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Zimmerman rode with cops, ripped department
The Miami Herald ^ | May 23, 2012 | Frances Robles

Posted on 05/23/2012 10:42:55 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A year before George Zimmerman killed a Miami Gardens teenager, he stood before a City Hall community forum with a grievance: Sanford cops are lazy, he told the then-mayor elect.

And he should know: Zimmerman, a community college criminal justice major, said he went on ride-alongs with the Sanford Police.

“And what I saw was disgusting,” Zimmerman said, according to a recording of the January 2011 meeting obtained by The Miami Herald. “The officer showed me his favorite hiding spots for taking naps, explained to me that he doesn’t carry a long gun in his vehicle because, in his words, ‘anything that requires a long gun requires a lot of paperwork, and you’re going to find me as far away from it.’

“He took two lunch breaks and attended a going-away party for one of his fellow officers.”

Zimmerman’s public lambasting of the police department and its outgoing chief is rich with irony: A year later, the new chief took a national beating over how the department handled Zimmerman’s shooting of high school junior Trayvon Martin. The recording raises new questions about whether the neighborhood watch volunteer might have received preferential treatment the night of the shooting because he was familiar to officers in the department — or if any of the officers who took him into custody were the among those he criticized.

The department was widely condemned for letting Zimmerman go home after being questioned. From the start, attorneys for Trayvon’s family said that Zimmerman was a wannabe cop, protected by the “blue wall.”(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
So?
1 posted on 05/23/2012 10:42:59 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Exactly, Zimmerman was honest and maybe a pain in the neck. Hardly terrible traits.

And what’s so wrong with neighborhood watch or even police wannabe’s, it doesn’t mean a person is violent, and certainly not in this case.


2 posted on 05/23/2012 10:47:43 AM PDT by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“But they wouldn’t give up the names of their donut shops,” said Zimmerman.


3 posted on 05/23/2012 10:48:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So if police were doing their job, there would have been no need for community watch dogs and Mr Zimmerman’s nose would have never had a close encounter with obamason’s knuckles.

BTW, What took the cops so long to arrive to the scene?


4 posted on 05/23/2012 10:53:41 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tells me that Zimmerman sure wasn’t expecting any preferential treatment by the police after his first arrest the night of the shooting.

This piece of news will be an effective counter to those who will accuse him of being befriended by the police, and that they were covering for him.


5 posted on 05/23/2012 10:57:51 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They’re just grasping at any reason... besides the truth. In my experience, the cops would have been glad to find a reason to take someone into custody who had criticized them... if they could. The fact that they saw this as a clear case of self-defense on the spot is very good for Zimmerman’s case.


6 posted on 05/23/2012 10:58:49 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I found this at the end of the article: At the community meeting, Zimmerman also raised concerns about whether Tooley should receive his pension.
Martin certainly seems full of himself. I'm not surprised that some folk find him abrasive.
7 posted on 05/23/2012 10:59:57 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hmmm, a community watch person who wants his city police to be more vigilant and less lazy.

String him up! (because the other case is unraveling)


8 posted on 05/23/2012 11:00:35 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

i worked for a local LE department and wrote a mapping application that showed the location of police vehicles on a map.

I was all excited that it would help ID the closest vehicle to a call and speed response times...

The officers hated it and tried to defeat its use at every opportunity (disconnecting trans,itters, etc)

I was completely floored since I thought it was goign to help officer safety and community respose

The reason: they didnt want it to be known where they were traveling all day. I found way too many loafing off using this software, spending hours at their homes, or at girlfriends, or going from donut shop to donut shop all day long

they finally discontinued its use- I was extremely dissapointed


9 posted on 05/23/2012 11:06:22 AM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in Palin/Gingrich)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

10 posted on 05/23/2012 11:06:52 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
attorneys for Trayvon’s family said that Zimmerman was a wannabe ...
Every inner city in America is filled with wannabes including Trayvon ...
... but all we ever hear is - they gots rights.

11 posted on 05/23/2012 11:10:11 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Mr. K

anyone who drives a vehicle who is in a union...the unions ALWAYS fight GPS tracking. Probably for the same reason.


12 posted on 05/23/2012 11:31:32 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Apparently the feeling was mutual.

Any criticism of the Sarasota Police should be reserved for the Prosecutor who (wisely) declined to prosecute a case he was almost certain to lose.

The Police didn’t think much of Zimmerman and they opined that he should be prosecuted. The Prosecutor declined.


13 posted on 05/23/2012 11:37:40 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m starting to really like this Zimmerman guy.


