Skip to comments.Turn Out The Lights - Largest U.S. Cities Becoming Cesspools Of Filth, Decay And Wretchedness
Posted on 05/25/2012 9:05:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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That’s the case for many second and third-tier former mill towns across the country.
San Diego, El Paso and San Jose are three examples off the top of my head where that is simply not true. There have been many examples given of smaller cities that have a black majority and are crime-ridden - Pine Bluff AR and Helena-West Helena for example. East St. Louis and Gary are two more. Go to city-data.com and check it out. It has crime and demographic data for nearly every city and town in the US.
The cities with the smallest Black populations are Provo UT and Brownsville TX. Both have had corruption problems in recent years, if the newspapers aren't lying. Lowell MA manages to have fewer than 5,000 Blacks (under 5% of the population). Still, it doesn't have a reputation as the nicest place to live (sorry, if anybody out there does live there).
In 2010, Provo had 2 murders, Brownsvile (93% Hispanic) had 7 murders, and Lowell had just 1. The murder rates per 100,000 were 1.7, 3.9 and 1.0 respectively. They are safe cities.
None taken. You’re correct, the military is...well...uniform. Military towns however are quite diverse. The uniformity of the military does not extend to dependents by any means.
Portland, ME and Portland, OR have hard core Dem governments, and have for years. And if you cross the river to Windsor, ON, you have a government run by out-and-out socialists, who have done worse to GM than Detroit ever did. Likewise, Vancouver, BC, Montreal, PQ, and Halifax, NS are run by socialists and yet are most pleasant and agreeable places, with safe streets and abundant public services.
Are you sure that you are looking at the right variable?
I have said it out loud. You can look at the demographics of just about every city in the US and determine whether or not it's a crime-ridden city. I've put out challenges and even provided a website with all the data, but so far no one has provided an exception.
Not to me, you haven't. You don't think I've been following your every post on this subject, do you?
You can look at the demographics of just about every city in the US and determine whether or not it's a crime-ridden city.
Why don't you just spit out your point, and be done with it? Say what's on your mind, or quit.
If you're going to make a claim about what I've said or have not said on a thread, then yes, I expect you to have read my posts.
Why don't you just spit out your point, and be done with it? Say what's on your mind, or quit.
You don't give the orders around here, but to address your post... I did spit it out. How many times do I have to say it? See my response in post #110 to a question that was asked upthread, then refute my claims.
From listening to my nephews and nieces (both my B-I-L and my S-I-L were each career AF, and each of their families spent all of that time living in AF towns), I'm not sure about "any means."
They've all told me that, especially in school, any sort of expressed racial animosity was quickly corrected, and could bring repercussions to the parent.
They all said there was a forced artificial racial harmony that doesn't exist outside.
But the point is, as you say, "diversity" of BEHAVIOR isn't tolerated so much.
The reason lot of our large cities are rotting is that the liberals and bleeding hearts have created a large “dependent” class, who are happy to feed at the tax payer’s expense. They do not work hard to acquire marketable skills. Or start a small business and work 16 hours a day like many immigrants do.
Just a few days back I played golf with a person I had never seen before, and he is happy and content to collect his unemployment checks of $550 per week and play lot of golf until the benefit runs out. But at least he had worked for many years before getting laid off. Many people living in the decaying cities have never held a productive job.
I know what you are hinting at is that the reason our large cities are decaying is due to large black populations.]
Well, I have visited every port in the Caribbean during my 2 dozen or so cruises and most are populated by majority black people. Nowhere did I see anything resembling Detroit. I saw black people dressed in clean clothes, black kids walking to schools in clean uniforms, stores manned by well mannered and hard working black clerks, restaurants run by blacks, and generally houses that looked well cared for.
So my guess is the reason our cities are decaying is we have created a large dependent class and we pay them enough welfare to destroy any incentive to get your azz out to a job or acquire some skills.
As a force, you are right, it is hard to overcome.
Do you really think people are waking up? I think they may be but I also think they have also been brainwashed to the point of irrational fears about losing the dole.
I always tell my troops that when you are in doubt about what is the right thing to do pick the hardest choice you face. Most people haven’t the character to do the harder right that hurts them the most in the short term.
However if the question were modified to would you be relieved if you knew that group came out of a church Bible study as opposed to a night club, I would say yes.
Fair enough. If we could go back to post #110 which seems to have ruffled some feathers.
