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Mega Obama Donor Bill Maher: Yeah, Mormonism's a "Cult"
Townhall.com ^ | May 21, 2010 | Guy Benson

Posted on 05/21/2012 2:50:36 PM PDT by Kaslin

Maher's brand of bile is more overt than the preferred approach of his fellow media lefties, but subtlety was never Bill's modus operandi.  Via Twitter:
 

RT @billmaher: Why even listen to on foreign policy? His entire FP experience is 2 yrs trying to brow-beat Frenchmen into joining his cult


Quick reactions:

(1) Some liberals are already saying that because Maher is a militant, aggressive atheist, he views all religions as cults.  Has he called Barack Obama's Trinity United Church of Christ a "cult"?  I can't seem to recall that particular smear for some reason.

(2) David Axelrod said just yesterday that Mitt Romney's Mormonism is "off the table" for the fall campaign.  Will he encourage Obama's SuperPAC to return Maher's $1 million donation?

(3) But wait, you protest, the Obama campaign can't legally control the behavior and decisions of its Super PAC.  True.  Over to you, Bill Burton -- director of Obama's SuperPAC:
 

Priorities USA, a super-PAC that supports President Obama, won't touch on Mitt Romney's Mormonism in its attacks, the group's head told The Hill Monday morning. "We are ruling that out," Priorities USA senior strategist Bill Burton said. "I don't even see the point in engaging in this conversation too much. ... The campaign said they wouldn't engage on it. I haven't heard of any Democrat who has said that should be touched."


Now that he has clearly established that bigotry and religious fear-mongering have no place in the 2012 campaign, will Burton stamp "return to sender" on Maher's massive check?  If not, I don't want to hear one single peep from Obamaworld about Mitt Romney's lack of "moral leadership" in the realm of today's escalating politics of repudiation.

(4) Bill Maher is an insufferable hater who's been slamming Mormonism (and other faiths) for years.  He explicitly called Mitt Romney's church "a cult" last month:
 

http://www.mrctv.org/videos/ignorant-bill-maher-romney-only-gives-mormons-his-cult-thats-not-charity-theyre-not-poor-people

Yeah, don't expect Billy B. to mail back that seven-figure check any time soon.  This is who Bill Maher is, and Team Obama knew it when they accepted his cash.  And by the way, Maher is dead wrong that Romney "only" donated to his church.  He's also given hefty sums to cancer and MS research organizations, charities for our troops, and children's groups.  And Romney's contributions to the Mormon church weren't just to help indigent Mormons, they were to help facilitate the church's philanthropic and humanitarian work around the world -- or as Maher would characterize it, "brow-beating poor people into benefiting from his cult."


UPDATE - No comment from Team Obama: "The Obama campaign did not respond to an e-mail from BuzzFeed asking whether they would repudiate Maher's remarks."

UPDATE II - Apparently the Obama campaign has offered a tepid rebuke without mentioning Maher by name.  They did not comment on the status of his large donation.


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To: Kaslin

“(4) Bill Maher is an insufferable hater who’s been slamming Mormonism (and other faiths) for years. He explicitly called Mitt Romney’s church “a cult” last month:”

Well, he is an insufferable fool, but he is right about Mormonism being a cult. Even a fool and liar occasionally speaks the truth...of course he did it unwittingly.

Guys, Mormons are the ultimatel sectarians. The founder, Joseph Smith (the 19th Centuries greatest con man) taught that all other Christian Denominations are false. Mormonisn is not even close to orthodox Christian theology...and it certainly doesn’t derive its theology from the Bible.

Anyway...I don’t defend Bill Maher, because he is slime. However, he IS right about Mormonisn being a cult.

That is the “one” good thing I see coming out of a Romney candidancy. Mormonism is going to be throughly studied and scrutinized....it cannot stand that.


51 posted on 05/21/2012 5:14:17 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Loud Mime

I believe Jefferson was a regular church goer, I forget which Christian church he was a member of, you can look it up and join them, to start attending.

Most conservatives identify with the intense Christianity of the Founders, both those in leadership, and among the rest of the founding American public and rank and file Americans.

Mormonism was created when many of the Americans from 1787 were still alive, and Mormonism was treated as the cult it is.


52 posted on 05/21/2012 5:15:49 PM PDT by ansel12 ( The first American vote for a man who believes that he will become literally God, an actual deity.)
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To: Kaslin

Obamanism is a worser cult.


53 posted on 05/21/2012 5:26:05 PM PDT by crosshairs
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To: Loud Mime

“Mormanism is just as silly as evangelical christianity. Believe and be saved!”
This includes Southern Baptist..........you dumb ass.

Lately it seems like i do not belong on this site,from some of the recent political/religious comments from members.