14 posted on 05/23/2012 11:39:31 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: A'elian' nation

I agree. This would seem to be a reason for the police to come down hard on him, try to find any reason to charge him instead of letting him go the night of the shooting. I think this info actually supports the fact that they had no basis to hold or charge Zimmerman at the time or ever.


15 posted on 05/23/2012 11:44:16 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Andrei Bulba

Ride alongs are hardly unusual in smaller towns. Where I live, any resident is welcome to participate in a ride along. You sign up with the chief, they set you up for it, and away you go.


16 posted on 05/23/2012 11:53:08 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I lived in FL for 10 years and was within about 10 miles of Sanford.

What Zimmerman is saying about the Sanford PD is, essentially, true of ALL FL LEOs. While there are some LEOs who actually WANT to do their jobs, MOST are lazy and just want a car to ride around in and a badge and a gun, but they don’t really want to DO anything to EARN them.

In their effort to smear Zimmerman, the Miami Herald has only made themselves look foolish.


17 posted on 05/23/2012 12:03:24 PM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This just goes to strengthen my belief that Zimmerman was actually an idealistic young adult who wanted to “make a difference”. This is evidenced by his coming to the defense of that person he thought was being mugged(turned out to be undercover officers, but how was he to know?) Also, the fact that he agreed to take the responsibility of the neighborhood watch captain. And, again by his serving as a mentor to dis-advantaged teens.

Why is it so hard for some people to accept that he is not a vicious, racist, vigilante?


18 posted on 05/23/2012 12:23:10 PM PDT by mtrott
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

records show, even though a background check showed Zimmerman had a criminal history, though no convictions.

How do you have a criminal history if you were never convicted of a criminal offence?


19 posted on 05/23/2012 12:34:25 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So the article describes George being a pain to the cops, then comes to the conclusion that the cops would cover up for him after he publicly criticized them.

Liberal logic.
Gotta love it.


20 posted on 05/23/2012 12:38:33 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Clara Lou

“Martin certainly seems full of himself. I’m not surprised that some folk find him abrasive.”

You have some information that the rest of us are missing?


21 posted on 05/23/2012 12:39:01 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: Mr. K

All officers should have their GPS locations available to dispatch at ALL times.

Each should wear a recording device that keeps a video/audio record of each entire shift. The device should be encrypted and only the order of a judge could decrypt it. If any arrest is made where the camera is mysteriously non-functional then it should not a legitimate arrest. Such devices can be easily built. Fisheye lenses, front and back, for 360 degree records. Software can easily correct the fisheye effect for courtroom presentation.


22 posted on 05/23/2012 12:45:59 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“So? “

Exactly!

And this...

“if any of the officers who took him into custody were the among those he criticized”

That makes absolutely NO SENSE! He wouldn’t get preferential treatment from those that he criticized but making sense isn’t the MSM M.O. it’s to paint the picture they want painted and screw the FACTS!


23 posted on 05/23/2012 1:06:35 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Frances Robles - A native New Yorker who graduated from NYU, she was a 2004-2005 John S. Knight Fellow at Stanford University. She is a former board member of the National Association of Hispanic Journalists.

24 posted on 05/23/2012 1:09:55 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Obamason - thanks, that’s a keeper


25 posted on 05/23/2012 1:17:50 PM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: philetus

No, I read on-line just like you.


26 posted on 05/23/2012 1:43:52 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: DustyMoment

It’s pretty much true of every police department in America. You’ve got half of the departments doing their job, and the other half wasting their time.


27 posted on 05/23/2012 2:02:33 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
My reaction exactly!

They don't want to deal with the actual event, they want to dig around for some sinster motive to establish the basis for a 'hate crime'

28 posted on 05/23/2012 2:33:38 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

[[A year before George Zimmerman killed a Miami Gardens teenager]]

Woopsie- here’ i’ll fix that for ya miami herald A year before George Zimmerman killed a Miami Gardens THUG IN SELF DEFENSE

[[“And what I saw was disgusting,” Zimmerman said, according to a recording of the January 2011 meeting obtained by The Miami Herald. “The officer showed me his favorite hiding spots for taking naps, explained to me that he doesn’t carry a long gun in his vehicle because, in his words, ‘anything that requires a long gun requires a lot of paperwork, and you’re going to find me as far away from it.’ ]]

Hmmmm- now one has to wonder IF the Sanford police are gettign revenge agaisnt george for sayign that about htem?


29 posted on 05/23/2012 8:56:06 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It would be interesting to find out how many traffic tickets were issued while this was going on. I believe revenue building for the City takes precedence over fighting crime.
30 posted on 05/23/2012 9:01:33 PM PDT by PushinTin (Politicians are like diapers, the need to be changed often and for the same reason...)
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