Skip to comments.Stoll: Right To Leave U.S. Could Be Trumped by 30% Tax
Posted on 05/22/2012 6:50:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz
Call it the return of the Reichsfluchtsteuer.
I think Schumer can probably find the legislation to do this. It existed in Germany in the 1930s and Rhodesia in the 70s and in South Africa as well, Norquist said. He probably just plagiarized it and translated it from the original German.
The Reichsfluchsteuer, or Reich flight tax, that German government imposed on Jews trying to flee in the 1930s was 25 percent; Schumer and his Senate colleague Bob Casey, Democrat of Pennsylvania, want 30 percent. Give Schumer some credit for creativity.
According to Norquist, the New Yorker did not just plagiarize and translate. He also raised the rate. ....
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It doesn’t have to stop at individuals either, wait till they propose it for corporations as well. I remember a few years ago Microsoft was threatening to pack it all up and move to Vancouver.
That was my first thought. Not a large leap 'til they tell you where you can & cannot live.
The Reichsfluchsteuer, or Reich flight tax, that German government imposed on Jews trying to flee in the 1930s was 25 percent; Schumer and his Senate colleague Bob Casey, Democrat of Pennsylvania, want 30 percent.
amazing how history repeats itself, huh?
I am literally in shock that there are FReepers going along with this! Like the final act of Atlas Shrugged when they finally break down and torture John Galt demanding that he produce! This is unbelievable. It CAN happen here. It IS happening here!
A typical outcome of Communism. Ending freedom of anything is their ultimate goal to enslave populations.
None of the Communist-wanna-bes can possibly answer the question: can you give one example of where Communism succeeded?
I don’t know how your position differs from slavery. Maybe it’s slavery with an American flag on your lapel but it is slavery nonetheless.
The America you and I are proud of would never pass such laws.
It is time to starve the beast. The founding premise of America is that the individual is superior to the State.
Change that and you no longer have an America.
This is no longer the America we grew up with.
Traitors renounced their citizenship and left Germany.
If you approve of this sort of tax, you pretty much acknowledge that all of your property belongs to the government, and you just possess it until they decide to take it.
Don't get me wrong. I think Saverin has exposed himself as a man without a moral foundation. Who aspires to US citizenship and then renounces it? Eduardo Saverin, apparently. He's an international douche.
“I will never renounce nor consider renouncing my American citizenship.”
I agree with the sentiment of your statement, but this is not the America of my Grandfather, my father, or my youth.
I voluntarily fought in VN against the very idea that if you want to leave your country of birth you had to give the govt. your money, property, and sometimes your life.
Over 100 posts and no one has pointed out the we have a Republican Candidate running for nomination for President that warned us not too long ago that that wall could, and likely would, be used that way.
Miss him yet?
Perhaps in a few years after Romney throws the race to the Oba-Führer.
(Too bad Ron Paul is the only candidate we have, making such points.)
How about taxing the illegal aliens that enter the us before we start penalizing lawful acts by our own citizens? By the way these idiots dont know there already is an exit tax since 2008? And don’t forget Barbara Boxers bill rider to suspend passports if you owe IRS over a 50k...
Remember everyone mocked Ron Paul in the debate for saying he was against a border wall since it would be used to keep us in?
Looks like he was right, AGAIN!
” None of the Communist-wanna-bes can possibly answer the question: can you give one example of where Communism succeeded? “
They just want to be dictators. I doubt they believe communism works.
So if the military is all voluntary, then patriotism is dead. Good to know.
“Traitors renounce their citizenship and leave the USA..”
Good one Joe, America was founded by “traitors” who renounced their citizenship and left England.
Thou shalt not covet
(to desire wrongfully, inordinately, or without due regard for the rights of others: to covet another’s property.)
(Synonyms - aspire to, begrudge, choose, crave, desiderate, envy, fancy, hanker for, have eye on, have hots for, itch for, long for, lust after, spoil for, thirst for, want, wish for, yearn for, yen for)
Thou shalt not covet (or envy).
Boehner is by far the worst we have. He appears to be on Obama’s side.
When I was a young man conservatives despised Americans who renounced their citizenship, and wished them all kinds of ill fortune.
