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Hawaii verifies Obama's birth records to Arizona (update on Posse w/Okubo)
SFGate ^ | May 22, 2012 | OSKAR GARCIA

Posted on 05/22/2012 10:28:04 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

The state of Hawaii has verified President Barack Obama's birth records to Arizona's elections chief after a nearly three-month back and forth that Arizona officials said could have ended without the incumbent's name on its November ballot.

Joshua Wisch, special assistant to Hawaii Attorney General David Louie, told The Associated Press late Tuesday that the matter is resolved after Hawaii gave Arizona the verification it was looking for.

Arpaio said health officials in Hawaii refused to talk to his deputy and posse investigator on Monday, though an assistant attorney general came out to talk to the investigators.

"They won't have anything to do with us," Arpaio said.

Janice Okubo, spokeswoman for the Hawaii State Department of Health, said two men dressed in business suits from Arpaio's department sat down with deputies from the health department and attorney general's office in a conference room Monday.

The men identified themselves as being from the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office and provided their badges and business cards when asked, Okubo said.

"They said they were conducting an investigation," Okubo said.

Okubo said the Hawaii officials told the men they had to show why they needed the information as part of ordinary business — a response similar to that given to Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett last week when he publicly pushed his request to verify Obama's birth.

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To: a fool in paradise
I work as a graphic designer and have been in the industry since 1990. I don't do a lot of reconstructive work, however, and I couldn't figure out how that "halo" ended up around all the lettering in that BC.

The other day, someone sent me a scan of a signature that they needed on a transparent background so they could place it on a document with a different colored background. First, I went into Photoshop and adjusted the contrast so that the off-white color of the original scan's background was pure white and the lettering as black as I could make it and still look "real." Then I just used the background eraser and removed all the white background from around the letters. Then I placed the signature on a black background to make sure I got all the white specs and voila! white halo around all the lettering. I readjusted the contrast so the halo wasn't glaringly obvious and hey, as they say... Good Enough for Government Work. It took all of 5 minutes. If I had wanted to work on it for another hour, I would have adjusted the tolerance on the Eraser tool and pulled that halo away even more. But I figured... if it's good enough for the President, it's good enough for this guy.

51 posted on 05/23/2012 8:16:53 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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52 posted on 05/23/2012 8:26:56 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Seizethecarp

IMO, unless and until they prove Obama’s father was a true American citizen, at the time of Barry’s birth (regardless of where this fraud was born), he is NOT a NBC, and is therefore ineligible to hold the office he currently holds!!!!!


53 posted on 05/23/2012 8:32:53 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: svcw
...honestly I could not understand what was verified...

Keep in mind that this is from the Sodomcisco "news"paper, so utter incoherence is par for the course.

54 posted on 05/23/2012 8:39:22 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: Seizethecarp

One must be a natural born citizen to be the president of the United States. A natural born citizen is one who is born of two citizen parents.

Minor... is precedent
Ark ......is dicta

And Obama is still not qualified.


55 posted on 05/23/2012 8:47:20 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: Lucky9teen
Just this month the author of the new book “Dreams from my REAL Father,” IIRC, claims that he found the nudie pics of a woman resembling Barry's mom in the personal files of Frank Marshall Davis, natural born citizen from Kansas and KGB operative...

This circumstantial evidence is much stronger for FMD being the dad than any claimed link to BHO Sr. to date, IMO.

On the other hand, a picture from about 1972 of Barry's claimed dead half-brother, David at age 2 or 3 looked very much like little Barry supposedly did at that age.

56 posted on 05/23/2012 8:47:30 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: W. W. SMITH
“And Obama is still not qualified.”

Which BC for Barry are you relying on to back up your assertion?

I haven't seen one that I am willing to rely on.

57 posted on 05/23/2012 8:49:40 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: advertising guy

I’ve lost all respect for Barry Young, as well as the other radio personalities on KFYI, for that very reason.

It IS a legitimate issue and it IS a SERIOUS concern. To make fun of people, questioning the authenticity of Obama and his past, when he’s spent millions hiding it....it’s something becoming of a liberal. They are attacking “their own” and it’s truly pathetic. They don’t even question it themselves, which makes them stupid on top of it.

