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Sheriff Joe: 'I'm not going to call it quits'
wnd ^ | May 23, 2012 | Corsi

Posted on 05/23/2012 11:10:40 AM PDT by Red Steel

Sheriff Joe Arpaio says the decision by Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett to place Barack Obama’s name on the state’s presidential ballot won’t put an end to the investigation

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“No, I’m not going to call it quits,” Arpaio told WND.

“I’m not calling my Cold Case Posse investigators home from Hawaii, and I don’t plan to end my investigation prematurely.”

...Bennett said last night that he finally received information that proves Obama’s American birth and satisfies Arizona’s requirements for having the president on the ballot, reported azcentral.com

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“As with any investigation undertaken by my office, it is my responsibility to the residents of Maricopa County to investigate until I discover the truth, regardless how intensely political pressure is applied to me by the White House and now by the Arizona secretary of state,” Arpaio told WND late last night.

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Zullo said the possibility remained that Arpaio’s law enforcement investigation will conclude Obama’s birth certificate and Selective Service registration form are fraudulent – a result that would pit the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office against the Arizona state government. The posse announced March 1 probable cause exists that the documents were forged.

“In my meetings with Mr. Bennett on behalf of Sheriff Arpaio, he was uninterested in reviewing the evidence the Cold Case Posse has accumulated,” Zullo said, characterizing Bennett’s late-night announcement as a “desperate rush to judgment” after weeks of negotiation to get Hawaii to provide the assurances he required.

“Evidently Hawaii has had a change of heart,” Zullo said. “I’m now happy to return once again to the Hawaii Department in Health to repeat our request that Hawaii release whatever birth records may yet remain concealed in the Hawaii Department of Health vaults to public examination by a court-certified group of forensic examiners.”

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arpaio; bc; eligibility; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamacon
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To: Red Steel; butterdezillion
You’ll notice that the word “true” is missing in the Onaka verification to Bennett.
Onaka didn't even go that far! He just said the information on the attached BC "matched".

Per @butterdezillion's transcript...

“the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that you attached with your request matches the original record in our files.”
51 posted on 05/23/2012 2:15:38 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36; Smokeyblue

Now we’re having fun know taking apart Hawaii’s weasel “verification”. ;-)


52 posted on 05/23/2012 2:27:39 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Did you miss @my reply at 168 on the other thread?

1:15:10 pdf posted on that thread and my reply at 2:08:25.

Less than an hour later, between responding, reading and finally replying to other replies.

Knowing what was asked for beforehand was helpful in knowing that it was little more than toilet paper upon reading.

The obvious sometimes isn't unless, and until, it's pointed out. (I've needed it pointed out myself from time to time)

53 posted on 05/23/2012 2:43:33 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Red Steel

Has anyone looked into what the vital statistic coding means on the last BC Obama released?

http://www.teapartypowerhour.com/coding

Those numbers mean something.


54 posted on 05/23/2012 2:51:51 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: philman_36

And Bennett was quoted as saying that he got what he had asked for, so apparently that was the change that he was required to make to his request.


55 posted on 05/23/2012 3:15:17 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: OafOfOffice

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2012/02/vital-records-indicate-obama-not-born_29.html Several posts, iirc, about those codes.


56 posted on 05/23/2012 4:24:42 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: FreeAtlanta

Disgusted? More like enraged.


57 posted on 05/23/2012 4:41:15 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: philman_36
Did you miss @my reply at 168 on the other thread?

I miss a lot. Too much FR in a 24 hour period and running around. ;-)

58 posted on 05/23/2012 5:17:40 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Too much FR in a 24 hour period and running around.
The running around has been my load since Saturday evening.
Necessity often overrides and dictates that.
59 posted on 05/23/2012 5:47:28 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Red Steel

Would it be this in the vernacular?

“Yes, the lying crap we have on file matches the lying crap 0b0zo’s peeps put on the White House website.”


60 posted on 05/23/2012 5:56:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: butterdezillion
And Bennett was quoted as saying that he got what he had asked for, so apparently that was the change that he was required to make to his request.

A simple "don't ask us to go there as we're innocent victims in all of this too" and a drawn out delay turned into an instant delivery.

And they actually believed nobody would notice.

61 posted on 05/23/2012 6:01:52 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: donna

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verification.pdf

link to the PDF from Hawaii to Arizona...


