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Just An Ordinary Day In May
Vanity | May 22, 2012 | scotsman

Posted on 05/22/2012 9:59:08 AM PDT by Scotsman

Well, it seems as though we've screwed the pooch.

It's a safe bet that about 99% of the American public do not realize that what is about to happen will forever change the way they live and how they interact with the higher functions of society. In other words, how they will acquire and use any product or service that they can not provide immediately for themselves and their family.

Most people have heard of Black Holes - a favorite mega-disaster staple in SiFi movies and stories. Not so many are aware of the term, "Event Horizon". The event horizon of a black hole can be thought of as an invisible sphere with the black hole at the center of it.

Sounds very harmless, but it is the physical universe's version of the "KEEP OUT! Violaters will be Shot!" sign. The problem with the event horizon that makes it so dangerous is that very simply, once one crossed the event horizon of a Black Hole, there is no return. Even light cannot escape the gravitational pull of the Black Hole. Everything that crosses it is destined and doomed to fall into it - there is NO comming back, once the Event Horizon has been crossed.

Over the last several decades, predominantly over the last three, the entire world financial system has been building up debt to pay for goods and services that government delivered but could not completely pay for out of revenues received coincident with the excess spending. In the United States alone that overspending versus revenue received totals about 15.5 Trillion dollars and growing by about a Trillion dollars a year, give or take a few hundred billion or so.

Have your eyes glazed over yet? Probably. The numbers are so large as to be simply incomprehensible to 99% of the American, and the World population.

In 2008, hindsight being 20/20 and all that, the last good opportunity to save the current system went horribly wrong. As a direct consequence of the actions taken in late Summer of 2008 and on into 2009, not only was the system not saved, it was further damaged by the insuing distruction of Contract Law in several areas - General Motors and the all-encompassing "Foreclosuregate" are just two examples of the wholesale violations of contract law, including frauds perpetrated upon the Courts by most of the banking system.

And that is just in this country.

Other countries are already having their sovergnity challenged and infringed upon by others - Greece is just the most glaring example for now.

There is now only one way to end this. It will not be 'solved' or 'fixed' by any more stick saves from central banks. Each round of Quantative Easing has had less and less positive effect and the net result has been real inflation in excess of the 'official' number, whatever that may be, that each one of us experiences every time we spend money, anywhere.

Bad debt of all sorts is being forced up the capital chain, with the central banks taking more of it in every day. In Spain, Bankia has found itself the bagholder of hundreds of billions of euros worth of bad mortgages and will have to be bailed out by the Spanish central bank or an entity of the European Union, or worse, the International Monetary Fund. Our Federal Reserve has the same type of bad dept piling up on it's balance sheet, to the tune of about three trillion dollars and growing daily.

Governments throughout the world are feverishly working on 'continuity of government' plans - how do we keep society polite and maintain effective control of a functioning government WHEN the capital markets lock up completely and bank runs go out of control. Greece, Italy and Spain are experiencing this as we speak.

Every paragraph above could be expanded into pages of detail and analysis, and it will all enevitably lead to massive debt repudiation and the destruction (bankruptcy strictly enforced) of ALL the major money-center banks - the one's with the greatest exposure to uncollectable debt of any sort. Here in the United States that means that the five largest financial institutions, Goldman Sachs, J P Morgan Chase, Bank of America and a couple of others will not survive, in any form we recognize today.

This will happen throughout the World Financial System, and the only hope is that governments will be able to maintain societal stability and not decend into some form or variation of anarchy.

How far down the capital chain the debt repudiation goes will depend upon politicians and bankers, and how tumultous their individual societies become. Moral Hazard will be discussed regarding the wiping out of government debt worldwide and the countries that attempt to repudiate their debt without also eliminating the private debt of it's citizens will have a much more dificult time with their native populations.

When will all this take place?

Well, therein lies the problem for individuals attempting to get ahead of this. Maybe this will help you out, a little:

The problem with event horizons is that one never knows for sure that they have crossed one, until they already have.

This otherwise normal day in May, because the greatest experts, the smartest guys in the room, can not or will not declare it - this day in May ...

... we have crossed that Event Horizon and there is no coming back to what was 'normal' or of preventing the ultimate debt repudiation cycle and whatever various sorts of chaos that await us in the very near future.

