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Former Israeli PM: Jerusalem must be partitioned
Yahoo News ^ | 5/20/2012 | AMY TEIBEL

Posted on 05/20/2012 11:32:18 AM PDT by Former Fetus

Former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert on Sunday urged Israeli leaders to relinquish the idea of a unified Jerusalem if they truly want peace, contending in a pair of interviews that years of government neglect have kept the Jewish and Arab sectors irreparably divided.

The comments, made as Israel marked the 45th anniversary of capturing east Jerusalem, were nearly unprecedented for a mainstream Israeli leader and put Olmert at odds with his successor, Benjamin Netanyahu. Celebrating Israel's control of Jerusalem, Netanyahu declared his government was committed to keeping the entire city Israel's undivided capital.

"No Israeli government since 1967 has done even a smidgen of what was needed in order to unify the city in practical terms. That is a tragedy that is going to lead us, for want of another choice, to making inevitable political concessions," Olmert told the Maariv daily.

Israel captured east Jerusalem in the 1967 Middle East war and immediately annexed the area, home to sensitive Jewish, Christian and Muslim holy sites as well as a large Arab population. The Palestinians hope to make east Jerusalem the capital of an independent state including the neighboring West Bank and Gaza Strip.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bible; israel; jerusalem; jerusalemday; jerusalempartitioned; lastdays; prophecy
I know, I should not read garbage like this. I clicked on the link curious to see which former PM had said such a thing and then I just couldn't help myself and read the whole article. What a disgrace, especially on Yom Yerushalayim!
1 posted on 05/20/2012 11:32:26 AM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: Former Fetus

He needs to be quiet. The last Israeli PM that gave up land to the PA followed that with a stroke. Just sayin’


2 posted on 05/20/2012 11:36:25 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Former Fetus

the world has never and will never seen peace with the Arabs


3 posted on 05/20/2012 11:38:33 AM PDT by jrd (DO AWAY WITH THE EPA)
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To: Former Fetus

May I be the first to ask WTF is wrong with him?

Here are my first memories of Israel (aside from a brief awareness of the 6 day war). It came from hearing Catholic people talk about visiting the Holy Land. They had no complaints.

Now think about this, Christian people everywhere, do you think that will be the case should Muslims be granted hegemony over Jerusalem? You think you’ll just be going over there for a visit, a tour, a pilgrimage?

No, no you won’t. You’ll be burkha clad at best, kept out most likely, and tortured and killed at worst.

Sure, maybe that’s a little hyperbole, but I suggest we all wait and see how next year’s and the year after’s Egyptian tourist season is going.

Sign me: Not optimistic on any of this.


4 posted on 05/20/2012 11:40:09 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: nolongerademocrat

That’s right! The Lord does not take kindly to people dividing His land! (Joel 3:2)


5 posted on 05/20/2012 11:46:54 AM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Former Fetus

I’m in Nahariya, five miles from the border with Lebanon. At least 4 fighter jets just flew over my hotel, coming from the north-east direction (Lebanon/Syria/Jordan). Just an exercise, or....???


6 posted on 05/20/2012 11:47:40 AM PDT by onehipdad (A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.)
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To: Former Fetus

I knew it was Olmert before I clicked on the link, but checked out the article just to be sure. And lo...


7 posted on 05/20/2012 11:47:49 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Former Fetus
Of course this is YAHOO NEWS. Like Ohlmert has any credibility.

Bibi soundly defeated him and has now allied the rest of Israels leaders around himself to protect Israel.

Ohlmert has ALWAYS been an appeaser, real men like Bibi make him nervous.

8 posted on 05/20/2012 11:47:52 AM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: Former Fetus

Perfect example of why Olmert is a was.


9 posted on 05/20/2012 11:51:22 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: onehipdad

Did that scare you just a little bit?


10 posted on 05/20/2012 11:53:55 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: onehipdad

Did that scare you just a little bit?


11 posted on 05/20/2012 11:54:11 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: basil

Nah, but my wife is freaking out back in Oregon.


12 posted on 05/20/2012 12:01:05 PM PDT by onehipdad (A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.)
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To: Former Fetus

I assume Olmert has a house, or two? Israelis should “visit” those homes tonight and express what they think of his treasonous utterances. If there is anything left but ashes in the morning they should be ashamed.


13 posted on 05/20/2012 12:01:52 PM PDT by montag813 (No Amnesty - Enforce the Law! http://www.StandWithArizona.com)
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To: Former Fetus

Ehud Olmert: Hebrew for “Jimmy Carter.”


14 posted on 05/20/2012 12:04:34 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: onehipdad

I would have been right there with her—LOL!


15 posted on 05/20/2012 12:07:50 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Former Fetus

Not only that I highly doubt Jesus will rule from a divided city. He mentioned something about a house divided.


16 posted on 05/20/2012 12:10:00 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Former Fetus

Not only that I highly doubt Jesus will rule from a divided city. He mentioned something about a house divided.


17 posted on 05/20/2012 12:10:36 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: basil

Must’ve been a trainer, nothing on the local news about it.


18 posted on 05/20/2012 12:12:01 PM PDT by onehipdad (A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.)
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To: bjorn14

He won’t rule a divided world, the whole earth will be His kingdom.