62 posted on 05/23/2012 6:21:38 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: little jeremiah

That would be true and accurate.


63 posted on 05/23/2012 6:49:03 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

It is very odd that Bennet just turned into a pantswetting neutered wabbit overnight.


64 posted on 05/23/2012 7:08:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Red Steel

It looks like Bennett lost his courage.

Or, is he succumbing to pressure from somebody’s presidential campaign?


65 posted on 05/23/2012 7:12:05 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: Red Steel
Felt sure?

FELT???

I thought he was supposed to be one of us. Going by thinking instead of (liberal) feeling!

Just damn.

66 posted on 05/23/2012 7:21:14 PM PDT by houeto (FReepathon 2Q! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Red Steel
I certify that this a true copy
OR
AN ABSTRACT
on file at the
Hawaii State Department of Records.

By not specifying whether the digital files they released are an ABSTRACT, or a CERTIFIED Copy of an actual document on file, Hawaii keeps their grass skirts clean. What they released is an ABSTRACT of Data on File. It was a digital file, scanned from a variety of sources.

It was this mélange of digital data that Team Obama homogenized into a single, digitally created, cut and pasted file, on a background of certificate "Safety Paper," which was released to the press, who obligingly refer to it as "The Birth Certificate." It is not a Birth Certificate. It is not a certified copy of a birth certificate. If it were a "Certified Copy," it would have said that. It is not a document, per se, but a virtual image.

This is the nexus of the Posse's work on that particular non-document. And they can prove it.

67 posted on 05/23/2012 8:13:56 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Kenny Bunk
KB, you win the Kewpie doll for that post.

What they released is an ABSTRACT of Data on File.

Exactly.

68 posted on 05/23/2012 8:36:05 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Seizethecarp; Red Steel

The Hawaii verification of birth sent to Ken Bennett
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verification.pdf

Again Hawaii DOH is parsing their words. Here’s what the document says…….
“A birth certificate is on file with the Department of Health indicating that Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii”.

The DOH does not address the question of whether this birth certificate on file is the ORIGINAL birth certificate that was issued at the time of birth or if there were amendments to the ORIGINAL document that may signify an adoption and/or name change.

It doesn’t matter what the BC indicates now. What is important is what information was on the ORIGINAL BC.

Do they think we are all stupid?


69 posted on 05/23/2012 8:57:58 PM PDT by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I’ve been wrestling with my computer all evening, trying to post to my blog a post fleshing out exactly what you said. After going through 2 kids’ computers, I was finally able to get it up, at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/hi-non-verification-1.pdf

If I could remember how to paste a PDF I’d post it here. The formatting is such a pain, especially when you’re a techno-moron like me who’s been battling all night. sigh.

If anybody knows how to help me I’d be grateful.

Then again, maybe my own computer incompetence is a sign from God that I should just shut up. lol. Or at least go to bed now.


70 posted on 05/23/2012 9:40:39 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Smokeyblue
Enclosed please find a request for a verification in lieu of a certified copy for the birth record of Barack Hussein Obama II. In addition to the items to be verified in the attached form, please verify the following items from the record of birth:

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Date of birth? Does anyone know why Bennett did NOT ask for date of birth? Thanks.

71 posted on 05/23/2012 11:01:17 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: Red Steel

I don’t get Bennett - why go into battle in the first place if you intend to fold at the first sign of resistance?


72 posted on 05/24/2012 12:24:39 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Jonah Vark; Red Steel; Seizethecarp; butterdezillion
Do they think we are all stupid?

Yes.

And now that we have that out of the way, let's all stand up and face a damned ugly fact(oid). It is not necessary for ALL to be stupid for Team Obama's strategies on the BC to work. Team Obama needs just enough stupid people to suit their purpose.

The stupid are made to feel not stupid, because the MSM, The Republican Party, and the Courts from top to bottom are telling them everything is just hunky-dory and ease up, willya, the guy was born in Hawaii. In the meantime, for those of us who are not quite stupid enough to join in the game, there is this never-ending midnight ride 'round and 'round Robin Hood's Barn.

There is no "Birth Certificate." If there were, a Hawaiian Clerk would Xerox the damn thing, have it notarized, and Fedexed, Faxed, Scanned, and made available to anyone who wants to see it. That is what a "Certified Copy" is in America. Anyone who ever closed on a house, registered a car, or enrolled a kid in a school should know that. What there is, is "data on file." Team Obama used this digital data to make their own "Birth Certificate." So could you. But don't try that technique to make your own car title for the DMV, or the deed for your house.

