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Are We Going Over a Cliff?
Townhall.com ^ | May 26, 2012 | John C. Goodman

Posted on 05/26/2012 4:10:44 AM PDT by Kaslin

Did you know the economy is going to fall back into another recession in the first half of next year? That’s the sad news coming from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), in a report released this week.

If current law remains unchanged, on January 1, 2013 American taxpayers will be hit with a whopping tax increase (mainly the expiration of the Bush tax cuts) and a major decrease in government spending (the result of last year’s budget deal) as well.

All told, we’re looking at a $500 billion double whammy. But aren’t economists recommending the opposite medicine? Won’t higher taxes and reduced spending dampen economic activity and slow down the current recovery? Exactly. You can think of the January 1st fiscal tsunami as a New Year’s Day "anti-stimulus" package. The CBO is predicting that the price we will pay for that package is a "double dip" recession.

But here is something even more disturbing. It turns out that uncertainty – not knowing what Washington is going to do about all this is worse than the reality. Will President Obama and the Congress agree to put off the tax increases? Will they agree to delay the spending cuts? Not knowing the answers to those questions appears to have more impact on the decisions of businesses and consumers than if everyone simply agreed to go ahead and let the bad things happen.

Historically, "uncertainty" has been a slippery concept in the vocabulary of economists. Everyone kind of knows what it means. But a precise definition has been impossible. Until now.

Economists at Stanford University and the University of Chicago have actually created an uncertainty index and they have tracked it over time for several decades.

Here’s what they found. Their measure of uncertainty soared during the Obama years, where it has been at its highest levels over the past 30 years. It’s not just uncertainty about what will happen next January that’s a problem. In many ways, the entire Obama presidency is the problem. Public policy uncertainty alone is the apparent cause of a peak decline of 2.2% in real GDP, a 13% decline in private investment and the loss of 2.5 million jobs over the past five years.

Put yourself in the position of a small business owner who is considering hiring additional employees. And remember: hiring full-time employees is not a short-term decision. You’ll probably lose money on them for the first 6 to 8 months (while they are in training) and hope to make it back over the following 2 to 3 years.

So peer down the economic landscape for the next few years and what do you see? For starters, you have no idea what your labor costs are going to be. You know that Obama Care will force you to buy expensive health insurance for you employees. But you have no idea what will be required or how expensive it will be. And because the Democrats in Congress were so sloppy in drafting the legislation, the entire health reform bill may be declared unconstitutional.

You have no idea what you non-labor costs of production will be because of another Obama legacy – regulatory agencies pushing the envelope to exceed the authority previous regulators thought they had. Environmental regulations deserve a special uncertainty category of their own. (We still don’t know if the Keystone pipeline will ever be approved.)

If you need a loan to help finance new equipment to provide to your newly hired workers, you have no idea if, or when, you will ever get it because Dodd/Frank financial regulations are putting a damper on business loans almost everywhere. And since those regulations are not even finalized, expect mattes to get worse, not better.

As for your cost of capital, do you know what the tax rate on dividends or interest income or corporate profits will be next year? No? Well, no one else knows either.

As for your personal tax rate, there is a lot to worry about there too. Democratic politicians almost never make a speech about the economy these days without mentioning the need for higher taxes. And the likely targets of this quest for more government revenue? Job creators, of course.

More than one commentator has noticed that our current "recovery" has been one of the slowest on record. Going back 60 years, we have had 11 recessions. The one we are in is at the bottom in terms of the speed at which we are getting back to normalcy.

Barack Obama doesn’t deserve all the blame for public policy uncertainty, of course. He has to deal with recalcitrant Republicans and unreliable Democratic allies in Congress. Still, I would give the president an "F" on his stewardship of the economy.


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1 posted on 05/26/2012 4:10:48 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
I am no Romney fan, but the most positive thing he has said was that if he wins, he will probably be a one term President because there are some drastic cuts he has to make.

The only cuts he can be referring to are Entitlements (SSDI, Welfare, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Section 8, AFDC, etc).

Those direct deposit checks and EBT cards eat up a whopping 71% of the Federal budget, and the number is going up exponentially.

Congress has so far been cowardly and ineffective at controlling this, but to be fair, our Community Organizer is a disaster.

The ONLY thing he has proposed "cutting" is health care to our nations veterans.

TRASHING TRICARE : OBAMA TO CUT HEALTHCARE BENEFITS FOR ACTIVE DUTY AND RETIRED US MILITARY!

With everything else, he is "giving it away" with both fists.

What needs to happen are massive cuts to Food Stamps, unemployment checks, complete cut off of money to illegal aliens, and about 10 million people needed to be kicked off the Social Security "Disability" lottery rolls.


2 posted on 05/26/2012 4:33:14 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot


Are you still killing your unborn?