My reason for asking about the 'footsteps' (as well as public schools and neighborhoods) is that it supports my answer in post #110, which was in response to your original question.
No one here is going to send their kids to a public school in Camden NJ, or settle their family in a neighborhood in Detroit, or walk alone in East St. Louis. It is not over the top, IMO, to point out the elephant in the room, i.e. the demographics.
I hear you, and can’t disagree. Hopefully we can use the example of Europe imploding financially to help people “get it” and choose to tough it out.
You went to cruise ships ports that are as a rule exceptional..which is why cruise lines go there.....I can assure you that while St Johns and Philipsburg and Georgetown are pretty cute and fairly safe that Kingston, Port Au Prince and to a degree Port of Spain(east) and so forth are not...even Nassau Crime wave here
there is however less dependence class in the West Indies because it has never been instituted like here and there wasn't the money
when I was in the Caribbean frequently from 79-92 I found crime to be worse in Jamaica, Trinidad, Dom Rep, Haiti, USVI...only in town, Cartagena and Barranquilla, Belize City...but not dangerous, Curacao a bit...Aruba none...Antigua a bit too...and Bridgetown was not so great.
Jamaica could be pretty hard in Kingston or St Catherine or Clarendon parishes
This was a long ago but extensive...the more rural the safer and friendlier
I understand cruise ships are now very big business with their own local momentum..like gambling..and probably do contribute so much to their pit stops along the way
Tropical Africa has a worse failure rate than the Caribbean I would say ...but not like Haiti. It's pretty rough. Some here will claim Botswana is all peachy but it's still unsafe compared to here. I worked in Sierra Leone...you had to be there.
Black culture is in failure mode worldwide and aside from a few individual exceptions the future looks bleak and culture wise they are worse off than when we "oppressed" them.
folks denying these glaring truths isn't going to ever help improve things...excusing them and creating dependence only worsens it
frankly I don't think all peoples are equal anyhow and withing groups some rise and some don't and some groups are laden with risers and others not so much
all the world's groups of peoples are on different timelines civilisation wise..we cannot make it all the same overnight but it seems to me we are only making it worse
the whatever bigotry of white paternalism has been replaced by white doubt and submission and acquiescence...is that better?
doesn't look so to me and it cripples us in issues far beyond just black crime and illegitimacy
I have one question though...why do people always have conversation which desire to thwart discussion of black issues by whites but at the same time harp about how what whites do or think about blacks is key to how blacks progress or regress?
Are we saying blacks sink or swim depending on how whites treat them? It seems that way and that is a big chunk of the problem.
During segregation...I was there at the end....black culture functioned good comparatively and didn't need whites to angst over them...is there something to learn there?
Take the segregation, leave the self determination....course folks worldwide self segregate largely...can't change that though our media and entertainment culture have sure tried
note the tone of your post entropy...blacks are failing because we voted for governments that ruined them...like they are pets with no self determination...it's all because of govt policy
yet whites like myself are expected to prevail in spite of govt influence like that foisted on businessmen by Obama...why the difference of perspective?
excusing blacks or denying apparent truths like Detroit or Memphis or NOLA or today's Chicago killingshere yet again does not work
I do agree though that back in my day I detected little black on white hostility in the Caribbean...it reared it's head a bit...never in Haiti though even when I was around violence...I felt it most in Kingston and on Johnny Cay in San Andres Colombia oddly....a place local blacks would have had scant experience with American whites
Thank you for the long and thoughtful post. However we may be mixing two different issues, crime and urban decay.
Crime exists everywhere to some degree. But most urban areas worldwide are getting better in terms of decay, not worse. That is in stark contrast with certain bigger cities in US which are getting worse.
Even in the Caribbean cities are not showing manifestation of urban decay. The American blacks are a unique phenomenon. May be it has something to do with mentality formed by slavery. When slaves got paid nothing for work, human tendency would be to do as little as possible. When I arrived in this country in the early 60’s discrimination against blacks was ubiquitous. I worked in Chicago, and it was the most segregated city in country. My colleagues would sell their house in a hurry when first black family moved in the neighborhood. As more whites fled, property values dived . Having never witnessed such phenomena in the country where I grew up, it was a mystery to me why people would abandon well constructed houses and flee in fear. I am guessing that caused sub-prime people to move in who had no money to keep up the homes and that was beginning of urban decay.
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