This leaves us in the same boat with Sheriff Joe. He has the evidence. He told his State SoS, the Bennettweasel, who initially made some semi-appropriate noises, and promptly let Team Obama off the hook on the BC issue. BTW, the gobshiite has not even deigned to look into the Natural Born Citizen issue. Who could blame the crapweasel? Neither has the SCOTUS

73 posted on 05/24/2012 5:44:29 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Jonah Vark; Red Steel; Seizethecarp; butterdezillion
So what, in my NSVHO, is really going on?

I have the sneaking suspicion that Baby Barry may have been registered as a "Home Birth."

This was very common in Hawaii as a method for giving foreign-born babies an American BC and the manifold benefits attached. One filled in the form by hand, had a witness sign it, and that was it.

This could be the "handwritten" document originally referred to by the Governor of Hawaii, which of course has subsequently disappeared. But then the Governor also falsely claims to have been pals with Obama Senior and Stanley, and bouncing Baby Barry on his knee.

74 posted on 05/24/2012 5:57:16 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Tucson_AZ
“PHOENIX - Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett has received the verification of President Obama’s birth certificate that he requested last week, and he states that he now considers the matter closed.

“Late yesterday, our office received the ‘verification in-lieu of certified copy’ from officials within the Hawaii Department of Health that we requested in March,” reads a statement released by Bennett today. “They have officially confirmed that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for the President matches the original record in their files.

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Kapiolani Hospital: Can anyone---say, elected officials--- now put pressure on President Obama and Kapiolani officials to "verify" that Obama's mother was a patient there in Aug. 1961?

As I see it, now that Hawaii officials have responded to Arizona's Bennett's verification request, it puts a little more pressure on President Obama and Kapiolani Hospital officials to follow Hawaii's example and also "verify" that Obama's mother was indeed a patient there in Aug. 1961.

But I don't believe that President Obama will ever allow Kapiolani officials to talk about his mother, and Kapiolani officials will never publicly "verify" that Obama's mother was a patient there in Aug. 1961, even if such "verification" may not violate privacy medical laws.

And if Kapiolani officials do not "verify" that Obama's mother was a patient there in Aug. 1961 even after heavy pressure from the public to do so, then my conclusion would be that Obama's mother was never a patient in that hospital in Aug. 1961 in the first place.

75 posted on 05/24/2012 7:43:21 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: Kenny Bunk

I really admire your use of words. lol. I can never find words that are strong enough to convey my true feelings without resorting to profanity.

You’ve got it pegged, totally.


76 posted on 05/24/2012 8:05:20 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Greenperson

Holy Moly!!! I will search FR for the posts on this. I know others have vetted this. This alone says Obama’s BC needs to be thoroughly investigated. Thank you!

What are your thoughts on this?


77 posted on 05/24/2012 8:21:26 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: Red Steel
Certified copy of Obama's long form birth certificate:

1. I hope that the sheriff and other government officials CONTINUE to fight to get their own CERTIFIED copy of Obama's long form birth certificate, even though Hawaii officials have recently sent a "verification" of Obama's birth certificate to Arizona official Bennett.

2. As we know, Hawaii granted President Obama's request and released a certified copy of Obama's long form birth certificate to Obama himself last year in April 2011, who, in turn, released the copy to the world to great fanfare a few days later on April 27, 2011.

3. So to fight Hawaii's claim that it cannot release a certified copy of Obama's long form birth certificate because of privacy laws, the sheriff and other government officials should argue this way in order to obtain their own CERTIFIED copy of Obama's long form:

If President Obama has already VOLUNTARILY released his long form birth certificate to the world in April 2011, then it should no longer be a violation of privacy laws when Hawaii officials send other government officials--- like the Arizona sheriff--- the same CERTIFIED copy that Hawaii already sent President Obama a year ago in April 2011.

4. "Verification" recently sent to Bennett: Hawaii officials must be have jumped with glee when they learned that Bennett would accept a "verification" instead of a CERTIFIED copy of Obama's long form birth certificate, the same one Hawaii officials released to President Obama in April 2011, because document and computer experts cannot examine a "verification"to see if it is a FORGERY or not.

