Posted on 05/20/2012 6:26:33 PM PDT by Syncro
I make up my own mind but I value both of their opinions.
Don’t agree with Levin about Romney. He doesn’t like him either but has said he will support and work hard to help him win.
Thanks for the post, Syncro.
GO TED CRUZ! Texas Freepers, start your engines.
Stop implying that I FReepmailed you once for any reason other than to privately correct your ridiculous and wrong implication that I pinged “my Posse” with my post to BlackElk.
But you can stop your worrying, I won’t be wasting my time posting or communicating with you at at all on the forum in any way henceforth.
and as you don’t know what you are doing, try to stop trying to play posting police.
Well, if you are really interested, it would be helpful for you to be familiar with the responsibilities and structure of the office of Lt. Governor in Texas, which is kind of unique among the several states. Dewhurst’s accomplishments and successfully fulfilling the requirements of this office during his time as a citizen legislator/executive officer goes right to the reason he is so well-prepared to go represent Texas in the United States Senate right now. Here’s a link to give you background on the Office of Lt. Governor for the State of Texas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lieutenant_Governor_of_Texas
How does this differ from the office of Lt. Gov. in your own state, if it does?
You ask the following:
“Are there any specific actions (bill sponsorships, creative proposals, organizational feats) that make him an exceptional candidate? This is your chance to promote Dewhurst”
Ask and ye shall receive:
“The Conservative Case For Electing
Dewhurst To The U.S. Senate
There’s a major reason why Texas conservatives are coalescing behind Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst in the open U.S. Senate race. While virtually all candidates in the extended field agree we need a dramatic housecleaning in Washington, Dewhurst is the sole contender who has proven he can deliver on what he promises.
Dewhurst has compiled an impressive record of budget-cutting and trimming government, starting in his first political office with a major reduction in force at the General Land Office. He continued to hold the line during his five legislative sessions as Lieutenant Governor. Even during periodic rough economic times, the Texas Legislature has eliminated expected shortfalls and balanced the state budget entirely by cutting spending, never once resorting to a general tax increase. That’s a record unmatched anywhere in the country.
Working with Gov. Perry and the Republican majority, Dewhurst has also pushed through legislation protecting vulnerable human life, trimming excesses of personal injury trial lawyers, maintaining a job-friendly regulatory and tax climate, safeguarding the integrity of elections and reducing taxes when possible - all while strengthening our border security. He has helped create a favorable business climate that has attracted businesses and created jobs, and made Texas the envy of other states. When Dewhurst vows to take this Texas model to Washington, he does so with credibility and personal experience.
Dewhurst has managed to accomplish all this in the Texas Senate, where the minority party still has the numbers to stop any legislation dead in its tracks. But Dewhurst has a businessman’s ability to work to a successful deal without sacrificing his principles. As Ronald Reagan advocated, he takes 90 percent and tries to get the remaining 10 percent next time. He’s been equally effective in enacting conservative social policy as well. As one prominent pro-life leader has said: “Until Lt. Gov. Dewhurst was elected, the state senate was where our legislation came to die. He has been a game-changer for the pro-family movement.”
Even as Lt. Governor, Dewhurst has never been part of the inside Austin establishment. He was strongly opposed by the lobby when he first ran for Lt. Governor. Since his election, he’s been a quiet and persistent advocate for transparency and reform, and an enemy of business as usual. He’s developed a well-deserved reputation for intelligence, integrity and independence. He doesn’t read a teleprompter well, but he’s serious about public policy. Dewhurst is never afraid to dive into issues and come up with solutions that embrace free market principles, as he’s done with state health care and other issues. And he’s as persistent as he is serious. He will make a principled and determined U.S. Senator.
Several Senate candidates have unusual personal histories, but Dewhurst’s life story is particularly compelling. His father, a WWII hero, was killed in an auto accident when David was only three. He worked his way through school, overcame a stuttering problem, became a U.S. Air Force officer, and later served abroad in the CIA. When he came back to Houston, Dewhurst started a business, suffered some reversals, dusted himself off and started anew.