One last little footnote, or point for further discussion, if you will: Consider the import of this process being set in place before November.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; FReeper Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crash; crashcoming; crisis; economy; housing; obama; traitors; vanity
The odds of something very near to this happening before November are greater than zero. You will have to pick your own odds ... :)
1 posted on 05/22/2012 9:59:11 AM PDT by Scotsman
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To: Kartographer

over here...


2 posted on 05/22/2012 10:03:27 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!

Interesting Vanity post by a fellow FReeper.


3 posted on 05/22/2012 10:12:49 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Scotsman
The evidence is freely avilable...

And a personal effort... Incremental Change in GDP VS Domestic Debt
<1 indicates a Negative ROI on Injected Capital
Utterly unsustainable


4 posted on 05/22/2012 10:14:34 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Kartographer

You either prepare and stand on your own beholden to no one or you become dependent on others to provide your basic needs and become thier‘serf’. Me I don’t want to be beholden to anyone for providing what is needed for me and mine. I certainly don’t want to have to kiss some ‘gubberment’ third class bureaucratic to try and coax some help from them, I don’t want some ‘jack booted’ thug herding me in line and telling me where to stand, sit, eat or sleep. And last but not least I don’t want to be shut up in with a bunch of ‘zombies’ and have to worry about not only trying to get basic necessities but having to fight to keep what I manage to get.

Now anyone thinking that prepping is foolish ask you what’s easier telling your children and loved ones why you prepared or explaining to them why you didn’t?

But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever. 1 Timothy 5:8

But then someone has to stand on the bridge waiting for FEMA to bring them a bottle of water, an MRE and a warm blanket so as to provide the Network Anchors their background ‘Money Shot’. I wonder how that will workout for them?

Face it we’ve kicked the financial can so far down the road that we are running out of road and the can which was once the size of a soda can is now the size of an oil drum (Try kicking that!)

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf

NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

Lastly this for the doubters and the scoffers.

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.

Underestimation can be fatal.”


5 posted on 05/22/2012 10:14:50 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Scotsman

Next stop: Spaghettification.


6 posted on 05/22/2012 10:23:05 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1218 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
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To: appalachian_dweller

Haven’t seen you in a coon’s age! How are you?


7 posted on 05/22/2012 10:40:32 AM PDT by kimmie7 (I do not think BO is the antichrist, but he may very well be 665.)
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To: kimmie7

Hi Kimmie. I’m doing okay. You?


8 posted on 05/22/2012 10:57:27 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: Scotsman; ex-Texan; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; ...

END TIMES PING LIST PING

FINANCIAL BLACK HOLE . . .


9 posted on 05/22/2012 11:49:28 AM PDT by Quix (Time is short: INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Scotsman
"Other countries are already having their sovergnity challenged and infringed upon by others - Greece is just the most glaring example for now."

Do we normally respect and uphold "sovereignty" for thieves? No. We don't respect empire, either.

Our US debt regime is not dependent on little, kleptocratic debt regimes of southern Europe. Those places will return to getting what they produce.

Our US debt regime is caused by the social (fascist) politics of an influx of antithetical Europeans over more than 100 years--those who've countered the purpose of early America's first groups of settlers (Puritans, Huguenots, early Presbyterians, Sephardim, all). Our US debt regime is its own and will see its own consequences.

Oil will continue up in the long run, BTW, and the dollar, down. A currency will follow its volume of production of real and useful goods.


10 posted on 05/22/2012 11:52:17 AM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Scotsman

“Every paragraph above could be expanded into pages of detail and analysis, and it will all enevitably lead to massive debt repudiation and the destruction (bankruptcy strictly enforced) of ALL the major money-center banks - the one’s with the greatest exposure to uncollectable debt of any sort. Here in the United States that means that the five largest financial institutions, Goldman Sachs, J P Morgan Chase, Bank of America and a couple of others will not survive, in any form we recognize today. This will happen throughout the World Financial System, and the only hope is that governments will be able to maintain societal stability and not decend into some form or variation of anarchy.”

I haven’t been one to think martial law would surely happen, but if the banks above had to close, the rest would, too. That could easily bring about martial law in order to try to control the chaos brought about by people not being able to get money. If it happened before the Nov. election, there might not be an election and I haven’t been one to think the election wouldn’t happen.

Not much is said on prep threads about having cash in the house. I have taken care of that and everyone should. After Ike came thourgh my area, there was no cash to be had since power was down. So, the possibility of hurricanes and power loss caused me to always have cash stored somewhere on my property so I could get to it.

