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Earliest music instruments found (42,000 year-old flutes)
BBC ^ | 5/25/12

Posted on 05/25/2012 6:43:09 AM PDT by LibWhacker

Researchers have identified what they say are the oldest-known musical instruments in the world.

The flutes, made from bird bone and mammoth ivory, come from a cave in southern Germany which contains early evidence for the occupation of Europe by modern humans - Homo sapiens.

Scientists used carbon dating to show that the flutes were between 42,000 and 43,000 years old.

The findings are described in the Journal of Human Evolution.

A team led by Prof Tom Higham at Oxford University dated animal bones in the same ground layers as the flutes at Geissenkloesterle Cave in Germany's Swabian Jura.

Prof Nick Conard, the Tuebingen University researcher who identified the previous record-holder for oldest instrument in 2009, was excavator at the site.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: earliest; flutes; godsgravesglyphs; instruments; music

1 posted on 05/25/2012 6:43:22 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

“Music hath charms....”


2 posted on 05/25/2012 6:49:44 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Coyoteman

Doc, What do you think?


3 posted on 05/25/2012 6:50:07 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: LibWhacker
42,000 years old? My girlfriend probably remembers them being made...

"Yes I remember the flutes!"

4 posted on 05/25/2012 7:17:06 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: LibWhacker

5 posted on 05/25/2012 7:22:01 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: LibWhacker

6 posted on 05/25/2012 7:25:44 AM PDT by moovova (OBAMA: The first US President to come out of the closet.)
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To: LibWhacker

>>> Earliest music instruments found (42,000 year-old flutes)

However, music exists much longer than that.

That is because researchers can not find the evidence of ‘armpit music’s existence’.


7 posted on 05/25/2012 7:31:55 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: PGR88

No no no, that cannot possibly be a real album cover.


8 posted on 05/25/2012 7:35:09 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: LibWhacker

I wonder if they were used for music - as the article states - or if they were used in hunting where you could see them being immensely beneficial.

That’s actually an interesting question, now that I think about it. Did music evolve from leisure to battle, or from battle to leisure?

I could see it going either way.


9 posted on 05/25/2012 7:40:10 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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To: LibWhacker

Fascinating! Especially the part where the paleoentologists and archeologists conjecture that music provided the long term advantage the Cro-Magnons had over the Neandrethals. Sounds like this study was sponsored by your local symphony orchestra!

I especially found this statement amusing:

Music could have played a role in the maintenance of larger social networks, which may have helped our species expand their territory at the expense of the more conservative Neanderthals.

This sounds like something Public Radio would put out.


10 posted on 05/25/2012 7:49:48 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: LibWhacker
Before they were iconic


11 posted on 05/25/2012 8:16:30 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: LibWhacker

Wow......what was the guy’s name who played this - “Og G”?


12 posted on 05/25/2012 8:23:10 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: LibWhacker
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50513_213854954949_6579_n.jpg This one time, at band camp...
13 posted on 05/25/2012 8:34:48 AM PDT by roostercashews (A gun doesn't make you safer, but knowing how to use one does.)
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To: LibWhacker

14 posted on 05/25/2012 8:40:36 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Politics is fake. I think it's owned by Vince Mcmahon)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Whoa Black Betty! AMBER LAMPS!!!
15 posted on 05/25/2012 8:45:16 AM PDT by houeto (FReepathon 2Q! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I saw "Cave of Forgotten Dreams" about the cave art in Chauvet caves in southern France. (A very good movie, by the way) In one scene, there was a German archeologist who played a 20,000 year old flute made from a bird bone.

I think he might have reconstructed it because it was in perfect pitch when he played "America the Beautiful."

16 posted on 05/25/2012 9:06:31 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: houeto

17 posted on 05/25/2012 9:18:46 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: VanShuyten

That gives me chills! It is one of the mysteries I often ponder — when & how did music start?

Did it start with singing? With drums? Flutes? Horns?
What were the earliest tunes? As this article asks, was it for hunting, for war, for worship, for entertainment?

And then the next question: when did early people start writing it down? I remember reading about an ancient pot found in Greece that had early musical notation written on it.

I like to look at the sources of the hymns we sing in church. Many of them date from the 1800s and and great many more from the 1960s-1970s. Seldom do I see one that dates from the 1500s, and that is the earliest I’ve seen. The early ones are generally sung at Christmas.

Jes’ sayin’


18 posted on 05/25/2012 9:24:06 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Oztrich Boy
When I saw the pic you posted of that girl, the first thing that came to my mind was Amber Lamps. That came to be as an offshoot of the youtube Epic Beard Man where the 67 y.o vet whipped the thug on the bus. Just youtube them.

For the music video go to ebaumsworld and call up "Whoa Black Betty Amber Lamps". I laugh every time I see it.

19 posted on 05/25/2012 9:33:27 AM PDT by houeto (FReepathon 2Q! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Oztrich Boy

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80989568/


20 posted on 05/25/2012 9:39:42 AM PDT by houeto (FReepathon 2Q! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: VanShuyten

That gives me chills! It is one of the mysteries I often ponder — when & how did music start?

Did it start with singing? With drums? Flutes? Horns?
What were the earliest tunes? As this article asks, was it for hunting, for war, for worship, for entertainment?

And then the next question: when did early people start writing it down? I remember reading about an ancient pot found in Greece that had early musical notation written on it.

I like to look at the sources of the hymns we sing in church. Many of them date from the 1800s and and great many more from the 1960s-1970s. Seldom do I see one that dates from the 1500s, and that is the earliest I’ve seen. The early ones are generally sung at Christmas.

Jes’ sayin’


21 posted on 05/25/2012 9:47:29 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


22 posted on 05/25/2012 4:49:54 PM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Renfield for the ping, and thanks LibWhacker for posting the topic.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


23 posted on 05/26/2012 10:13:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Renfield; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Renfield for the ping, and thanks LibWhacker for posting the topic.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


24 posted on 05/26/2012 10:20:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Or...

Photobucket

25 posted on 05/26/2012 10:48:41 PM PDT by IYellAtMyTV (Je t'aime, faire du bruit comme le cochon.)
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To: Borges

Classical music ping...or paleoclassical anyway. Thought you might be interested in this one.


26 posted on 05/27/2012 4:04:13 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: houeto

I never knew that he was saying amber lamps.. thought it was bam-ba-lam or something..


27 posted on 05/27/2012 6:43:09 AM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: SunkenCiv

There is a huge chunk of human history missing somewhere.


28 posted on 05/27/2012 5:20:40 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks, Civ
It’s music to my ears!


29 posted on 05/27/2012 6:53:51 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: BenLurkin

It’s probably hiding behind one of my double posts. [blush]


30 posted on 05/28/2012 5:59:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: LibWhacker

So the sounds of birds seem to fill the wood
and when the flutist plays [and]
All their voices can be heard
long past their woodland days?


31 posted on 05/28/2012 6:04:08 AM PDT by Dysart (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke)
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