5. In other words, Hawaii quickly saw that sending a "verification" to Bennett was the lesser of two evils: Sending a "verification" was less of an evil than sending Bennett a certified copy of Obama's long form birth certificate like the one it sent Obama back in April 2011, because, again, a "verification" cannot be examined to see if it is a forgery or not.

6. So, as I see it, Hawaii saw its chance to dodge a bullet by quickly agreeing to send Bennett a "verification" instead of a "certified" copy of Obama's long form birth certificate.

7. That is, by sending only a "verification" to Bennett, Hawaii officials must have made a deep sigh of relief when they learned that they did not have to be put in the position of having to vigorously fight to keep Bennett and other government officials from ever getting their hands on a CERTIFIED copy of Obama's long form birth certificate with its seal like the certificate they sent President Obama back in April 2011, because, as Hawaii officials knew, document and computer experts would have examined every inch of Obama's long form birth certificate to see if it was a forgery or not.

8. So, again, I say that the sheriff and other government officials should continue to fight to get their hands on a CERTIFIED copy of Obama's long form birth certificate, a copy like that one Hawaii sent President Obama back in April 2011.

9. NOTE: As many of us know, posters at pro-Obama sites are so happy now because they feel that Hawaii's "verification" that was sent to Bennett puts the final nail into the crazy birther coffin.

78 posted on 05/24/2012 5:00:53 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: john mirse
As we know, Hawaii granted President Obama's request and released a certified copy of Obama's long form birth certificate to Obama himself last year in April 2011, who, in turn, released the copy to the world to great fanfare a few days later on April 27, 2011.

John, The HIDOH DID NOT release a "Certified Copy of Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate," and has never said that it had. The HIDOH admits only to having released a digital copy of "data on file." Team Obama used these various digital files to create something that looked like a Birth Certificate. They did not even bother to create a "document." They released a pdf, that when printed by the various MSM organizations that received it electronically, looked a lot like a Birth Certificate, which of course it is not. Neither is it a "Certified Copy" of anything in particular.

The various statements released by the WH and by the HIDOH, and by the outrageous back-pedaling crapweasel in AZ, Mr. Bennett, simply cannot stand up to vigorous parsing. On the one hand, HI has been masterful in avoiding any possibility of blame. On the other, the WH has allowed the MSM to carry their water. "We released the BC," is all they really have to say.

Enter Arpaio and the Posse.

79 posted on 05/25/2012 5:38:31 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Kenny Bunk
John, The HIDOH DID NOT release a "Certified Copy of Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate," and has never said that it had. The HIDOH admits only to having released a digital copy of "data on file." Team Obama used these various digital files to create something that looked like a Birth Certificate. They did not even bother to create a "document." They released a pdf, that when printed by the various MSM organizations that received it electronically, looked a lot like a Birth Certificate, which of course it is not. Neither is it a "Certified Copy" of anything in particular.

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This is john mirse.

Hawaii seal: Do you know if the copy of Obama's long form birth certificate that Hawaii gave to Obama in April 2011 was stamped wth the official Hawaii seal? Thanks.

SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT: If the Obama long form birth certificate that Hawaii has on file---and the one Hawaii "verified" for Arizona's Bennett---looks exactly like the one President Obama presented on April 27, 2011 to great fanfare at his press conference, and if the copy that President Obama displayed turns out to be a forgery, then I believe that the forgery must have originated in Hawaii and not in Washington,D.C. or the mainland, unless the forgery was created in Washington and then secretly sent to Hawaii to be placed in Obama's Hawaii files.

80 posted on 05/25/2012 7:45:47 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: john mirse
Hawaii seal: Do you know if the copy of Obama's long form birth certificate that Hawaii gave to Obama in April 2011 was stamped wth the official Hawaii seal?

I do not know.
What the WH released was not what they actually received from HI, which was not a document but a digital record of "data on file." The WH created what they released by copying and combining those files. Others on this site suggest that the "Seal" was lifted from another document. I have no idea.

....unless the forgery was created in Washington and then secretly sent to Hawaii to be placed in Obama's Hawaii files.

Well, that might certainly certainly the easiest explanation and makes a great deal of sense.... to me, anyway ... because I have long thought there is no standard Long Form Birth Certificate, probably just the handwritten form witnessing a home birth.