Preppers should think about banks being closed for whatever reason and prepare for that event. Have smaller bills and change, not larger bills, and put it where no one knows where it is except you and spouse.


11 posted on 05/22/2012 11:57:57 AM PDT by Marcella (Romney: God wouldn't vote for Romney so I won't, either.)
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To: Kartographer; Scotsman
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2885508/posts?page=16#16

Note entire thread and read between the lines and please open your ears

12 posted on 05/22/2012 11:58:55 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: Scotsman
"Governments throughout the world are feverishly working on 'continuity of government' plans - how do we keep society polite and maintain effective control of a functioning government WHEN the capital markets lock up completely and bank runs go out of control."

Layoffs of enormous numbers of useless government employees, and a good way to start would be with stopping all federal funding to locales ("pork"). That will happen either sooner with government willingness or later with unwillingness.

First, bond investors will take "haircuts." Then, all other recipient of government incomes will take haircuts. Otherwise, only a little later, a complete shutdown of some duration, while favored constituent groups (all equally guilty) fight each other for larger portions. Then, a start-up of very small and old fashioned government (not enough production of useful items to do any more, regardless of inflation or deflation).

Have fun. Enjoy the slide. We're not far from the part where the political/regulator class loses its time and money for controlling politicians, bureaucrats and their supporting/controlling NIMBYs.


13 posted on 05/22/2012 12:08:16 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Quix
Thanks for the ping, Quix.

Things are moving right along, just as we were told they would, and these things have to happen for the one-world economic system to come into place.

That fact doesn't make it any easier to watch, but we know what the end to the story is and that's the only way we can endure what's happening.

14 posted on 05/22/2012 12:22:23 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta (In the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: Quix; All
I know what is happening

Looky Looky

No big mystery here but the time to wake up is long over

15 posted on 05/22/2012 12:51:35 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: ex-Texan

Glad to see you’re back from your earlier sabbatical.


16 posted on 05/22/2012 1:33:31 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Scotsman

Howdy, Scotty!!

One thing I know is true. Government is not the solution. At least not in its present form. Government is the problem. Obama is a Marxist. Romney is a Keynesian crony capitalist who approves of bailouts and stimulus spending and claims more will be necessary. Both think it’s the purpose of government to control the economy.

Pray for a return to constitutionally limited government.

The founders had it right in that regard.


17 posted on 05/22/2012 2:37:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: ex-Texan

bfl


18 posted on 05/22/2012 3:29:15 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: Quix

This is why a “mark of the beast” will be necessary and accepted. No amount of preparation can prevent one from needing that “mark” to buy or sell. We just have to trust Jehovah-Jireh for absolutely everything, now and for tomorrow, and however long He leaves us here to do His will. There is no one more faithful than Jesus Christ. I don’t want to ever deny Him. God help us.

Revelation 13:
14 He deceives those who live on the earth because of the signs that he is permitted to perform on behalf of the beast, telling those who live on the earth to make an image of the beast who had the sword wound and yet lived. 15 He was permitted to give a spirit to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast could both speak and cause whoever would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 And he requires everyone—small and great, rich and poor, free and slave—to be given a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark: the beast’s name or the number of his name.


19 posted on 05/22/2012 5:04:30 PM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: .30Carbine

Amen, my friend... Amen.


20 posted on 05/22/2012 5:15:09 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: Scotsman

I am gobsmacked by this entire thread for several reasons! Thanks for the post and your obvious acute insight Scotsman.


21 posted on 05/22/2012 5:36:31 PM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ex-Texan

You were hitting the bullseye years ago, I knew it then, whatever the attackers said to the contrary.


22 posted on 05/22/2012 6:05:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: ex-Texan; null and void

Nully - take a look at ex-Texan’s “Looky Looky” link and the comment it refers to!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


23 posted on 05/22/2012 6:07:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Scotsman

There is a way out for the US: we can produce enough real wealth to offest the debt. How? We have more than enough rught under Federally owned land, in the form of oil and coal. Not only should we not spend a penny on overseas sources of energy, we should be the world’s largest exporter. The US Geological Survey just put out a report detailing the vast amounts of oil shale in the US. In one area known as the Green River formation, there are 3 trillion barrels of oil. About a third is concentrated in relatively small areas of federal land. It’s estimated with oil at $100 a barrel Between 30-60% of that could be recoverd. Assuming the midpoint is correct, that’s $45 trillion in oil. The only thing we need is the political will to push aside the global warming scammers and do it.


