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To: RedMonqey
Obama acan sign any thing he wishes but it’s worthless without the Senate’s consent.

That's incorrect. There is a certain binding legality on a signed treaty regardless of its ratification, that constrains the actions of the signing executive authority -- and future congressional legislation.

That is why Bill Clinton made a cottage industry of signing left-wing U.N. bullcrap "treaties" and "conventions" that would never see the light of day in the Senate. He did it to impede the U.S. and show "good faith" like a good liberal dipshit.

The next real Republican president needs to submit all these unratified treaties and conventions to the Senate for ratification. The Senate then needs to stomp on them, hard, and the president then needs to denounce and abrogate the treaty -- then the U.S. will be completely free of said treaties.

Including, if it comes down to it, the U.N. Treaty.

Of course, R-Money, the current RiNO/Yacht Club/NWO candidate, wouldn't touch any of those NWO holy grails -- hell, he would probably sign some more of 'em if Bribeme Annan and Bunko Moon pushed them Mitty's way.

19 posted on 05/20/2012 10:53:38 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

“There is a certain binding legality on a signed treaty regardless of its ratification, that constrains the actions of the signing executive authority — and future congressional legislation. “

Incorrect,,, that is indeed the international legalistic viewpoint. But the constitution is still technically in force. There is absolutely NOTHING in the constitution that gives a treaty force of law without ratification. It clearly says that treaties must be ratified by 2/3 vote of the senate. There is NO provision that it’s still law anyway, and that future legislation must conform to it.

Nice try. Point us to the case that a presidents signature on a treaty creates law despite the senate’s opposition.


72 posted on 05/20/2012 12:05:33 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

“Of course, R-Money, the current RiNO/Yacht Club/NWO candidate, wouldn’t touch any of those NWO holy grails — hell, he would probably sign some more of ‘em if Bribeme Annan and Bunko Moon pushed them Mitty’s way.”

Exactly! And best of all - the Republicans go along with it!

Better enemy fire than friendly fire.


109 posted on 05/20/2012 2:07:47 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: lentulusgracchus

You’re right, it’s so bad and people don’t realize that Romney is in the bag just like Obama was, they both work for the same people, there will no fixing of anything. Elections will mean absolutely nothing. Anyone who thinks that is not living in reality. Reality is they’ve almost achieved all their goals and freedom is almost completely dead on our watch.


167 posted on 05/21/2012 6:47:56 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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