What they released is an ABSTRACT of Data on File.
Exactly.
Posted on 05/23/2012 11:10:40 AM PDT by Red Steel
Sheriff Joe Arpaio says the decision by Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett to place Barack Obama’s name on the state’s presidential ballot won’t put an end to the investigation
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“No, I’m not going to call it quits,” Arpaio told WND.
“I’m not calling my Cold Case Posse investigators home from Hawaii, and I don’t plan to end my investigation prematurely.”
...Bennett said last night that he finally received information that proves Obama’s American birth and satisfies Arizona’s requirements for having the president on the ballot, reported azcentral.com
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“As with any investigation undertaken by my office, it is my responsibility to the residents of Maricopa County to investigate until I discover the truth, regardless how intensely political pressure is applied to me by the White House and now by the Arizona secretary of state,” Arpaio told WND late last night.
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Zullo said the possibility remained that Arpaio’s law enforcement investigation will conclude Obama’s birth certificate and Selective Service registration form are fraudulent – a result that would pit the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office against the Arizona state government. The posse announced March 1 probable cause exists that the documents were forged.
“In my meetings with Mr. Bennett on behalf of Sheriff Arpaio, he was uninterested in reviewing the evidence the Cold Case Posse has accumulated,” Zullo said, characterizing Bennett’s late-night announcement as a “desperate rush to judgment” after weeks of negotiation to get Hawaii to provide the assurances he required.
“Evidently Hawaii has had a change of heart,” Zullo said. “I’m now happy to return once again to the Hawaii Department in Health to repeat our request that Hawaii release whatever birth records may yet remain concealed in the Hawaii Department of Health vaults to public examination by a court-certified group of forensic examiners.”
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
A simple "don't ask us to go there as we're innocent victims in all of this too" and a drawn out delay turned into an instant delivery.
And they actually believed nobody would notice.
That would be true and accurate.
It is very odd that Bennet just turned into a pantswetting neutered wabbit overnight.
It looks like Bennett lost his courage.
Or, is he succumbing to pressure from somebody’s presidential campaign?
FELT???
I thought he was supposed to be one of us. Going by thinking instead of (liberal) feeling!
Just damn.
By not specifying whether the digital files they released are an ABSTRACT, or a CERTIFIED Copy of an actual document on file, Hawaii keeps their grass skirts clean. What they released is an ABSTRACT of Data on File. It was a digital file, scanned from a variety of sources.
It was this mélange of digital data that Team Obama homogenized into a single, digitally created, cut and pasted file, on a background of certificate "Safety Paper," which was released to the press, who obligingly refer to it as "The Birth Certificate." It is not a Birth Certificate. It is not a certified copy of a birth certificate. If it were a "Certified Copy," it would have said that. It is not a document, per se, but a virtual image.
This is the nexus of the Posse's work on that particular non-document. And they can prove it.
What they released is an ABSTRACT of Data on File.
Exactly.
The Hawaii verification of birth sent to Ken Bennett
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verification.pdf
Again Hawaii DOH is parsing their words. Here’s what the document says…….
“A birth certificate is on file with the Department of Health indicating that Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii”.
The DOH does not address the question of whether this birth certificate on file is the ORIGINAL birth certificate that was issued at the time of birth or if there were amendments to the ORIGINAL document that may signify an adoption and/or name change.
It doesn’t matter what the BC indicates now. What is important is what information was on the ORIGINAL BC.
Do they think we are all stupid?
I’ve been wrestling with my computer all evening, trying to post to my blog a post fleshing out exactly what you said. After going through 2 kids’ computers, I was finally able to get it up, at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/hi-non-verification-1.pdf
If I could remember how to paste a PDF I’d post it here. The formatting is such a pain, especially when you’re a techno-moron like me who’s been battling all night. sigh.
If anybody knows how to help me I’d be grateful.
Then again, maybe my own computer incompetence is a sign from God that I should just shut up. lol. Or at least go to bed now.
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Date of birth? Does anyone know why Bennett did NOT ask for date of birth? Thanks.
I don’t get Bennett - why go into battle in the first place if you intend to fold at the first sign of resistance?
Yes.
And now that we have that out of the way, let's all stand up and face a damned ugly fact(oid). It is not necessary for ALL to be stupid for Team Obama's strategies on the BC to work. Team Obama needs just enough stupid people to suit their purpose.
The stupid are made to feel not stupid, because the MSM, The Republican Party, and the Courts from top to bottom are telling them everything is just hunky-dory and ease up, willya, the guy was born in Hawaii. In the meantime, for those of us who are not quite stupid enough to join in the game, there is this never-ending midnight ride 'round and 'round Robin Hood's Barn.
There is no "Birth Certificate." If there were, a Hawaiian Clerk would Xerox the damn thing, have it notarized, and Fedexed, Faxed, Scanned, and made available to anyone who wants to see it. That is what a "Certified Copy" is in America. Anyone who ever closed on a house, registered a car, or enrolled a kid in a school should know that. What there is, is "data on file." Team Obama used this digital data to make their own "Birth Certificate." So could you. But don't try that technique to make your own car title for the DMV, or the deed for your house.
This leaves us in the same boat with Sheriff Joe. He has the evidence. He told his State SoS, the Bennettweasel, who initially made some semi-appropriate noises, and promptly let Team Obama off the hook on the BC issue. BTW, the gobshiite has not even deigned to look into the Natural Born Citizen issue. Who could blame the crapweasel? Neither has the SCOTUS
I have the sneaking suspicion that Baby Barry may have been registered as a "Home Birth."
This was very common in Hawaii as a method for giving foreign-born babies an American BC and the manifold benefits attached. One filled in the form by hand, had a witness sign it, and that was it.