24 posted on 05/22/2012 6:13:41 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Brad's Gramma

I second that amen!


25 posted on 05/22/2012 6:24:50 PM PDT by hope
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To: .30Carbine; Brad's Gramma

Well put.

Thx thx.


26 posted on 05/22/2012 8:20:10 PM PDT by Quix (Time is short: INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


27 posted on 05/22/2012 8:25:18 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Scotsman

Nice job!


28 posted on 05/23/2012 6:55:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The so-called 'mainstream' media has gone from "biased" straight to "utterly surreal".)
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To: Jim Robinson
Top ‘o the morning to you, Jim!

Neither choice we have in November is going to do anything more than continue the debt/inflation cycle with as many different sorts of QE as can be imagined. And that is the best case scenario.

Events, domestic and foreign, that should have been managed from the Oval Office over the past three and a half years (some longer) weren't, and that is on the shoulders of the current occupant, who apparently doesn't have the good sense to run from a burning building and call the fire department. Those events are now out of control, and while additional QE will be attempted (if there's time), ultimately the next person to hold the office of President will have to deal with the debt repudiation cycle.

Like it or not, there's two reasons I will vote for the left mitten ...

... he is an American and he will have the good sense to leave a burning building, economically speaking.

There are other reasons too, of course.

I just can not think of them right now.

However within the context of my post, mittens has more of the personal characteristics and real-world experience needed now.

For instance, of the two, which one do you want managing the Middle East War, the collapse of the European political/financial system, civil unrest here in our inner cities for certain, and the Washington Correspondent's Dinner?

Sorry for the late reply, Jim. I don't normally post and run - begorrah, I don't normally post ... :)

Best to you and yours from a 20 square mile, easily defensible area of a state that might not be a state in a country that might not be a country, with water and gas wells, thriving game population, agriculture and a self-sufficient, small population base.

The anarchists will run out of fuel in the first few days and none of them are in shape to hike the miles they'd have to, should the ‘smartest guys in the room’ suddenly discover they're not and loose control.

:)

29 posted on 05/23/2012 8:25:54 AM PDT by Scotsman
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30 posted on 05/23/2012 8:40:39 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Quix; Alamo-Girl; M. Espinola; whitedog57; stephenjohnbanker; blam
Reasons for building all the freaking concentration camps:

Gerald Celete -- Apocalypse Now. The System is Falling Apart (World Economy, Iran, China, USD)

A Freaking Man Made Designer Flu Is Coming

Very good excuses to use all those those thousands of Looky Looky final salute devices in storage all over the U.S. that I mentioned earlier in # 15

LOL !

32 posted on 05/23/2012 4:51:40 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: Brilliant; Quix; Alamo-Girl; M. Espinola; whitedog57; stephenjohnbanker; blam
News Blackout as Obama Designates John Brennan as the Sole Person in Charge of Designating People to be Assassinated
33 posted on 05/23/2012 10:54:23 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: familyop
familyop, at the top of the capital chain, there is no difference between ‘sovereign’ and ‘unsecured’ debt.

All government debt throughout the world is ‘unsecured’ - what is the ‘full faith and credit’ of a sovereign government that can not pay it's debt? What, then, is the debt of that sovereign worth to an investor?

When that happens, the government bonds already issued and held by investors begin to fall in current cash value (what it can be sold for today versus the originally paid issue price) and that government finds itself having to pay interest rates on newly issued 10 year bonds that make your 29.99% credit card look like free money.

Take a look at the Greek, Portugese, Spanish and Italian 10 year bond rates - the higher the interest, the more trouble the country is in.

Conversely, the United States and German 10 year bonds are trading at or near all time record low interest rates. For now.

Further explanation of the reasons for the US 10 year being where it is can be found in a post I made on September 11, 2011 -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2776797/posts

So far, I've seen nothing since that post to cause me to change anything in it.

The Greeks are not thieves, but their sovereign government is bankrupt.

“Our US debt regime is not dependent on little, kleptocratic debt regimes of southern Europe”, but it is dependent on the world's largest financial institutions, and we are going to loose some, part, or all of them before this is over.

:)

35 posted on 05/24/2012 8:24:45 AM PDT by Scotsman
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To: houeto

Thank you. :)


36 posted on 05/24/2012 8:29:29 AM PDT by Scotsman
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To: Lazamataz

Thanks, Laz ... :)


37 posted on 05/24/2012 8:31:36 AM PDT by Scotsman
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