Skip to comments.The unraveling myth of Watergate
Posted on 05/25/2012 4:01:28 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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I sat as a kid...watching the WaterGate hearings. At the end of the whole thing...my take was that a couple of guys broke into the Democratic office there at the WaterGate building, and that was mostly it. To pre-empt TV shows in the afternoon and carry this live across the nation...was silly and ridiculous. This was all a case that should have gone to some DC local courtroom. Obviously, I must have misunderstood the whole thing.
And I’ll add this...it has amazed ever since the hearings....that you can have Senators sitting around and acting like Judge and Jury.
Behold the real Watergate legacy, lost on the Left.
Unlike Watergate, a third-rate burglary where nobody died, over 300 people were murdered by guns our own DOJ sent to Mexican killer cartels.
And the MSM (American Pravda) helps to sweep it under the rug.
I've heard there's already a book out (don't recall the title) making the case that it's because Felt thought he should have been made Director of the FBI, and thus wanted to destroy Gray out of jealousy.
“Behold the real Watergate legacy, lost on the Left.”
But that is what the Left was clamoring for. Death and destruction are always a desired result for them.
And when speaking of Vietnam, the left will always mention Nixon in the same sentence. Not Kennedy nor Johnson. And Watergate? That was kids stuff when it came to Clinton.
It's not lost on the Left. It's consistent with the teaching of one of the Left's heros: "You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs."
ping for later...
There is a line in the movie Network, where a reporter is calling into the ‘newsreader’ giving information regarding the type of plane the US had used to intercept a middle eastern plane. His response, “Wow, I can say it here and they report it there as fact”.
The media at the time was orgasmic with the fact they could blow anything up to these proportions and literally stop a US President in his tracts all the while swaying the population into regarding every Republican as a “crook”. Hell, they’re still playing that old handbook. Guess it still works. But many are on to them!
As I recall, the failed break in was an attempt to get information on Democrats. That completely pales in comparison to the Republican FBI files that mysteriously showed up on Clintons desk. The left wing media has successfully altered the publics perception on what evil has actually gone on at the highest level as pointed out by someone with the Fast and Furious cover up. Watergate was NOTHING compared to what Democrats have gotten away with.
I still wonder why its so tough to prove the Liddy/Silent Coup thesis, which has all the earmarks of truth. Liddy has been sued twice, and won both times. Colodny was forced to retract SOME things about Dean, but its unclear due to the settlement with St. Martins exactly what he couldnt prove and what he could. So as of now it strongly appears they were looking for evidence on DEANs WIFE (fiancee) in the Watergate.
I covered Nixon et al for a national magazine in ‘72-’73, in Miami, and there were dark forces (liberalism, socialism) at work, trying to pull the Republic apart. They smelled the blood in the water and circled like sharks.
The Key Biscayne compound of Bebe Rebozo was an armed camp, when Nixon was frequently there - many times secretly - and even we in the Press Pool had severely limited access. No one was trusted, even those few of us who had worked for him and Lodge back in the losing ‘59-’60 GE.
Wiretaps, tailing by SS agents, stakeouts, mail intercepts, suspicion, mistrust, outright accusations, rumors, always looking over your shoulder etc were a daily part of the job. I was very afraid for the Nation’s future.
I left the Press in early ‘74 to start another career, and followed the resignation/pardon etc on TV, still very worried about our National stability and resolve to survive.
We did, but we were changed forever.72-
That was the immediate aftermath.
The long term implications are much more lasting - every two-bit ‘reporter’ dreaming of being Woodward.
We now have the modern day journalism doctrine (’making’ news to justify the ends) and Dan Rather’s courage.
Nixon’s real crime was the creation of a slew of alphabet agencies that forty years later are being used as extra-legal shock troops to bring the economy to its knees.
I got "Silent Coup" years ago. Every once in a while, I try to read it and figure out what the story actually is; I always give up in the end. Just not enough time to plow through the whole story.
Could you possibly summarize it here?
Watergate was the left’s revenge against Nixon for his taking out Helen Gahagan Douglas in the 1950 CA senate race along with his other anti-commie work.
I get so, so tired of hearing this bullsh!t over and over and over again. As they tell it, more specifically, Woodward, they felt such awe and solemnity blah, blah, blah at the prospect that their work might actually end up in, gasp!, the ousting of a President! Their integrity, respect for the process and the concept of true unbiased reporting, blah blah blah. I could puke!
A couple of self-serving, self-agrandizing, operatives who succeeded in making an Everest out of a turd pile.
In the grand scheme of things, the Watergate hype, is chickenfeed when compared with Clinton, and worse yet, Obama and Holder's treason. Yet, the media, as with the myth of the Kennedy Camelot, persist in idolizing something with no apparent substance because the sabotage worked.
I thought the count was over 2000?
What is amazing to me is that a 40-year-old burglary gets more MSM attention than a current mass-murder plot hatched by our own DOJ.