Dewhurst was ultimately successful in the energy co-generation industry. He has since given back to our communities in a major way. His contributions over the years to conservative causes, and to those in need, have been made quietly, and they’re inspiring. He is a man of compassion and generosity... and steely resolve.
Starting relatively late in life, Dewhurst became active in political life - even while continuing to run his investment firm. He knows from personal experience that our national wealth expands, and our people become prosperous, only when the private sector takes risks and creates jobs. More importantly, he knows how the heavy hand of government can undermine the hopes and dreams of entrepreneurs and small businessmen. Congress needs more businessmen, more men and women who have created jobs and who can address our troubled economy with personal experience and conviction.
The U.S. Senate race has produced a number of solid candidates and future political talent. Virtually all of them talk the talk about cleaning up the mess in Washington - repealing Obamacare, reducing spending, creating a good business environment. But only one has truly walked the walk, and proven that he can deliver. Dewhurst has a solid track record of accomplishment reining in government on the state level, balancing budgets, protecting the core American family, defending our sovereignty, and safeguarding the American dream for future generations.”
Texas Conservative Review believes David Dewhurst will represent Texas with distinction in the U.S. Senate.
Sorry if you don't like it if I mentioned that I asked you to stop FR mailing me, and then you did it again.
Thus my telling you on the forum to stop.
Your word is no good, you already said you were through posting to me.
There you go with another attack on me in the post I am responding to.
I also know what you are doing ngat.
Oh and the posting police accusation?
I have done nothing of the sort. Post all you want, just be prepared to be challenged on your spin towards a Conservative candidate for Senate.
I see you got a PDS post...
: > )
PDS?
It shows itself when anyone expresses respect towards Palin and her political views or endorsements.
In the PDSers minds, if you do that you are a blind worshiper and follower of Palin and make no decisions on your own.
And they post childish comments which only goes to show that they are incapable of reasoned debate.
You handled it well Mary!
In the case of Levin and Palin backing Cruz, to me it shows that they have done their homework and came to the same conclusions that I have.
It's a plus, but PDSers have to try to marginalize people like Palin and Levin, and of course those of us that do our own vetting. Yet we naturally express pleasure that prominent well respected Conservatives see the importance of what we already knew.
Whew, long post, Sorry!
Thanks. That saves me the trouble of pointing out at length the similarity of Dewhurst and Romney's failures to lay out a specific conservative platform or a track record for conservatism. What we see from Dewhurst supporters is the same sorts of attacks on a conservative opponent that was Romney's stock in trade until he folded like a cheap suit or an ultimate RINO politico and went all politically pacifist lest he offend Obozo or the privileged girls down at Muffy's Junior League Club.
If Dewhurst has actually personally accomplished anything genuinely worthwhile as to public policy or credibly displayed genuinely conservative beliefs, principles and commitment beyond comforting his fellow comfortables (understanding that Texas is a far easier venue for conservative action than, say, the knee-jerk leftist Upper East Side of Manhattan), you would think that any actually conservative supporters Dewhurst may have would be genuinely eager to make a positive policy case for him here. The absence of such an argument speaks volumes.
Mountain Mary:
Not only is Cruz supported by Sarah Palin and Mark Levin but Levin says that he has known Cruz for a long time. I think the world of Sarah Palin. I also tend to think very highly of Mark Levin not only because he is a brilliant and principled talk show host but also, like me, Mark was active in Young Americans for Freedom during the days of the New Right Resistance to Nixon and Ford and McGovern and Carter leading up to Reagan's presidency which YAF supported absolutely. Conservative veterans of the sixteen year all-out effort to blow past the political establishment of BOTH parties and the antics of Obozo's pals' New Left to elect Ronaldus Maximus will always have high regard for one another.