We are in the unenviable position of knowing what the WH and Team Obama tell us is most probably NOT true. That, however, gives us no clue as to what the truth is, which is the way Team Obama wants it. Furthermore, by now, there are at least 10 explanations ... 10 different stories ... on every anomaly in the man's background. So, at the end of the day, we still have no idea who, or what, the guy is, or where he was born. Not good. Not good for the country to have all of this swirling about the Presidency.

81 posted on 05/25/2012 9:04:27 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: john mirse; Kenny Bunk

Sheriff Arpaio has said he knows on what computer the document was before it was emailed to the WH. He said he knows name/s in this connection.


82 posted on 05/25/2012 9:46:49 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
LJ, there is no doubt that Sheriff Joe has the goods.

The problem now is, where does he go with them? Will he sue Bennett to remove Obama from the ballot? Who will hear the case ... and does he have a case? Will he charge Obama with a crime? What?

So far, the arguments are all dressed up ... but have no place to go.

83 posted on 05/25/2012 10:01:40 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Kenny Bunk

IMHO nothing will really happen until 0mugabe and his string pullers cross a line. What line, I don’t know - something akin to the Redcoats marching to get the arms stash in Lexington (I think I have that right!).

Then things will happen, and most likely involve Sheriffs, perhaps mil, and a lot of regular people.

AFAIAC, the vast majority of R elites which includes elected Rs are scum. We will see which ones are not by how they act once that line is crossed. I am reasonably certain a line will be crossed.


84 posted on 05/25/2012 10:39:19 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Red Steel

No date of birth? No names of parents?

85 posted on 05/25/2012 8:42:54 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: butterdezillion

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2887172/posts?page=85#85

is this the image you were asking for? Google had it.


86 posted on 05/25/2012 8:50:10 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

I just noticed something else. These are the additional items that Bennett asked to be verified from the birth record:

Enclosed please find a request for a verification in lieu of a certified copy for the birth record of Barack Hussein Obama II. In addition to the items to be verified in the attached form, please verify the following items from the record of birth:

Department of Health File #151 61 10641
Time of birth: 7:24 p.m.
Name of hospital: Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital
Age of father: 25
Birthplace of Father: Kenya, East Africa
Age of mother: 18
Birthplace of mother: Wichita, Kansas
Date of signature of parent: 8-7-1961
Date of signature of attendant: 8-8-1961
Date accepted by local registrar: August-8 1961

That’s 10 items from the record of birth for Barack Hussein Obama II. The HDOH has 12 items. The first 2 are different than what Bennett requested. The first says they have a birth certificate on file indicating that Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.

The second says “Name of Person: Barack Hussein Obama, II” Why say that, unless to indicate that #2 is the start of a list of items on the record that was verified as existing in #1?


87 posted on 05/26/2012 6:16:50 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
The second says “Name of Person: Barack Hussein Obama, II” Why say that,

A different way of saying "Jr"?
88 posted on 05/26/2012 6:19:58 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

I mean why even list the name on the document, if items 1-12 were all the requested “verification in lieu of a certified copy” for the birth record of Barack Hussein Obama II, that Ken Bennett had asked for?

Item #1 already specified that there was a birth record for Barack Hussein Obama, II indicating that he was born in Honolulu, HI. That made clear that this was a verification involving Barack Hussein Obama II.

So why list the name of person? That’s the name of WHAT person?


89 posted on 05/26/2012 6:43:55 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: aruanan

It’s probably over-parsing, but listing the “Name of person” after already giving the name in item #1 seems like they’re starting a new list, that’s NOT just a continuation of the “verification” that was in #1.

If it was intended to be one solid sheet of “verification in lieu of a certified copy”, there wouldn’t be a need to reiterate who the verification was about. Switching to the “Name of person: Barack Hussein Obama II” format and starting that list with the name (which had already been stated) is a way to separate the first item from all the rest. A new list with a new format started on #2.

And it was never clarified exactly what that list is. With the exception of the “Name of person” to introduce the new list, the items in that list match those requested by Bennett to specifically be verified as FROM THE RECORD. The natural presumption is that these items - starting with “Name of person” even though that was never requested from the record - are all items as they appear on the record.

And the certifying statement at the bottom (which was put there by whoever initialed the document - an unidentified person whose initials can’t even be definitely known) says the record is the source for the verification.