Over 2,000 guns, over 300 deaths.
I agree that “Silent Coup” made a strong case, and that Dean was mainly interested in protecting his wife Maureen and preventing knowledge of her work in a call-girl ring from coming to light.
re: Your comment on “why it’s so tough to prove”, my take is that you’re battling human nature and you can’t prove anything to most people if it’s frightening or challenges their world view. They simply won’t listen.
I have a copy of “Silent Coup” that Colodny autographed for me “back in the day”. It sits on my bookshelf alongside Terry Reed’s “Compromised” and Jayna Davis’ “The Third Terrorist”. Whenever I feel myself getting a little overly optimistic about “the people” waking up to the lies we’ve been told and the threats we face, I have only to glance at them to jolt me back into my natural state of skeptical cynicism... /g
Unfortunately for Nixon, he “inherited” all the American ill will over Vietnam that was directed at LBJ - who was the real architect of the debacle.
Had it not been for that fact, IMO, Watergate would never have caused all the ruckus it did and Nixon could have breezed through it and stayed in office.
The real tragedy for Nixon was that he allowed himself to become LBJ’s whipping boy.
I’ll never understand “today’s press.” You look back at the Watergate era, and see the reporting that was done, and then look at the accolades that have been heaped onto thosee key news figures since ... they are almost legends ... and you wonder why somebody in the press today doesn’t go after Obama. Talk about a “target rich” subject! You would think the possibility of notoriety, wealth and becoming a legend would cause some bright young report to break ranks with the liberal thinking and go make some real history. Are all of them THAT brain dead today ... surely there is just ONE somewhere?
The truth is just one version of history, and not the one that is usually accepted as true by the dumb masses.
Not silly to the opposition. Their goal was to destroy a Republican president and harm the Republican brand. That's all.
Meanwhile, Murdergate (Fast and Furious) goes ignored and Eric Holder defiantly throws his finger at the public and Congress.
Silent Coup is a 1992 book written by Len Colodny and Robert Gettlin in which they contend that former Nixon “White House counsel John Dean orchestrated the 1972 Watergate burglary at Democratic National Committee headquarters to protect his future wife, Maureen Biner, by removing information linking her to a call-girl ring that worked for the DNC. The authors also argued that Alexander Haig was not Deep Throat but was a key source for Bob Woodward, who as a Naval officer had briefed Haig at the White House in 1969 and 1970.”
I read the book and that is a good summary. Some of the other comments in the Wikipedia laughable, especially the criticism by WaPOSt. I listened to one very interesting Liddy Radio program long ago when he had as guests the police and private security people who investigated the break-in.
I believe the Silent Coup theory in its entirely.
Today’s MSM (ABCNNBCBS/NYT/WaPo/LAT etc) is all about protecting Obama.
Great reporting is being done by Jack Cashill, Corsi, etc, but the MSM (American Pravda) blocks it out.
Even Fast And Furious, a DOJ plot that led to over 300 murders.
You are absolutely correct. With the advent of high-profile TV news anchors, and the celebrity afforded Woodward and Bernstein because of Watergate, journalism became an attractive career choice for those who wanted to ‘be important’, ‘become celebrities’, or to ‘change the world’. In short, it became a nice career niche for narcissists. Add to that the incredibly lopsided ideological leanings of those in the mainstream media, and you have the formula for the disaster that our media has become.
Don't forget about Alger Hiss and the pumpkin papers. It was Nixon who brought the case against Hiss. Exposing Communist infiltration of the US government is always a dangerous thing and something the Left will never forget.
BTW I admit I could be wrong about this but didn't Bradlee start a communist newspaper in NH in the late fifties?
Jimmy Carter was a dream-come-true for the Soviets in the aftermath of the big political soap opera. Also, a new breed of superficial national news media led by the likes of Dan Rather (the real newspeople wanted to see Roger Mudd take the helm at CBS) would usher in a few decade of crummy reporting.
It has always made me shudder to see Bob Woodward interviewed on shows like Larry King as though he were some kind of elder statesman...ugh. I hope these new books turn the tide on misinformation that has dominated throughout the years.
My mother was glued to the TV during the Watergate hearings. It was the beginning of the MSM ascendancy over America,
It keeps me on my guard knowing those same types are still around...they haven’t been dormant. We are still in a fragile state, I’m afraid.
Thank you for sharing your insights.
Not only that, but these guys illegally accessed phone records to identify their White House targets.
And I believe 3 million southeast Asians lost their lives after the Democrats in Congress refused to support South Vietnam, passing a bill that US servicemen and women could not be deployed in Vietnam. Ford didn’t sign it, but he followed it.
What a waste after we won the war in Vietnam, only to lose the peace.
-—Behold the real Watergate legacy, lost on the Left.-—
I clearly remember the media constantly mocking the “domino theory.” I’m sure the Cambodians are still laughing.
I don’t recall the MSM apology.
