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Dad saves boy before car plunges down cliff -- and gets pair of Traffic tickets
Foxnews ^ | 5/21/12 | Greg Wilson

Posted on 05/22/2012 3:19:07 PM PDT by KansasGirl

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To: KansasGirl

After reading a lot of the comments I have to ask WTF is wrong with you people? Let’s at least take the dad’s story at face value till proven otherwise. I’m sure if it were your kid I would at least hope you’d rather have your car in the drink than your kid splattered at the bottom of a cliff. I’m glad so many people here have perfect little angels and perfect little lives and have life’s sudden events totally prepared for and would know what to do exactly the second something random comes up.


61 posted on 05/23/2012 4:02:37 AM PDT by eak3
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To: napscoordinator

“He was pretty stupid. Well deserved ticket. Probably should have been arrested. How much fuel and other stuff will go into the stream?”

Couldn’t agree more.\s
The life of a child is surely not worth a good car and FOR SURE not worth the possibility some fuel and stuff might get into the water and pollute Mother Earth.\s


62 posted on 05/23/2012 6:57:30 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (There are people who don't like Obama? Well, there were those didn't like Hitler either.)
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To: KansasGirl

This country has in large part gone insane.


63 posted on 05/23/2012 7:03:10 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Let's Party like it's 1860! - www.SelfGovernment.US)
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To: KansasGirl

“To Protect and Serve”...

Yup. Uh huh...sure.


64 posted on 05/23/2012 9:15:03 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

A 5-year-old may be properly trained one minute and may act extremely UNTRAINED the next. Have you been around children? LOL


65 posted on 05/23/2012 9:40:56 AM PDT by madison10 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. TJ)
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To: KansasGirl

Save your child, and not your vehicle? The Agent of the State is here to punish you, Serf!

Save your vehicle, and not your child? The Agent of the State will arrest you, Serf!


66 posted on 05/23/2012 10:04:53 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: madison10
I have been around children of all ages for many years and I think it's sad that so many people aren't competent enough to control a five-year-old.

But again, that's what natural selection is all about.

BTW, I find the headline to be laughable. Dad saves boy? How about:

Idiot Almost Gets Son Killed


67 posted on 05/23/2012 10:44:06 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The best diplomat I know is a fully-activated phaser bank. - Montgomery Scott)
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To: eak3
Let’s at least take the dad’s story at face value

At face value the guy failed to control both his child and his car. His negligence nearly cost his son injury or death.

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have life’s sudden events totally prepared for and would know what to do exactly the second something random comes up.

It wasn't random at all. It was totally predictable. Kids jumping out of cars into dangerous situations is a common danger that comes up every time a kid goes for a car ride. It is the parent's job to make sure that doesn't happen.

68 posted on 05/23/2012 11:12:41 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The best diplomat I know is a fully-activated phaser bank. - Montgomery Scott)
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To: OrangeHoof

Typical of NJ...


69 posted on 05/23/2012 11:16:30 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes mandatory.” Thomas Jefferson)
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To: VRWC For Truth

That cop lacked basic human compassion. The man nearly lost his son.

But, when you let yourself become a tax collector instead of a peace officer, I suppose it’s understandable to view citizens as cash cows ready for milking.


70 posted on 05/23/2012 5:03:29 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: eak3

Same here. Many of these comments are appalling.


71 posted on 05/23/2012 5:40:57 PM PDT by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: publana

I guarantee that every parent here has made mistakes in their parenting, and I bet each parent here would want more compassion shown to him/her if each saw his/her beloved child running towards the edge of a cliff, and he/she instinctively left the car to preserve the life of the child.


72 posted on 05/23/2012 8:11:34 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: napscoordinator

I’m thinking that the cop should have performed a sobriety test on the genius.


73 posted on 05/24/2012 12:30:35 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The best diplomat I know is a fully-activated phaser bank. - Montgomery Scott)
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To: Altariel
The man nearly lost killed his son.
74 posted on 05/24/2012 12:35:48 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The best diplomat I know is a fully-activated phaser bank. - Montgomery Scott)
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To: Jeff Chandler

No, he saved his son’s life.

A man who beats his son so that he nearly dies nearly kills his son.

Why do you lack compassion, or even empathy, for this man? What do you think you have to prove?


75 posted on 05/24/2012 8:46:42 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Jeff Chandler

One day when you make a mistake, could you do a press release so we all realize you are not a god?


76 posted on 05/24/2012 9:08:19 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Altariel

Words have meaning. This man was responsible for his son. Because of his negligence he was forced to decide between his son or his car. He chose well, but that does not make him a hero.

An analogy would be a man out for a walk with his 5-year-old son. The man jaywalks across a busy boulevard with his son trailing several feet behind him. At the last second he realizes that a car is about to strike his son and snatches his son out of the way. In both cases the man could have chosen to fulfill his responsibility as a parent but failed to do so. In this case, he could have held his son’s hand and crossed at the light. In the actual case, he could have kept the kid in the car until it was properly parked. In neither case is he a hero. He did not “save” his son, rather he managed to avoid getting his his son killed though his negligence.

It’s really quite simple but emotion seems to trump reality for a lot of folks.


77 posted on 05/24/2012 10:06:06 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The best diplomat I know is a fully-activated phaser bank. - Montgomery Scott)
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To: Tennessean4Bush
One day when you make a mistake, could you do a press release so we all realize you are not a god?

Oh, I make plenty of mistakes. Mrs. Chandler can attest to that. But I own up to mine and don't whine about getting a bum deal when the consequences arrive.

By the why, I don't allow passengers to exit my vehicle before it's in park. Do you? That's pretty fundamental.

78 posted on 05/24/2012 10:10:02 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The best diplomat I know is a fully-activated phaser bank. - Montgomery Scott)
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To: Jeff Chandler

You analogy fails. Jaywalking is illegal (in most places in the U.S. of which I am aware).

Parking a car is not.

He looks for a safe place to park the car, Junior is excited about the outing and pops out of the car eagerly, and Daddy quickly realizes that Junior has chosen to make a beeline for the cliff’s edge.

Kids do unpredictable things. No parent can 100% predict 100% of the time what dangerous activity their kid will decide “sounds like a good idea” at that moment.

He realized his kid was in danger. He saved his son. He rectified a bad situation.

That’s what men do. That’s what fathers do. If they make a mistake / bad judgment, they FIX it.

That’s what he did. He realize he miscalculated what his son WOULD do in that instance and protected his son from the consequences of a deadly application of the Law of Gravity.

The question remains: why don’t you have compassion or empathy on this man, an imperfect father, just like you?

Why are you determined to tear him down? Do you suppose that in doing so, you build yourself up?


79 posted on 05/24/2012 11:06:07 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

Kids being impulsive is 100% predictable. He had just taught the boy how to unbuckle his belt. I guess he left out the part about not jumping out of the car without permission.

I don’t need to tear him down, the pic of his car speaks for itself, lol!

The analogy was about safety and his responsibility to watch his kid. He failed to do so and it was his own fault his car ended up in the drink. It wasn’t something that just happened to him. It was his own fault. He is the parent. He is spposed to be in control.

My kids knew who the boss was and we didn’t allow them to exit without permission. Same with our kid’s children. We know plenty of couples who have large families and none of their kids would dare jump out of the car without permission.

No, this guy causes the problem by failing to control the kid then whines like a baby about it. He should man up and accept the consequenses


80 posted on 05/24/2012 11:22:42 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The best diplomat I know is a fully-activated phaser bank. - Montgomery Scott)
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