I guess that’s why I like Limbaugh, in that he never makes fun of anyone who believes or questions it...he just questions it himself, but without giving away what he believes. He’s able to keep neutral without disparaging anyone in the process. That is respect. IMO


58 posted on 05/23/2012 8:50:39 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: jarofants

When I got a passport I had to submit an original BC, with the official government stamp.
How did BHO get a pass port, with only a CLB?


59 posted on 05/23/2012 8:52:01 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Lucky9teen

my dumbass is listenin....two points...Barry is arrogant beyond belief and the so far...callers are ill prepared


60 posted on 05/23/2012 8:52:55 AM PDT by advertising guy ( Slo Joe Biden " I promise you the President has a big stick, but Michelle's is bigger ")
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To: Seizethecarp
"...the verification it was looking for"

Ok. What was it?

61 posted on 05/23/2012 8:53:02 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: Seizethecarp

Don’t need either one.

His book states his father is Obama Sr a non US citizen.
His own words, has stated many times, Obama Sr is my father.
State department records showing Obama Sr as a non US citizen.
Divorce papers showing Obama Sr as a non US citizen.
Deportation order for one Barrack Obama Sr.

Still others.... but that’s enough.


62 posted on 05/23/2012 9:02:48 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: ponygirl

The press insists that there is no trick photography at play.

Except they completely ignore that we have ALREADY SEEN SUCH EFFORTS when the Democrats cooked up phony “National Guard memos” with a photocopied signature photoshopped onto a bogus Word typed document and then faxed to AP and CBS.

We are onto their tricks. Until they fess up on the wrongs we already know they have done, we cannot trust them. The are a criminal organization (the media colludes with the DNC to concoct daily talking points like 2006’s “culture of corruption” meme about 2 homosexual Republicans).


63 posted on 05/23/2012 9:04:11 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama has cut and run from what he called "the right war".)
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To: a fool in paradise

Remember ‘gravitas’?


64 posted on 05/23/2012 9:13:10 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Seizethecarp
"It's not immediately clear whether the information will satisfy [Arizona Secretary of State Ken] Bennett. Bennett spokesman Matthew Roberts said the office received the verification and planned to comment Wednesday."

Fox News "Latino" (whatever that is, Mexican?). Anyone have the American Fox News version?

65 posted on 05/23/2012 9:36:07 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Regardless of the views on this people may have, one thing is very clear. There was a time in Hawaii that it was very easy to say someone was born there, I understand a sworn statement by parents was enough.


66 posted on 05/23/2012 9:46:02 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: svcw

“How did BHO get a pass port, with only a CLB?”

I think the only possibility is that Obama’s current US Passport is a forgery, just like the rest of his American documentation.


67 posted on 05/23/2012 10:20:23 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Seizethecarp

A TRUE COPY of what is actually on file is what we want to see. “verification” and BS both walk. I want to see a Hawaiian put his name on the line where is says “true and correct copy”-—————


68 posted on 05/23/2012 11:00:05 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: SuzyQueIN

In January of 2011, Abercrombie said there were no records of this in Hawaii. Wonder what happened since then?


69 posted on 05/23/2012 11:07:44 AM PDT by nomobs
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To: PapaNew

Now what we need is a freeper from HI to get a copy of theirs and prove these people wrong...


70 posted on 05/23/2012 11:36:32 AM PDT by freebird5850 (Just don't have a tagline today. This administration makes me quite sad.)
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To: W. W. SMITH
None of your sources for your claim that Barry is not NBC will meet the federal rules of evidence.

Barry's attorney's have worked overtime to make sure that his LFBC has NEVER been “legally produced” or “legally released” at any time, despite abuse of the words “produced” and “released” to describe the placement of a .pdf image on a White House website.

71 posted on 05/23/2012 11:56:22 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp; butterdezillion

You will never win the game as long as you play by their rules.

Use the rules that our Founding Fathers gave us...

Remember that the Constitution is the Supreme Law of the land, not “Statutory Law” that they created...

Research “Affidavits of Truth”.


72 posted on 05/23/2012 12:30:59 PM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: Seizethecarp

in all the like threads...I’ve yet to see a comment on this comment

As with any investigation undertaken by my office, it is my responsibility to the residents of Maricopa County to investigate until I discover the truth, regardless how intensely political pressure is applied to me by the White House and now by the Arizona secretary of state,” Arpaio told WND late last night.