90 posted on 05/26/2012 7:06:57 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

CORRECTION: The certifying statement says that the INFORMATION in the record is the source for the verification. Though #1 refers to the existence of a birth certificate, the (anonymous) certifying statement allows that the “verification” could have come from a computer file, for instance, or from multiple documents such as affidavits.

Which may also be why they started a new list. Items 2-12 may be from the “record” and not from the “birth certificate” mentioned in item #1.


91 posted on 05/26/2012 7:14:50 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
To me the whole thing looks like this:

1. If there was absolutely nothing untoward or weird or embarrassing or politically inexpedient about any of this, why go through all these machinations in order to keep the originals veiled--if there indeed are any originals to begin with (and all the rest of the etc., with regard to all the rest of the hidden documentation of his alleged past)? Why go through the legal danger of presenting laughable fakes in such a public manner? What does it mean when the penalties for fraud are seen as negligible compared to a full, unredacted release of something that can be verified by forensic experts in documents?

2. If the appearance of trying to cover things up and hide the truth, even to the point of posting fraudulent documents, is preferable to the truth being revealed, is it any wonder that anyone in any chain of command, so to speak, who has the ability to make things known or who is trying to get things revealed should be the recipient of extraordinary pressure to block access or to cease and desist in their efforts by Barry and his top buds? After all, Jeremiah Wright claims Obama tried to pay him, what was it, $150,000, just to keep his mouth shut until the election? And that wasn't to keep his mouth shut about anything he knew about Obama. It was just to shut up and not say any more of what he typically said every Sunday over those twenty years that Obama was a parishioner of a guy he looked up to like a father figure.

The only conclusions I can reach are either 1. Barry has a great need to do anything he can, even at the risk of putting himself in danger legally, just to eff with his opponents' heads or 2. there is something that suffuses his entire past that is of such a grave nature that it threatens his presidency and that he is willing to do anything to make sure that doesn't come out until he has completed what he got into office to do.
92 posted on 05/26/2012 10:16:25 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Well, there’s the possibility of 3. Both of the above.


93 posted on 05/26/2012 10:19:03 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

2. there is something that suffuses his entire past that is of such a grave nature that it threatens his presidency and that he is willing to do anything to make sure that doesn’t come out until he has completed what he got into office to do.


Yes and also number 1. His entire “life” is a lie.


94 posted on 05/26/2012 12:27:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: butterdezillion

Actually...what appears strange to me is the place of the comma.

Barack Hussein Obama II is supposed to be the full name. Isn’t it?

And I think everyone knows by now that my impression is that name is on the index because the kenyan and Anna had a child some six months before the famous birthdate, and that’s why Mary said she babysat for Anna.
Anna Obama wasn’t Stanley Ann Dunham as far as I can see and I’m sticking to it.
They can say the mother came from Witchita all they like, but there has to be a reason why they didn’t name her.


95 posted on 05/26/2012 2:03:56 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: butterdezillion
Enclosed please find a request for a verification in lieu of a certified copy for the birth record of Barack Hussein Obama II. In addition to the items to be verified in the attached form, please verify the following items from the record of birth:

*******

I'm confused by part of the statement above:

"In addition to the items to be verified in the attached form...."

What "items to be verified in the attached form" is Bennett talking about, because I don't see any "attached form" on the internet.

In other words, I would like to see the "attached form" that Bennett is talking about above.

If someone could help me, I would appreciate it.

96 posted on 05/27/2012 1:41:19 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: Seizethecarp; autumnraine

That “verification” is missing the DATE of birth, which is a glaring error.

The initials next to Onaka’s rubber-stamped signature, what do they mean?

Some say they’re “gk” but I think they could be “jk” as in “Just Kidding.”


97 posted on 05/27/2012 1:47:38 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

At the very least, why has the media supressed the story of Obama’s bio stating he was born in Kenya and the Connecticut SS#.


98 posted on 05/27/2012 4:32:24 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The First Bystander must be removed!)
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To: thecodont

At the very least, why has the media supressed the story of Obama’s bio stating he was born in Kenya and the Connecticut SS#.


99 posted on 05/27/2012 4:33:40 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The First Bystander must be removed!)
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To: thecodont

At the very least, why has the media supressed the story of Obama’s bio stating he was born in Kenya and the Connecticut SS#.


100 posted on 05/27/2012 4:44:40 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The First Bystander must be removed!)
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