Sarah Palin is starting at a younger age than did Reagan. She has many of his qualities AND has no hesitancy in endorsing the anti-establishment revolutionary candidates in the GOP, riding as a passenger on a Harley into the pro-veteran Rolling Thunder event and embracing the attendees as her brothers and sisters, going into venues where the stodgy bean counters and trust fund babies dare not venture, purging corrupt plutocrats on the Alaska Oil and Gas Commission and doing it all with looks, charm, brains, brilliance of personality, good humor and blue collar appeal as Mama Grizzly, as Todd's wife, as a mother of five, and as a threat to turn moose into mooseburgers everywhere where moose are available. She is a practicing patriot, a practicing pro-lifer, a practicing gun enthusiast, a practicing and living example of pro-family, an enemy of $$$$ corruption in government and therefore inevitably a future candidate whose candidacy will reduce leftists, liberals, "moderates," squishballs, baby-killers, gun grabbers, corrupt establishment zillionaires in a feeding frenzy for tax dollars, and other miscreants to a future in diapers for those who are obsolete and have been permanently replaced.
Syncro:
Thanks for the heads up. Ngat did post the same material to me separately. Also the "posse" he pinged are some of my FRiends here whom I previously pinged. I think, in fairness, he wanted them to see his response to what I had posted to them.
ngat:
Consider a response in detail to Dr. Sivana's request. It does not unreasonably limit you or your candidate and such a response would do more for your candidate than will bashing Ted Cruz who certainly seems to be running away with conservative movement support. If Dewhurst has conservative credentials, provide them and let us review the case you make.
I’m tough since the vitriol of the primaries. I was a Santorum fan and you woulda thought I was supporting Charles Manson..the way some Freepers, mostly Newties, behaved.
I stood up to the naysayers and it made me stronger. Some Freepers abuse this site and have the maturity of my seven month old grandson.
And what’s with the three page diatribes(not you but I’m sure you know who I’m talking about).
It’s all about their attempts to exercise control, Syncro. Some of these folks must not be listened to very much at home. :-)
Already posted to Dr. Sivana.
“Well, if you are really interested, it would be helpful for you to be familiar with the responsibilities and structure of the office of Lt. Governor in Texas, which is kind of unique among the several states. Dewhurst’s accomplishments and successfully fulfilling the requirements of this office during his time as a citizen legislator/executive officer goes right to the reason he is so well-prepared to go represent Texas in the United States Senate right now. Here’s a link to give you background on the Office of Lt. Governor for the State of Texas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lieutenant_Governor_of_Texas
How does this differ from the office of Lt. Gov. in your own state, if it does?
You ask the following:
“Are there any specific actions (bill sponsorships, creative proposals, organizational feats) that make him an exceptional candidate? This is your chance to promote Dewhurst”
Ask and ye shall receive:
“The Conservative Case For Electing
Dewhurst To The U.S. Senate
There’s a major reason why Texas conservatives are coalescing behind Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst in the open U.S. Senate race. While virtually all candidates in the extended field agree we need a dramatic housecleaning in Washington, Dewhurst is the sole contender who has proven he can deliver on what he promises.
Dewhurst has compiled an impressive record of budget-cutting and trimming government, starting in his first political office with a major reduction in force at the General Land Office. He continued to hold the line during his five legislative sessions as Lieutenant Governor. Even during periodic rough economic times, the Texas Legislature has eliminated expected shortfalls and balanced the state budget entirely by cutting spending, never once resorting to a general tax increase. That’s a record unmatched anywhere in the country.
Working with Gov. Perry and the Republican majority, Dewhurst has also pushed through legislation protecting vulnerable human life, trimming excesses of personal injury trial lawyers, maintaining a job-friendly regulatory and tax climate, safeguarding the integrity of elections and reducing taxes when possible - all while strengthening our border security. He has helped create a favorable business climate that has attracted businesses and created jobs, and made Texas the envy of other states. When Dewhurst vows to take this Texas model to Washington, he does so with credibility and personal experience.
Dewhurst has managed to accomplish all this in the Texas Senate, where the minority party still has the numbers to stop any legislation dead in its tracks. But Dewhurst has a businessman’s ability to work to a successful deal without sacrificing his principles. As Ronald Reagan advocated, he takes 90 percent and tries to get the remaining 10 percent next time. He’s been equally effective in enacting conservative social policy as well. As one prominent pro-life leader has said: “Until Lt. Gov. Dewhurst was elected, the state senate was where our legislation came to die. He has been a game-changer for the pro-family movement.”