-- GOD


 

3 posted on 05/26/2012 4:42:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Kaslin

Better take the keys from our reckless driver.


4 posted on 05/26/2012 4:43:25 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The First Bystander must be removed!)
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To: Kaslin

Better take the keys from our reckless driver.


5 posted on 05/26/2012 4:44:15 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The First Bystander must be removed!)
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To: Kaslin
Did you know that we are in a full blown depression and that the only reason that the government can deny it is that they borrowed 2.9 TRILLION dollars from the chicoms to spread the wealth to their marxist brethren and that money is now running out? If not for the phony baloney accounting tricks and outright lies... Americans would know that no matter what we do... we are screwed. Did you know that the Social Security program is not figured into the deficit? Did you know that there is now NO MONEY left in the program? Did you know that they have tried to balance the books by stealing those Social Security payments and using them to finance marxist agendas? So much knowledge... so few have it.

LLS

6 posted on 05/26/2012 4:50:04 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Elsie

Zechariah 7:11-13
  “But they refused to pay attention; stubbornly they turned their backs and covered their ears.  They made their hearts as hard as flint and would not listen to the law or to the words that the Lord Almighty had sent by his Spirit through the earlier prophets. So the Lord Almighty was very angry.



‘When I called, they did not listen;
     so when they called, I would not listen,’

         says the Lord Almighty.


7 posted on 05/26/2012 4:53:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: LibLieSlayer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq3wL8ZXjBU

... we are SO! screwed.


8 posted on 05/26/2012 4:56:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Did you know the unemployment rate in DC is over 51%?

Thanks for reporting this, Drudge. Now pulled


9 posted on 05/26/2012 5:08:09 AM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: Kaslin
Over the cliff; and hanging on by our thumbs.

Mitt will give America a 'hand up'.

(We know what Obama is compelled to do; to assure full 'change'. . .) Only one Morally Reasoned choice; for whom we vote to have 'on scene' for rescue.

10 posted on 05/26/2012 5:23:36 AM PDT by cricket (Calling Marco Rubio; Allen West. .. Newt ; because they are fearless. . .)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“Did you know that we are in a full blown depression . . .”

You are correct. The media doesn’t show us the “Obamavilles” spread around the country. Many older RV parks are filled with the permanent unemployed in dilapidated old travel trailers. Tent communities of unemployed exist in wooded areas near many southern cities. Soup lines would be long in every city and town were it not for the food stamp program which keeps us from seeing the 40+ million Americans who are either part of the permanent non-working population or the unemployed whose benefits have expired.

Our government and industry leaders made the decision to outsource much of America’s industrial capacity and over 20 million middle class manufacturing jobs over the last 20 years. Each of those manufacturing jobs would have another 3 private sector jobs in services and distribution associated with it for a total loss of 80 million private sector jobs. The consequences of the grand experiment in “free” trade are now plain to see:

1) Gutting of the American industrial infrastructure
2) The emergence of China as an economic and soon to be military rival of the United States.
3) Unprecedented debt throughout the US economy and an effectively bankrupt US government.
4) The permanent loss of tens of millions of middle class jobs and millions of workers dropping out of the workforce.
5) More than a decade of declining incomes for the majority of Americans for the first time in our history.
6) The emergence of a super wealthy elite class which controls the government and a significant amount of the economy. This elite class has more in common with the elites of other countries Its members prefer to invest America’s resources in social engineering and giveaways abroad instead of domestic economic expansion.

The benefits from the opening up of the US markets to mercantilist competitors have gone to other nations, Wall Street bankers, and Wal-Mart. The American middle class has paid the cost of this experiment in the form of lost opportunity, declining living standards, and less freedom.


11 posted on 05/26/2012 5:51:48 AM PDT by Soul of the South
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To: cricket

The Democrat party, controlled by a small faction of communists/socialists, is in a full out sprint for the cliff where they can leap into that factions oh so glorious utopia. The media, screaming and wetting their panties in excitement, cheering them on. The GOP-E and rinos, with Romney in the lead, are five yards back and mad as L that they wont be able to jump at the same time as their friends.

Both parties are well to the left of the political spectrum when they belong to the right of center. The Democrats slightly right of center and the Republicans further to the right.


12 posted on 05/26/2012 5:55:01 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: LibLieSlayer

http://www.squeegi.com/video.php?v=862887b6-9c80-11e0-be93-0025901cfe10


13 posted on 05/26/2012 5:56:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Kaslin
Marc Faber (100%) Guarantees A Global Recession
14 posted on 05/26/2012 5:58:23 AM PDT by blam
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To: SkyPilot

> “I am no Romney fan, but the most positive thing he has said was that if he wins, he will probably be a one term President because there are some drastic cuts he has to make.”