Lennon wins—”Imagine there’s no countries, It isn’t hard to do, Nothing to kill or die for, And no religion too”
When you were a young man you probably weren’t living in a fledgling socialist state with an out of control government bleeding everything that moves dry either. The facebook guy who sparked this controversy by renouncing his citizenship simply “went Galt” ... on steroids.
The guy is scum, he should be forbidden to ever come here again.
Lots of my clients, Jews, are alive because their parents and grandparents saw the writing on the wall in Europe in the 1930s and came to America.
Second....when the government begins systematically violating your rights, you no longer have an obligation to it.
Ask yourself this: If you were George Zimmerman, would you want to live in a country that tolerates a death bounty on you? Sends the entire .gov apparatus after you because of a flawed, racially-motivated, social/political ideology? I wouldn't.......
There are certain triggers that would cause me and my family to leave the United States, but we are not there yet....but Senator Schumer is bringing us one step closer to the balloon going up.
Being a prudent citizen, and a father/husband, I will do anything to protect my family from harm, even leaving my homeland. I would rather fight for it first, with blood if necessary, but ALWAYS have the capabililty to flee a danger zone....with a passport and a "inch bag" (I'm never coming home) bag in case it gets REAL BAD.
Trust me....and just look at history, you DO NOT EVER, EVER want to become a asset-less, non-protected refugee, that is being hunted or persecuted by a government entity, ever.
One might consider that position as a mamufactured slur against Jews.
Heck, I didn't say it Vet, the Bible did...twice!
This post sure got some sad comments. Quite a few statists here...more than I thought.
The country needs folks who will fight for it, just as we did back in the day, we are at war and at this point I have little confidence we will ultimately win.
If folks are too chicken sh*t to stay fight for the country as US citizens but will renounce their citizenship and will turn tail and run I have no use for them.
The enemies of America are on the left and on on the right its a sad fact that Americans should never forget.
“I dont know how your position differs from slavery”
Apparently you know nothing about slavery.
But folks who would renounce their American citizenship are nothing more than illegal aliens at that point and deserve none of the protections they formally had as American citizens.
damed right too. Git out before they kill you.
American colleges and universities.
You seem to be the only one that gets it.
This is nothing about Facebook. It's all about its being a necessary first step to where the Administration wants to go next: confiscation of all private savings into Social Security in exchange for what amounts to an IOU.
It's about taking the IRA's, guys.
I say again, they've got something up their sleeve. Argentina confiscated private savings accounts in 2008; these guys have got to be looking at that, and Boehner's making all the wrong noises!
We need a new speaker pronto.
That's an old gimmick that is the cornerstone of totalitarianism; it was already old when Diocletian borrowed the idea from the temple priests of Egypt in 305AD, and made it the new governing idea of the Empire.
It turned the Western Empire, where people still had the impulse for freedom, into a cashless desert, where every coin went into the ground, either into land or into hidden caches. The East became an empire of slaves, and Diocletian's government prepared them for the Turks.
The trick is, the ruler strikes a pose: "I am going to get my impost/labor-levy/crop-share no matter what happens. The only question is, am I going to get it from these guys, or am I going to get it from you, you, and you?"
Knowing who everyone is, and where they live, and how much they have -- in other words, total awareness of the ruled -- is the enabling knowledge, and force the enabling motivator. Turning the victims against one another with the cross-assignment of responsibility guarantees that the whole scheme will work.
Oh, yeah? Who granted you your Ph.D.? The government of Albania?
Remember Bill Ayers never repudiated his 25,000,000 remark. And Obozo has never repudiated him>.
“Oh, yeah? Who granted you your Ph.D.?”
Same folks that gave you a brain..
>>On April 7, 2011, Peter Dunn raised his right hand before a U.S. consular officer in Toronto and swore that he understood the consequences of giving up his U.S. citizenship. Dunn, a dual U.S.-Canadian citizen who has lived outside the United States since 1986, says he renounced because he felt American citizenship had become more of a liability than a privilege.<<
IIRC, it was Edward Gibbon who noted that for centuries, republican Roman citizenship was jewel of incomprehensible value. Fast forward to the late empire, and it was burden best cast off. When the whole rotting thing came crashing down, few loved it enough to cry.
Boehner certainly Made the wrong noise. Get rid of him
I was thinking of something a bit more private. No need to cut the government in on the fun part.