Even as Lt. Governor, Dewhurst has never been part of the inside Austin establishment. He was strongly opposed by the lobby when he first ran for Lt. Governor. Since his election, he’s been a quiet and persistent advocate for transparency and reform, and an enemy of business as usual. He’s developed a well-deserved reputation for intelligence, integrity and independence. He doesn’t read a teleprompter well, but he’s serious about public policy. Dewhurst is never afraid to dive into issues and come up with solutions that embrace free market principles, as he’s done with state health care and other issues. And he’s as persistent as he is serious. He will make a principled and determined U.S. Senator.
Several Senate candidates have unusual personal histories, but Dewhurst’s life story is particularly compelling. His father, a WWII hero, was killed in an auto accident when David was only three. He worked his way through school, overcame a stuttering problem, became a U.S. Air Force officer, and later served abroad in the CIA. When he came back to Houston, Dewhurst started a business, suffered some reversals, dusted himself off and started anew.
Dewhurst was ultimately successful in the energy co-generation industry. He has since given back to our communities in a major way. His contributions over the years to conservative causes, and to those in need, have been made quietly, and they’re inspiring. He is a man of compassion and generosity... and steely resolve.
Starting relatively late in life, Dewhurst became active in political life - even while continuing to run his investment firm. He knows from personal experience that our national wealth expands, and our people become prosperous, only when the private sector takes risks and creates jobs. More importantly, he knows how the heavy hand of government can undermine the hopes and dreams of entrepreneurs and small businessmen. Congress needs more businessmen, more men and women who have created jobs and who can address our troubled economy with personal experience and conviction.
The U.S. Senate race has produced a number of solid candidates and future political talent. Virtually all of them talk the talk about cleaning up the mess in Washington - repealing Obamacare, reducing spending, creating a good business environment. But only one has truly walked the walk, and proven that he can deliver. Dewhurst has a solid track record of accomplishment reining in government on the state level, balancing budgets, protecting the core American family, defending our sovereignty, and safeguarding the American dream for future generations.”
Texas Conservative Review believes David Dewhurst will represent Texas with distinction in the U.S. Senate.
I do apologize for taking so long to respond to your post, especially because you are a voter in the Texas primary and instead I have been tied in knots for days wasting all my free time countering the bullsh** posts out-of-state Progressives who know nothing of Texas and Texas politics.
I was scrolling through the thread, which I am still using to get through to well-meaning conservative people who have bought into the Cruz campaign’s very clever attack strategy of deception and mischaracterization of David Dewhurst’s record and positions on the issues, when I came across your post and noticed your concerns on the Cruz’s attacks on Dewhurst via the immigration issue had not been answered.
I might first mention that “hocndoc” capably refuted in his Post #63 in this thread the false accusation by the Cruz campaign that Dewhurst is pro-tax increase. Please check that post out before you make up your mind who to vote for next Tuesday. And I might also mention that Dewhurst pushed through the best pro-life measure that it is possible to have pass legal muster, under the present Roe v Wade structure we operate under, and that is the new Texas sonogram law.
But as to your concern about Dewhurst’s record regarding your determining issue - immigration, and just to remind, I will quote your post, then post my response”
“Okay, I do have a question for y’all, and I would like to get your input because this pertains to a very important issue .. in fact, the deciding one .. determining where my vote will go:
My understanding is that, in the special session that was called by Gov Perry, David Dewhurst was the driving factor in preventing an affirmative vote on combating illegal immigration and illegal immigrant “rights” in the legislature (along the lines of the Arizona laws). Now, I will grant you that I got most of my information pertaining to this either here on FR or on other conservative websites on the net.
Can you explain to me how a self-described conservative like David Dewhurst could use his position .. and, yes, I understand that the LT GOV is probably one of the most, if not the most, powerful position in Texas government .. to prevent such anti-illegal immigration laws?
As I said, I am asking this question for any additional information that you can provide. Over the years, in the past, I have voted for David Dewhurst for various positions. In this situation, I am inclined to go with Cruz, because of the special session fiasco that David Dewhurst appeared to be responsible for and because of the endorsements that Cruz has received from other people that I do respect.”