-snip-


73 posted on 05/23/2012 12:42:17 PM PDT by advertising guy ( Slo Joe Biden " I promise you the President has a big stick, but Michelle's is bigger ")
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To: BuckeyeTexan

If you haven’t seen it yet,

Here is the verification

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verification.pdf


74 posted on 05/23/2012 12:44:17 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: W. W. SMITH
One must be a natural born citizen to be the president of the United States. A natural born citizen is one who is born of two citizen parents.

My 1940's era encyclopedia adds this additional caveat to your natural born citizen presidential pre-requisite:

"One must be a natural born citizen to be the president of the United States. A natural born citizen is one who is born of two citizen parents who themselves were both born on American soil."

(emphasis mine)
Either way, the fact remains that BHO meets neither of the two definitions.

75 posted on 05/23/2012 12:53:19 PM PDT by TruthRespecter
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To: PapaNew

Hawaii state gov is loaded with corrupt sneaky racially biased people , mostly of japanese-american ancestry, who will do anything to keep their grip on power here in tact . And senior sen Dan Annoying is the leader of the pack


76 posted on 05/23/2012 2:32:55 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

ps: this group of nihon ancestry racists are now seeking to replace Akaka with Hirono which will be about the worst yet .ALL Hawaii voters with half a brain need to get out and VOTE to keep this progressive peon from assuming the jr. sen. position , or it’s all over .


77 posted on 05/23/2012 2:37:03 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Seizethecarp

Born in Hawaii, birth certificate verified in Arizona, and he has a Connecticut social security number. He really is a man of the people.


78 posted on 05/23/2012 4:42:02 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: F15Eagle

Arizona says it’s good to go. Hmmm, I wonder what they were threatened with?


79 posted on 05/23/2012 4:45:22 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Zakeet

"Yeah, I'm going to law school, too. I'm going to St. Copius of Northern.....[trails off]"

80 posted on 05/23/2012 4:52:17 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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81 posted on 05/23/2012 5:28:00 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Seizethecarp

I’ve done lots of family research in Massachusetts.*Anyone* can go to the state Vital Records Dept in Boston and,with a few exceptions (adoptions,for example),see the *official* birth,marriage,death or divorce records,as contained in official bound volumes,on *anybody*,relative or complete stranger.And then,upon payment of a fixed fee,that same person can get an *official,certified* copy of the certificate,that copy being an actual Xerox copy of the page found in the bound volume with an official state seal affixed to the bottom.I know,I’ve done it (on family and one or two strangers).


82 posted on 05/23/2012 6:54:40 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: Seizethecarp

A negative can not be proved.

We can demand that Obama prove he is qualified. We already know he cannot.


83 posted on 05/23/2012 8:50:17 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: W. W. SMITH
“We can demand that Obama prove he is qualified. We already know he cannot.”

I disagree that we “know he cannot” prove he is qualified. I regard his LFBC to be a forgery.

That means a BC with Frank Marshall Davis as father or a witness or other documents such as SADO’s lost diary or even blood testing could, in the future, prove that Barry is NBC by having US citizen parents on US soil.

Of course, I am partial to the Kenya birth location regardless of the sperm donor. I hope Corsi can deliver on his claim that devastating revelations exist and are pending this week.

84 posted on 05/23/2012 9:04:57 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

After perusing this thread, I am reminded of a few lines of the recitation portion of the Declaration of Independence:

“In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms: our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.”

I hope Sherrif Joe goes all out in his investigation.Where in fact WAS Barrack Hussein Obama born. 360 million Americans deserve to know.Whats the problem is showing the documentation for that....EH? There needs to be a hue and cry across this land demanding it.


85 posted on 05/24/2012 7:21:57 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info....http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Seizethecarp
"The state of Hawaii has verified President Barack Obama's birth records to Arizona's elections chief..." "Made ya blink, Pilgrim!"
86 posted on 05/24/2012 8:14:11 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Eleutheria5
They got the Long-form Certificate

Did they? Or did they just give Az a copy of the documents where Nancy Pelosi took it upon herself to verify his eligibility since back in 2008 HI refused to do so...

87 posted on 05/24/2012 8:48:11 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Crucial

Here it is...

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verification.pdf


88 posted on 05/24/2012 8:55:16 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

And yet Kanpiolani Hospital never claimed that he was born there to my knowledge.