This could be the "handwritten" document originally referred to by the Governor of Hawaii, which of course has subsequently disappeared. But then the Governor also falsely claims to have been pals with Obama Senior and Stanley, and bouncing Baby Barry on his knee.
“Late yesterday, our office received the ‘verification in-lieu of certified copy’ from officials within the Hawaii Department of Health that we requested in March,” reads a statement released by Bennett today. “They have officially confirmed that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for the President matches the original record in their files.
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Kapiolani Hospital: Can anyone---say, elected officials--- now put pressure on President Obama and Kapiolani officials to "verify" that Obama's mother was a patient there in Aug. 1961?
As I see it, now that Hawaii officials have responded to Arizona's Bennett's verification request, it puts a little more pressure on President Obama and Kapiolani Hospital officials to follow Hawaii's example and also "verify" that Obama's mother was indeed a patient there in Aug. 1961.
But I don't believe that President Obama will ever allow Kapiolani officials to talk about his mother, and Kapiolani officials will never publicly "verify" that Obama's mother was a patient there in Aug. 1961, even if such "verification" may not violate privacy medical laws.
And if Kapiolani officials do not "verify" that Obama's mother was a patient there in Aug. 1961 even after heavy pressure from the public to do so, then my conclusion would be that Obama's mother was never a patient in that hospital in Aug. 1961 in the first place.
I really admire your use of words. lol. I can never find words that are strong enough to convey my true feelings without resorting to profanity.
You’ve got it pegged, totally.
Holy Moly!!! I will search FR for the posts on this. I know others have vetted this. This alone says Obama’s BC needs to be thoroughly investigated. Thank you!
What are your thoughts on this?
1. I hope that the sheriff and other government officials CONTINUE to fight to get their own CERTIFIED copy of Obama's long form birth certificate, even though Hawaii officials have recently sent a "verification" of Obama's birth certificate to Arizona official Bennett.
2. As we know, Hawaii granted President Obama's request and released a certified copy of Obama's long form birth certificate to Obama himself last year in April 2011, who, in turn, released the copy to the world to great fanfare a few days later on April 27, 2011.
3. So to fight Hawaii's claim that it cannot release a certified copy of Obama's long form birth certificate because of privacy laws, the sheriff and other government officials should argue this way in order to obtain their own CERTIFIED copy of Obama's long form:
If President Obama has already VOLUNTARILY released his long form birth certificate to the world in April 2011, then it should no longer be a violation of privacy laws when Hawaii officials send other government officials--- like the Arizona sheriff--- the same CERTIFIED copy that Hawaii already sent President Obama a year ago in April 2011.
4. "Verification" recently sent to Bennett: Hawaii officials must be have jumped with glee when they learned that Bennett would accept a "verification" instead of a CERTIFIED copy of Obama's long form birth certificate, the same one Hawaii officials released to President Obama in April 2011, because document and computer experts cannot examine a "verification"to see if it is a FORGERY or not.
5. In other words, Hawaii quickly saw that sending a "verification" to Bennett was the lesser of two evils: Sending a "verification" was less of an evil than sending Bennett a certified copy of Obama's long form birth certificate like the one it sent Obama back in April 2011, because, again, a "verification" cannot be examined to see if it is a forgery or not.
6. So, as I see it, Hawaii saw its chance to dodge a bullet by quickly agreeing to send Bennett a "verification" instead of a "certified" copy of Obama's long form birth certificate.
7. That is, by sending only a "verification" to Bennett, Hawaii officials must have made a deep sigh of relief when they learned that they did not have to be put in the position of having to vigorously fight to keep Bennett and other government officials from ever getting their hands on a CERTIFIED copy of Obama's long form birth certificate with its seal like the certificate they sent President Obama back in April 2011, because, as Hawaii officials knew, document and computer experts would have examined every inch of Obama's long form birth certificate to see if it was a forgery or not.
8. So, again, I say that the sheriff and other government officials should continue to fight to get their hands on a CERTIFIED copy of Obama's long form birth certificate, a copy like that one Hawaii sent President Obama back in April 2011.
9. NOTE: As many of us know, posters at pro-Obama sites are so happy now because they feel that Hawaii's "verification" that was sent to Bennett puts the final nail into the crazy birther coffin.
John, The HIDOH DID NOT release a "Certified Copy of Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate," and has never said that it had. The HIDOH admits only to having released a digital copy of "data on file." Team Obama used these various digital files to create something that looked like a Birth Certificate. They did not even bother to create a "document." They released a pdf, that when printed by the various MSM organizations that received it electronically, looked a lot like a Birth Certificate, which of course it is not. Neither is it a "Certified Copy" of anything in particular.
The various statements released by the WH and by the HIDOH, and by the outrageous back-pedaling crapweasel in AZ, Mr. Bennett, simply cannot stand up to vigorous parsing. On the one hand, HI has been masterful in avoiding any possibility of blame. On the other, the WH has allowed the MSM to carry their water. "We released the BC," is all they really have to say.
Enter Arpaio and the Posse.
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This is john mirse.
Hawaii seal: Do you know if the copy of Obama's long form birth certificate that Hawaii gave to Obama in April 2011 was stamped wth the official Hawaii seal? Thanks.
SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT: If the Obama long form birth certificate that Hawaii has on file---and the one Hawaii "verified" for Arizona's Bennett---looks exactly like the one President Obama presented on April 27, 2011 to great fanfare at his press conference, and if the copy that President Obama displayed turns out to be a forgery, then I believe that the forgery must have originated in Hawaii and not in Washington,D.C. or the mainland, unless the forgery was created in Washington and then secretly sent to Hawaii to be placed in Obama's Hawaii files.
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