Governor Rick Perry (who has sole discretion as to the agenda in a special session) called the special session last summer to address the most important issues not completed during the regular session. Obviously, the most important was passage of the budget (which of course contained several varying controversial matters including defunding planned parenthood, and several different issues related to the rainy-day fund and education, and health care), redistricting, and laws concerning Texas Windstorm Insurace Association. All three groupings of issues were dealt with well during the special session.
Here is a link to a discussion of the special session issues -
http://www.texastribune.org/texas-legislature/82nd-legislative-session/the-final-push-a-special-session-update-/
Contrary to what the Cruz campaign says, David Dewhurst has NOT used his position .. to prevent such anti-illegal immigration laws.
Regarding your concern on illegal immigration, there is no one stronger on that issue than David Dewhurst. There were two controversial issues in that special session that Dewhurst’s political opponents have been trying to use to bash him and that was what measures the State of Texas can take to control illegal immigration since the Federal Government will not do its job, and what the State of Texas can do to control the misbehavior of Federal Government gropers at Texas Airports. A good, although not perfect, discussion of those issues is in the link I provided, but they do address your concerns that David Dewhurst is somehow on the wrong side of those issues. Our State Attorney General’s office currently has its hands full fighting the Federal Government on the redistricting, voter ID, Obamacare, the EPA, education and health and unemployment funding and a host of other issues. We need to see how the Arizona Laws fare before the Supreme Court before we pass Arizona-style immigration control laws in our state. David Dewhurst meanwhile has pushed through the Senate what he could legally do right now on immigration, namely increasing funding for border security on the state level by $400 million, committing those funds to strategic regions which has resulted in a drastic reduction in crime on our side of the border in those communities; he got legislation passed creating tougher penalties for illegal alien smuggling - in short he has actively done all that it is possible to do under current Federal Law, and when the Supreme Court rules, I sure the State of Texas will be doing everything it is allowed to do by the Federal Government under the supremacy clause to protect itself.
I just hope that by then Lt. Governor Dewhurst is in a position to defend the interests of State of Texas from inside the the U.S. Senate.
Thanks for your interest, and I hope you do decide to vote for the proven conservative David Dewhurst instead of risking all on a load of campaign promises.
With the composition of the Texas House and Senate so strongly in the hands of the Republicans, there shouldn't have been any problem in passing these anti-sanctuary city bills and using them as clubs to bludgeon those law-breaking cities into line.
I'll again grant you that it may be nitpicking at this level, but I do firmly believe that anti-illegal immigration bills are probably the most important that have to come before the legislature: the effects of illegal immigration overarch everything else, encompassing the budget, health, welfare, transportation, jobs, and taxes. As Lieutenant Governor, he should have been better able to formulate an agenda that allowed the time to get these bills past any obstacles and onto the governor's desk for signature.
Thanks for your reply.
All I can tell you is the Lt. Governor is not all-powerful and in a special session there are priorities on the state level of business and not every item is going to get passed. The House is more of an impediment to passage of those measures you are most concerned with, and I am sure that in order to get what Lt. Gov. Dewhurst did get passed in the special session, something must had had to been conceded to get what could be actually gotten, actually done.
Politics is the art of making civilization work and nobody ever gets 100% of everything they want, and I’m not going to punish the best Lt. Gov. in decades for not getting all of what I wanted on all my particular hot-button issues. Especially, will I not put up with some trial lawyer with no record of ever having a recorded vote on anything taking potshots, shots that are extremely deceptive in nature, and misrepresenting a good conservative to try to parlay the tea-party and their naivete into a U.S. Senate seat. Cruz has not earned and does not deserve our party’s nomination for Texas U.S. Senate seat.
It’s also strange that Dewhurst assigned Senator Birdwell’s bill that would have stopped in-state tuition for illegals to liberal Democrat Zaffirini’s Committee effectively killing it. I’m not sure you can paint that any other way than Dewhurst didn’t want it to pass.
Ngat, this is exactly what I was talking about. What say you on this?