Seems like the site motto has been set aside by some..........Welcome to Free Republic, America’s exclusive site for God, Family, Country, Life & Liberty conservatives!


54 posted on 05/21/2012 5:58:09 PM PDT by tankrlm
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55 posted on 05/21/2012 6:13:02 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

I beleive there are MINOs, Mormons in name only. I can’t understand how any Mormon could be or vote for a democrat.


56 posted on 05/21/2012 8:32:28 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: vette6387; laweeks

V you might have a point if what L said was untrue.


57 posted on 05/21/2012 11:57:56 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Terry Mross

Reid is a temple mormon, only about 15% of lds reach that high level. He has received awards from BYU, for being a good example of what a mormon should be.


58 posted on 05/22/2012 12:08:26 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Loud Mime
I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus. Thomas Jefferson

If you don't like FR why are you here?

59 posted on 05/22/2012 12:17:13 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Michael Barnes

Bingo. One man’s theology is another man’s belly laugh.


60 posted on 05/22/2012 12:56:07 AM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: tankrlm

I have complained about the same things without dishing out ad hominem insults. Sorry to see you do that.


61 posted on 05/22/2012 6:31:14 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Bigotry is the enemy of conservatism - it will destroy this nation from both sides.)
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To: Loud Mime

Not only is your ignorance showing, so is your own bigotry.


62 posted on 05/22/2012 7:40:59 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Terry Mross
I beleive there are MINOs, Mormons in name only. I can’t understand how any Mormon could be or vote for a democrat.

Yes, like with all religions that has to be true. I am not Mormon though there is a large Mormon community where I live and many at work. They have always been decent and pleasant people to be around, in my experience, though there are far more than you might think on the left side of the political spectrum - and often that is a "marriage of convenience" for them, helping them advance professionally.

They really aren't so different from any other group in that. It's hard at times to see how so many Catholics can be democrats too...or Jewish people as well. But logic and human beings often mixes in a very individual manner.

63 posted on 05/22/2012 9:22:25 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: GeronL
I think the FLDS could easily be called a cult. As a whole I don’t know, but I don’t think it should be called Christianity.

While that is true, Flds is what the OLD MORMONism used to be; before they threw their god(s) under the bus in favor of statehood back in the 1890's.

64 posted on 05/22/2012 12:08:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: GeronL
I think the FLDS could easily be called a cult. As a whole I don’t know, but I don’t think it should be called Christianity.

Then hang around this MORMON threads and you WILL 'know' a LOT more than now!

And most of it will be coming from Official MORMON sources.

65 posted on 05/22/2012 12:09:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: GeronL
...around these...
66 posted on 05/22/2012 12:10:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ansel12
Mitt Romney actually, truly believes, and teaches, that he will become an actual God, and be worshiped as a deity.

Of COURSE!!

It is in the BOOK!! (one of them anyway...)


The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.

1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way leads to eternal lives; 26–27, The law is given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation are made to prophets and Saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

 


 

 16Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

 17For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.

 18And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.

 19And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.

 20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.

 21Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.

 22For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.

 23But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.

 24This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.

 25aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.


67 posted on 05/22/2012 12:13:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: vette6387
“The Happy Bigots With Mush Between Their Ears” Pot, Meet Kettle going down the Yellow Brick Road of Religious Bigotry.

I await your response...



Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

68 posted on 05/22/2012 12:15:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Kharis13
As a Bible-believing Christian...

Ah...

You are MORE than that!

You actually KNOW it and PRACTICE it's principles.

Many folks say they 'believe' the bible, and then can't answer even the most basic questions based upon it's teachings.

69 posted on 05/22/2012 12:17:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dragonblustar
Mormonism is a cult.



Smart folks KNOW that - the rest of us have to be TAUGHT it.

70 posted on 05/22/2012 12:20:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: raybbr
Can’t wait the read the comments from posters, who, in the past, have called Mormonism a cult.

Not 'called'; but SHOWN!



KJV
Galatians 1:6-9
6. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

 
ANYBODY???
Like this fine looking fellow???
 

2 Corinthians 11:12-15
12. But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 

Like THESE guys??
 
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
 


Ephesians 2:1-2
1. And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

71 posted on 05/22/2012 12:22:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Loud Mime

Sorry about the insult...........is smart ass better? :-).........no really i am sorry,but you should realize that such a broad negative statement about religion would have a negative effect on some.
Being an older Marine i sometimes forget to turn the other cheek,as a Baptist,i should have..........please accept my apology.


72 posted on 05/22/2012 12:25:18 PM PDT by tankrlm
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To: laweeks
And if you go to the huge shrine built to him in Salt Lake City, you'll find a statue of him lovingly looking at his darling wife (#1 with 42 more to follow). Kinda' humorous when you know what a philander he was.


