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European Commission should be EU government, says Germany
EU Observer ^ | 17.05.12 @ 09:01 (May 17) | Honor Mahony

Posted on 05/20/2012 10:20:31 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The European Union needs to become more integrated with a common finance policy and a central government, German finance minister Wolfgang Schäuble said Wednesday (16 May).

"I would be for the further development of the European Commission into a government. I am for the election of a European president, he said at an event in Aachen, reports Reuters.

"I am in favor of being more courageous on Europe," said Schäuble, who is one of the German government's most pro-European ministers.

He said this is a long-term response to the current eurozone crisis, which many have said has been exacerbated by the fact that the EU lacked the tools—such as a central transfer system—to effectively deal with it.

"We certainly won't manage it in this legislative period," said Schäuble, referring to the creation of a finance ministry, but noted that for a currency union, a part of finance policy needs to be harmonized.

That should be the "lesson" learned from the current crisis. …

(Excerpt) Read more at euobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: centralization; eucommission; europeanunion; eussr; france; germany; russia; totalitarianism; unitedkingdom
There's Germany's current finance minister espousing the pro-bailout line. So long as the draconian terms are agreed to, of course. The Commission stays as an unelected politburo, of course. He won't ever get an elected "president"; that's not the plans for the "super-president" that the Berlin Group is thinking about.
1 posted on 05/20/2012 10:20:45 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai; Cincinna; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Olog-hai.


2 posted on 05/20/2012 10:37:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Olog-hai

Leftists always double down on government. The only way to fix socialism when it inevitably fails is to further concentrate power in the masterminds. A Euro superstate with more power concentrated in fewer hands is a far, far more likely outcome than the dissolution of the EU.


3 posted on 05/20/2012 10:39:47 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Olog-hai

And when is Herr Schäuble going to ask the German people whether they think this is a good idea or not?

They probably won’t have anything to do with it, but then in the 30s they did vote for that mustaschioed man so who knows... History has shown that Europeans have a fondness for authoritarian rulers.


4 posted on 05/20/2012 10:41:57 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy

The people of Germany despise the notion, to be sure. But this shows the power of the elites even now.


5 posted on 05/20/2012 10:45:14 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Yes, but we are seeing the elites being more and more pressed. In election after election extremist parties are making progress. So far - with the exception of Greece, naturally - the upper limits for the extreme left and the extreme/nationalist right are about 20% in national elections, but that limit may soon be breached.

I won’t grieve for our “elite” politicians, but I am afraid that the backlash against them and their megalomaniac EU-creation will flush away democracy and free market economy in many countries, just like in the 30s.


6 posted on 05/20/2012 10:54:16 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Olog-hai

In the near future, I predict Germany will return to their own curreency, and will tell the EU to go pound sand.


7 posted on 05/20/2012 11:04:54 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: wjcsux

From your keyboard to God’s ears.


8 posted on 05/20/2012 11:06:59 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: wjcsux

From your keyboard to God’s ears.


9 posted on 05/20/2012 11:07:20 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: wjcsux

The EU is basically Germany’s baby. The intent there is not to relinquish it. The euro was patterned after the Deutsche mark, and the ECB after the Bundesbank. They probably have a way to make the “writ large” version of their monetary system work, but not until after the rest of the EU asks for it after the pain of the “beneficial crisis” becomes too much for them.


10 posted on 05/20/2012 11:13:09 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
"They probably have a way to make the “writ large” version of their monetary system work, but not until after the rest of the EU asks for it "

It does appear that the Germans realized, during reunification, that they had taken socialism as far as it could go. A little too far. They did their austerity.

Jetzt fordern sie Disziplin!

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11 posted on 05/21/2012 1:43:12 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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They still haven’t given up the “social market economy”, and are still positing that as the alternative to the “Anglo-Saxon economic model” that didn’t actually fail but was abandoned by the libs in the US and Britain. They really weren’t that austere.


12 posted on 05/21/2012 9:52:32 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Sometimes, it is really funny comparing, Olog-hai’s version of the super smart and nefarious german politicans, with the german view of them as tumb, provincial administrators who blunder from one crisis to another.


13 posted on 05/21/2012 11:18:04 AM PDT by NMachiavelli
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To: NMachiavelli

Maybe if you listened to the words of these politicians, you’d come off with a different view of them. The CDU in particular have confessed to having a particular passion for a united Europe. Their continent-wide influence cannot be denied at this point.


14 posted on 05/21/2012 11:25:36 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Strange thing, that one of the wealthiest and most populous countries in europe has some influence in the political theatre of the EU.
For the most part Germany is just the most visible part of a block of nations with more or less the same agendas (BeNeLux, Austria, Denmark, Sweden, Finland and recently Poland and the baltic nations) and still they need one of the other big 4(UK, Spain, Italy or most likely France) to achieve the influence they currently possess.

There is more than one view of europe inside the CDU/CSU there is Schäuble, who is affected by Kohl, and the more sceptical faction of Seehofer or even more extreme Bosbach, Steinbach et al.
And inbetween is Merkel and her clique of secretaries who see the EU as a necessity to be able to compete with USA, China, India, Russia and Brazil in the future


15 posted on 05/22/2012 2:38:05 PM PDT by NMachiavelli
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