I can tell you that your example illustrates perfectly the clever campaign tactics, actually Alinsky in nature, that any sharp bunch on Lawyers running for public office always use to attack their conservative opponent.
Do you understand that tactic?
The Lawyers want you to think the quote in your post is proof of the case they are trying to make, while in reality everything in David Dewhurst’s life and career as Lt. Governor of the State of Texas proves that he is a conservative.
Everything about Cruz and his life so far show that he is much more likely to have liberal tendencies than Dewhurst. Yet precisely because Cruz has no record, except for arguing cases on behalf of his bosses taking the positions he was hired to take, Cruz is practically bulletproof from this type of attack himself!
I know you are finding it hard to wrap your head around this, but Dewhurst is the Conservative, Cruz is the liberal insider in this primary election!
I'll grant you that there are some Democrats here in Texas who are generally more conservative than some of the big-city RINOs who are elected. However, there should be enough conservatives to ensure committee chairmanship to allow favorable returns on bills submitted to that committee.
Where the rubber meets the road, tell me this: does David Dewhurst support or in-State tuition for illegal aliens? I've seen, read, and heard both sides, but I would really like a straight answer as to this and to why, if he was in favor of stopping in-State tuition assistance to illegal aliens, he sent the bill to a committee which was obviously biased against stopping such tuition.
BlueLancer, Dewhurst IS one of the best conservatives we have had in years in Texas.
I confess, I would have to more research to answer directly why any particular bill may have been sent to some particular committee, or why a favorable return was not reached on any particular bill. But that goes to the nature of pulling one particular item like that out of a lifelong conservative’s history and using it to attack him and try to make that one item or result you did not like be a raeson to vote for the guy with NO record and who has nothing but campaign promises and his ability as a lawyer to offer.
Even the way you frame your question “ does David Dewhurst support or in-State tuition for illegal aliens?” shows you have bought into Cruz attack strategy, because David Dewhurst has never favored in-state tuition for illegal aliens. The Federal Government forces the state of Texas and you as a taxpayer to educate the children of illegal aliens all the way through to graduation from our public high schools. Then what? Well, that is the question the Feds have dumped in our lap to solve! Dewhurst, or Perry, or any of the State Senators or Representatives almost all of whom voted to allow them in-state rates for college tuitiion were not supporting in-state college tuition rates for illegal allens themselves as we commonly define illegal aliens. I hope you can make this distinction. But, here is part of what I posted to a dude, further trying to explain that what went down in the state government while wrestling with this problem NOT OF ITS OWN MAKING
This is an attack on Dewhurst, an Alinsky type of attack , that any sharp bunch of Lawyers running for public office always use to attack their conservative opponent.
Do you understand that tactic?
The Lawyers want you to think what Dewhurst did in wrestling with the “Dream Act” promlem is proof of the case they are trying to make that Dewhurst loves the illegal alens and hates the good ol’ Texas taxpayers, while in reality everything in David Dewhurst’s life and career as Lt. Governor of the State of Texas proves that he is a conservative.
Everything about Cruz and his life so far show that he is much more likely to have liberal tendencies than Dewhurst.
And I know that you know Cruz is just another Harvard Lawyer with the straight-out Goldman-Sach connection trying to pull off starting his political career with a US Senate seat! Its audacious and incredible when you think about it!
This guy, who has spent most of his adult life in Massechusetts and Washington actually is trying to convince us that Lt. Gov. Dewhurst in trying to work with the legislature in how to make the best of a huge problem the Federal Government has dumped on the Sate by deliberately not enforcing Federal Immigration Law, is now trying to convince us that this proves we should vote for him? I’m not buying it!
Why the heck didn’t Cruz solve the problem when he was Solicitor General? Tell me, what is the Cruz-stated position on the people who have attended the Public School System of the State of Texas and graduated and otherwise qualify to attend the State University System?
Because Cruz has no record, except for arguing cases on behalf of his bosses taking the positions he was hired to take, Cruz is practically bulletproof from this type of attack himself!
I know you are finding it hard to wrap your head around this, but Dewhurst is the Conservative, Cruz is the liberal insider in this primary election!
Thanks for the coherent explanation ..
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