89 posted on 05/24/2012 9:35:43 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment leads only to tyranny.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

The changes the HI AG made Bennett make had nothing to do with establishing a legitimate government purpose. See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2887501/posts

The changes that were actually made actually strongly support what I have contended: that they CANNOT verify any birth facts for Obama because his birth record is late and amended and thus not legally probative.

The tell-tale piece of evidence: Bennett withdrew his actual verification request FORM, which according to HRS 338-14.3 would have required the HDOH to certify the true facts of Obama’s birth - including place of birth, date of birth, and the parents’ names. Those are the critical pieces of information, and Bennett withdrew a request for the HDOH to verify the legally-probative true facts.

Very, very revealing.


90 posted on 05/24/2012 11:07:38 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Uncle Slayton
I think the only possibility is that Obama’s current US Passport is a forgery, just like the rest of his American documentation

Or, he was born in Hawaii and proved it for his first passport.

91 posted on 05/24/2012 11:14:29 AM PDT by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Crucial
And yet Kanpiolani Hospital never claimed that he was born there to my knowledge

Neither have I. Although back in the day (around the time Obama was born) if a baby was born at home they would actually go to a hospital in Hawaii and have the documents done. This was so common and well known that pregnant foreigners would go to Hawaii to have their anchor babies at some home or even in a hotel then go get the papers done at the nearest hospital.

92 posted on 05/24/2012 12:00:48 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Candor7
this magnificent specimen of Yellow Journalism fails to mention the fact that the Long Form BC presented was proven a forgery by a certified forensic investigation team.

they also fail to mention that the document presented was a compromise beat down of the state of Arizona using a "I hearby cerify, trust me" note and in no way was a forensic verification of evidence, just another smokescreen to cover up the truth

93 posted on 05/24/2012 5:49:47 PM PDT by KTM rider
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To: Seizethecarp

What is there to hide if there is nothing to hide?

They sure do a constant stonewalling on something that it supposed to be no problem.

Games, games, games.

The poser and his supporters must always play games.


94 posted on 05/24/2012 8:26:40 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Uncle Slayton
“How did BHO get a pass port, with only a CLB?”

*******

I think the only possibility is that Obama’s current US Passport is a forgery, just like the rest of his American documentation.

*******

During the presidential campaign back in 2008, I read a message by a poster at an Israeli website that presented this theory of how Obama might have been able to obtain a passport without presenting a birth certificate:

According to the poster, back in the 1960s, children were routinely listed on a parent's passport as opposed to today, when children, as I understand it, have to apply for their own individual passport.

This meant that when the child later applied for his own passport, the passport office would see that the child had been listed on his parent's passport, so the passport office would, most of the time, give the child his own passport without requiring the child to provide legal documents like a birth certificate to prove that he was a United States citizen.

In summary, if Obama was listed on his mother's United States passport as a child back in the 1960s, then, Obama, according to the poster at the Israeli website, could later obtain his own passport without presenting a long form birth certificate.

Just some food for thought.

So if someone out there could explain to me why the poster at the Israeli site was correct or not correct back in 2008, I would appreciate it.

95 posted on 05/24/2012 8:28:19 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: tsowellfan
This was so common and well known that pregnant foreigners would go to Hawaii to have their anchor babies at some home or even in a hotel then go get the papers done at the nearest hospital.

Hawaii imigration is so full of holes that Castro could claim to be a citizen and we'd never figure it out.

96 posted on 05/24/2012 10:58:39 PM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment leads only to tyranny.)
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To: butterdezillion
I'm sorry, butter. All of your conjecture has been proven wrong.

... which according to HRS 338-14.3 would have required the HDOH to certify the true facts of Obama’s birth - including place of birth, date of birth, and the parents’ names.

That is exactly what Hawaii verified. They verified 12 specific items (including but not limited to the place & date of birth and the parents' names), verified that the information in the copy of the LFBC submitted by Bennett matched their records and went a step further:

"I certify that the information contained in the vital record on file with the Department of Health was used to verify the facts of the vital event." - Alvin T. Onaka, May 22, 2012
http://www.kvoa.com/files/Verification%20In%20Lieu%20of%20Certified%20Copy.PDF

that they CANNOT verify any birth facts for Obama because his birth record is late and amended and thus not legally probative.

Well, they've done exactly what you said they couldn't. I will post this at the link you provided.

97 posted on 05/25/2012 10:15:26 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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