19 posted on 05/20/2012 12:13:15 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Former Fetus

In a word, “UNIFIED”! Accept no substitutes.

You always get one guy on your team that makes the outlandish comments of your enemy seem less unreasoned. Boot guys like that from your team.


20 posted on 05/20/2012 12:19:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Okay, now lets see if the RNC, Rove, and Card can get him elected without their core base. Game on!)
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To: Former Fetus

I agree with you about Joel Ch 3. Whats in view here is Israel and Judah being restored at the end of the age, “in those days and at that time’

Joel 3:1, he returns Judah and Jerusalem. This happened on June 7th, 1967.

God is using the Jubilee process to restore Israel and the world. This is not for the church, the church is spirit and waiting for the Bridegroom.

To complete the restoration he then needs three things to meet the conditions of Leviticus Ch 25 and Daniel Ch 9 to declare the Jubilee if he so chooses.

1. Jerusalem, and Judea restored, when they ‘come into the land that I shall give you’
2. He needs 17,640 days (49 x 360 days)
3. He needs a Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement. And then if he so chooses can declare the Jubilee himself (see Jeremiah Ch 34:17). He knows how to count one, we don’t.

At some point after the restoration of Jerusalem, the nations “cast lots for my people” Joel 3:3 (like Purim, when the Persians voted to destroy Israel, they meant it for evil, God meant if for good) the nations will vote in some manner to part the land. Like they almost did last August in the UN. Then he will bring all nations to the valley of decision.

The rest of Joel Ch 3 reads like the book of Revelation.

When they divide the land, they are working to undue the punitive measures he has now resolved after the Babylonian captivity by 70 years and then another 2520 years to the very day in 1967.


21 posted on 05/20/2012 12:35:00 PM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: Former Fetus
Sure, let's make part of Jerusalem Judenrein.

ML/NJ

22 posted on 05/20/2012 1:09:30 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Former Fetus

“Old Merde” is a putz, and most in Israel know he is a putz.


23 posted on 05/20/2012 1:15:50 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Former Fetus

Israel needs to reclaim ALL the land God has given him. Throw out the ferals in the West Bank and the Gaza strip.


24 posted on 05/20/2012 1:22:21 PM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: Former Fetus

Another liberal that can’t read nor comprehend Bible Prophecy.

Hey Olmert, better read Zechariah 12:1-3 and 14:1-5.

It is most surely coming. And it’s gonna be bad for a few years. Real bad.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zechariah%2012:1-3,%2014:1-5&version=KJV

Zechariah 12:1-3

King James Version (KJV)

12 The burden of the word of the Lord for Israel, saith the Lord, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Zechariah 14:1-5

King James Version (KJV)

14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.


25 posted on 05/20/2012 1:28:25 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: nolongerademocrat

And there was the 1993 “deal” and all that followed.


26 posted on 05/20/2012 1:36:36 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: onehipdad

Recon fligh with escorts perhaps?


27 posted on 05/20/2012 1:38:18 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Former Fetus
Omert, yeah, the guy that seized power when Sharon “had a brain Hemorrhage”. You know, from having 10 times the recommended dose of blood thinners kinda problem.

The guy that said that a vote on him taking power because Sharon after his brain surgery in his coma was not really permanently incapacitated, but was “temporarily incapacitated in a permanent sort of way” so the laws on a vote did not apply.

The guy that voted against his party so much he quit the party and started his own, and handed out ministry posts like party favors to all that would bow to his illegal position. The guy that was going to prison for illegal land deals till he made deals with...

That guy, we should listen to him? Why? Because of his wisdom, his honor or his word?

28 posted on 05/20/2012 2:15:11 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Former Fetus
There are predators, and there are prey.

The prey should be careful not to allow the clueless or cowards among them to make the rules for survival.

"Peace in our time" redux?

29 posted on 05/20/2012 2:19:30 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("It's easy to make promises you can't keep" - B.H.Obama Feb 23, 2012)
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To: jocon307
I suggest we all wait and see how next year’s and the year after’s Egyptian tourist season is going.

Or not.

30 posted on 05/20/2012 2:20:50 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("It's easy to make promises you can't keep" - B.H.Obama Feb 23, 2012)
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To: Former Fetus

Israel cannot give away what God has granted to them. Further, any attempt to buy peace with land will only end in blood being shed on both sides.


31 posted on 05/20/2012 2:29:05 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Former Fetus

Israel should never compromise when it comes to dealing with rabid dogs.


32 posted on 05/20/2012 2:46:44 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Former Fetus

Yes. What a crazy old fool. Or worse, maybe he’s “channelling” Jimmy Carter? Gawd, can Israel afford its very own kosher Carter!? As if they don’t already have enough enemies to contend with?


33 posted on 05/20/2012 3:12:43 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (remember when "Four more years!" was a credible campaign slogan for an incumbent?)
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Doubt anyone cares what Ohlmert thinks. It's not like Israel hasn't offered to partition Jerusalem. Like Barak, the paletinians spit that offer back into Ohlmert's face

34 posted on 05/20/2012 4:11:33 PM PDT by SJackson (As a black man, you know, Barack could get shot going to the gas station, M Obama)
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To: SJackson

Give the Palis the Holyland hotel. It has the best building permits money can buy.


35 posted on 05/20/2012 10:13:01 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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