The Democrats took it on the chin in the 1972 elections. The press went into overtime to save the Democrats. They took a little story and used it to attack the Republicans. I remember a girl in high school asking me to sign a petition calling for Nixon’s impeachment. I asked her what crime Nixon had committed. She didn’t know.
The break-in operations involved the planting of bugs and photographing of documents, and were orchestrated by the intelligence arm of the Committee to Re-elect the President.
Why is it that they had to be after anything in particular, whether material held closely by Lawrence F. O’Brien, dirt on Dean’s fiancee, or information on a kickback scheme involving the Democratic National Convention?
Wouldn’t the bugging and copying of documents be simply to gain any information that would be beneficial to the Campaign to Re-elect the President, whatever they found?
Perhaps a pair of young intrepid reporters or perhaps many of them have already gathered the goods on Obama. It may well have happened or be happening. But it would never be published and these intrepid young reporters would keep their jobs and not be totally socially and professionally destroyed only because they manage to swallow all that information and allow all digital and paper evidence they have collected to be destroyed by government agencies and by the publishers and editors through whom they would have to work.
The first movie was highly influential in drawing a huge wave of young leftists into a low paying career in news media. The Watergate scandal was the tipping point which destroyed journalism. But the 35 year old narcissist magnet has lost its pull. The dinosaur media is going bankrupt, so it's time for a re-make.
Nixon was a Patriot who got treated by the Left as they do to all who love this Land.
Afghanistan and Iraq = Viet Nam redux?
Sorry, poobear ... That was Albert Brooks in Broadcast News.
There is no need to read the entire book to discover the real reason for the Watergate break-in. Just read the center section titled "Golden Boy".
Absolutely correct 21C. Friday brain f@rts are forgivable aren’t they? My point still stands.
That I got.
I assumed, however, that there was more to the story than that. Mssrs. Colodny and Gettlin spend so much time in the early part of the book looking into to the Navy career of Bob Woodward, his job as a briefer for Al Haig, his divorce, his start in the newspaper business, his access to highly-classified information, etc. ... I thought that in the chapters following "Golden Boy," the authors would reveal some even darker secret, some larger plot.
After all, the name of the book, Silent Coup, implies that Nixon's fate resulted from a plot undertaken by shadowy figures who had much to gain by his removal from office.
I too used to listen to G. Gordon Liddy back in the 1990s, and I remember him talking about how he had been sued by Dean and how he had prevailed in that lawsuit. I also remember Mr. Liddy's fulsome disdain for Mr. Dean. Liddy seemed to believe that Dean was the cause of Watergate, that Watergate would never have happened without Dean, and that Dean cynically burned his employer and changed history for the worse in order to save his own skin.
As was I.
I get very concerned when people downplay the importance of a conspiracy to commit burglary and wiretapping using laundered money to buy silence which resulted in over sixty high officials being convicted of felonies, most of them lawyers and most of them convicted for perjury and obstruction of justice.
At the height of the revelations, we have Nixon apparently erasing 18 minutes of tape which must have contained information damaging to him far more so than all the information that had already come to light.
Clinton may well have been worse than Nixon. Obama is perhaps worse than Nixon. The problem is that we only know some of what Nixon did and indications are that there is much that was never revealed.
Therein is the true question. Why was the break-in planned, funded, and executed and more importantly, who? The reason that many believe caused the break-in is misleading.
The 1992 book, Silent Coup, written by two democrats, Len Colodny and Robert Gettlin reconciles all the facts, not just the cover-up, but also the reason for the break-in. The middle of the book in a section titled The Golden Boy contains the background for the break-in. It was not to wire tap Larry Obriens desk.
I had the opportunity to hear G. Gordon Liddys 20-year anniversary Watergate radio show. This June 17, 1992 show interviewed several interesting witness and revealed some of the suppressed evidence.
Those with a keen interest in the truth about the Watergate scandal have already read Silent Coup but may not have read Secret Agenda by Jim Hogan. Secret Agenda details the events surrounding the actual discovery of the break-in and resulting arrest.
Jim McCord came from the Howard Johnson across the street and entered the Watergate around 10:50 PM. The break-in schedule was for 10:00 PM after the office closed but an employee, Bruce Gibner, had stayed late to use the office WATS line to talk to his girlfriend in the Midwest. Jim McCord signed in with the destination of the Federal Reserve on the 8th floor.
The first break-in occurred on May 28, yes, there were two break-ins, but I am speaking of the second break-in on June 16, 17.
I doubt there will ever be a way to know everything about the break-in but there is enough substantiated information to know it was not for the purpose of obtaining information about Lawrence OBrien.
Like Jack Nicholson said in “A Few Good Men”, all the MSM did during Watergate was to “weaken a country.”
Occasional ‘brain farts’ serve only to demonstrate our humanity. Forgiveness is semi-automatic ...
This ‘old fart’ has been there, done that and has more than a few t-shirts to show for the experience.