was dedicated to God.
Some called this attack a “Wake Up Call” to America.... that as a nation we had turned our back on God.......the hedge of protection around our nation was breached.
The only other nation dedicated to God is Israel....and throughout the old testament whenever Israel turned away from God they were infiltrated by an enemy, so too have we. The Protection this country has enjoyed and been blessed with 'looks' to have been removed as the infilitration of those who would do us harm continues...from within and without.
There remains too many Americans..and Congressional Leaders who have gone back to sleep and failed to see we cannot move ahead as a nation without God...otherwise we are currently under His Judgment until we as a nation return to Him.
So lt me understand this. Romney as Governor of MA was not responsible for the 40k jobs created in his final year BECAUSE government ncannot create jobs. Ok I get that and I agree. But then we have to listen to a claim that under Romney his State was 48th in job creation.
So Romney gets NO credit for creating jobs but takes a hit for not creating enough even though we admit the government cannot create jobs.
Really, you guys are twisting yourselves into a pretzel here and make no sense whatsoever.
At last some rational thinking.
I am not optimistic about the near future for our nation, regardless of who is elected as President. We have enemies that we have catered to within our country who more than likely at some point will attack again as they did on 9/11...and our Congressional leaders are not helpful in stopping this, too many are compliant and or appease them ' out of fear'...which is running throughout our nation now.
As I see it too many politicians are now all about their seats and holding them far more so than the country..and their decisions are based on that. As well as "the parties" themselves in retaining their power. We have a governance that's completely self serving above that of this nation or it's people.
I also think we'll be seeing far more "rumblings" throughout the worlds nations....there is much unrest now and much of it planned for IMO.
Am very sorry for Italy's loses but I am certain more will come for all nations...and we will not be exempt....sadly so.
I'll second that...except girly men, who need to remember what being a man is about.
You kinda made that clear (smile)
I’ve always hated his smug little smirk.