 

Polygamy: How it all got Started


 
 
 
Joe: Hey Emma!   Guess what!?
 
Emma: You KNOW I hate these guessing games! What is it, Dear?
 
Joe: I heard a voice, probably the Lord, tell me I must take other wives.
 
Emma: WHAT!?   You ding bat!  Don't you KNOW what our precious BOOK says?   After all; YOU are the one that translated it!
 
Joe: Books; schmooks.   All I know is I've been COMMANDED to take other wives and you are to OBEY ME!!!
 
 
Emma:      "Though shalt NOT commit ADULTERY!!!"
 
 
Joe: Silly Woman!  You KNOW better than to take things out of CONTEXT!!!
 
 
 
 
 

 
...and the rest is HISTORY...
 

 
 
 
 
 
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
CHAPTER 2
 
  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
 

Or even HERE:
 

 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
 
 
1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
 
 
 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.



 
 
Emma: That's IT!   I'm LEAVING your sorry *!!!
 
Joe:  DARN you Emma; you were TOLD to accept this!!   Wait!!!   I hear a voice again!!!
 
 


 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
  51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
 
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.


73 posted on 05/22/2012 12:25:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

I do keep asking you not to use me to post your long cut and pastes to.


74 posted on 05/22/2012 12:26:05 PM PDT by ansel12 ( The first American vote for a man who believes that he will become literally God, an actual deity.)
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To: laweeks
And if you go to the huge shrine built to him in Salt Lake City, you'll find a statue of him lovingly looking at his darling wife (#1 with 42 more to follow). Kinda' humorous when you know what a philander he was.



75 posted on 05/22/2012 12:26:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Loud Mime
Pair me up with Thomas Jefferson in this argument.

Consider it done.

76 posted on 05/22/2012 12:27:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ansel12
I believe Jefferson was a regular church goer, I forget which Christian church he was a member of, you can look it up and join them, to start attending.

Might even find a sweet little honey to get on the side...

77 posted on 05/22/2012 12:29:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Terry Mross
I can’t understand how any Mormon could be or vote for a democrat.

Well, Harry said...

"I think it is much easier to be a good member of the Church and a Democrat than a good member of the Church and a Republican."


In a 2001 interview


78 posted on 05/22/2012 12:33:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Loud Mime
I have complained about the same things without dishing out ad hominem insults.

Stick with the IMpersonal ones. Less rancor that way.

Mormanism is just as silly as evangelical christianity.

79 posted on 05/22/2012 12:35:32 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

I don’t know what that means.


80 posted on 05/22/2012 12:35:32 PM PDT by ansel12 ( The first American vote for a man who believes that he will become literally God, an actual deity.)
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To: SZonian

Please explain


81 posted on 05/22/2012 9:02:07 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Bigotry is the enemy of conservatism - it will destroy this nation from both sides.)
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To: Elsie

Hey, Jeremiah Wright is not LDS. Love him?


82 posted on 05/22/2012 9:07:06 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Bigotry is the enemy of conservatism - it will destroy this nation from both sides.)
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To: Kaslin
Karl (Toyko) Rove: Bringing Up Rev Wright is 'Stupid'

NYT Reporter Goes To Romney's Church, Seeks Dirt From Worshipers

.

83 posted on 05/22/2012 9:30:29 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: ansel12

If one invokes a Founding Father as some sort of talisman; wouldn’t they have to take the whole package and not just pick and choose?

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_26_95/ai_54851954/


84 posted on 05/23/2012 4:34:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Loud Mime

Sure!

Like him?

Not so much.


85 posted on 05/23/2012 4:35:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Loud Mime
Hey, Jeremiah Wright is not LDS.

Hey MORMONs!

Keep this one on your radar for dead dunking in a few years.

86 posted on 05/23/2012 4:37:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elle Bee

Are you my long lost sister Mom always talked about?


87 posted on 05/23/2012 4:39:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

Talisman? Twisted stuff, so you side with the left on that myth and want to promote it to people.

You sure carry around a lot of angry baggage, I don’t know what has caused you to decide to bug me with it.


88 posted on 05/23/2012 9:43:19 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Yeah!!! Graybeard58 and wife, and their new kids!!!!!)
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To: ansel12

I don’t lay the eggs: I just color them.


89 posted on 05/23/2012 1:10:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

You have to go a long way to go to color that egg against Jefferson.


90 posted on 05/23/2012 2:59:23 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Yeah!!! Graybeard58 and wife, and their new kids!!!!!)
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To: ansel12; Graybeard58
Yeah!!! Graybeard58 and wife, and their new kids!!!!!)

Yup!

A very nice looking bunch of folks!!!

A long, stressful journey is over, and a new one begins.

91 posted on 05/24/2012 4:52:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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