He said this to Rush Limbaugh and it was exactly made to order.

Romney can look you in the eye and say exactly what you want to hear.

Those who put any belief into what Romney says are fools.


15 posted on 05/26/2012 6:10:45 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Soul of the South

Your post is perfect. Spot on.


16 posted on 05/26/2012 7:14:06 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin
"Are We Going Over a Cliff?"

No. We've gone over - we're just waiting for impact.

17 posted on 05/26/2012 7:16:39 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t know about no cliff. I don’t know where we’re headed. But I’m curious as hell about that handbasket.


18 posted on 05/26/2012 7:28:32 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Note: Whoever stole my copy of MS Office, I will track you down. You have my Word.)
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To: Elsie
Yes... we are... check out

www.governmentgonewild.org

LLS

19 posted on 05/26/2012 7:32:56 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: silverleaf

They do not want America to know the truth until it is too late.

LLS


20 posted on 05/26/2012 7:33:52 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Hostage
Whatever.

I don't trust him either - I wanted Gingrich or Paul.

I won't vote for the Community Organizer, so I'll vote for the liberal Republican.

For the first time in my life, I don't think any politician or party can even make a dent in the iron wall we about to hit. I give Romney credit for at least telling Rush what needs to be done. Whether he does it or not, or even gets elected after Obama votes 10 million dead and illegals is the next big question.

21 posted on 05/26/2012 7:42:21 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Elsie

Thank you. I’ll check it after work today.

LLS


22 posted on 05/26/2012 8:00:51 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Kaslin; All
Thanks, Kaslin.

Back in the late 1970's, there was a small book entitled, "Freedom in a Nutshell," by Dr. Kenneth W. Ryker. It was, and is, a priceless work which was published in two parts by FEE, the Foundation for Economic Education, and now can be read in two parts, here, and here.

"Freedom in a Nutshell" should be widely distributed today to the youth of our country. They could look around them and see evidences of the truths he outlines in such simple, yet profound, terms.

23 posted on 05/26/2012 8:18:44 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Soul of the South

Your absolutely correct.

Add to that all the H1B-Visa’s, massive immigration (legal and illegal) and Outsourcing our Energy industry

In short the country is being drained of money and jobs and the average person is paying for it with a reduced standard of living and forced dependence on Government.


24 posted on 05/26/2012 9:09:44 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: Flag_This
"Are We Going Over a Cliff?"
No. We've gone over - we're just waiting for impact.

The obama economy:

25 posted on 05/26/2012 11:24:48 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Soul of the South

What we need is some video footage. I’m in the south. Which cities, and where are the tents?


26 posted on 05/26/2012 1:55:48 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: central_va; Soul of the South
Re-bump a good post.
27 posted on 05/26/2012 3:25:02 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Hostage
Romney can look you in the eye and say exactly what you want to hear. Those who put any belief into what Romney says are fools.

Exactly-right too bump.

The RiNO's want a turnaround guy who's slick-talking and two-faced. Anybody yet start wondering about the implications of that for what a Romney Administration would be like, and what the Yacht Club would expect such an administration, and such a President, to do?

Well?

We do really well, right, and come out smelling like a rose, right, with our liberties intact and a job for everyone who wants one, right? Right?

Or maybe not.

Their Plan A may be, let Romney lose ..... and wait. Wait for their big chance, to bring primogeniture and ironclad privilege (that they've all earned, you understand) to America's shores, so they can finally start getting their PROPS around here ..... as in, bring me my bags, boy. And don't expect a tip!

Something like that. Just a possibility. Like I say .... they know what they want, and what they're going to do, and what Romney's going to do. And you don't. Which is the whole idea.

28 posted on 05/26/2012 3:37:00 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: loveliberty2

Thank you SO much for your links regarding Freedom in a Nutshell (#23). Somehow I could not get Part two until I navigated from your link.


29 posted on 05/27/2012 5:38:33 AM PDT by YepYep (We've just GOT to love Jesus enough to LISTEN to Him, and Do what He Says)
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To: Elsie

Damn, I knew I should have changed my oil filter 30 years ago. :)


30 posted on 05/27/2012 5:48:59 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Soul of the South

Yeah I seen two or three interstate underpasses mannned with numberous tents. Obamatowns are springing up.


31 posted on 05/27/2012 5:52:00 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: catfish1957

numberous?...make that numerous


32 posted on 05/27/2012 5:52:53 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Soul of the South

All of that is true... and we get the annointed liberal to look to for help in changing it. We have an elite class of idiot rulers and tyrants controlling everything.

LLS


33 posted on 05/27/2012 6:36:06 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: YepYep
You're welcome for the links!! As you may have noticed when you were on the FEE web site, there are many, many other such simple and straightforward articles, essays, books, etc., available there which could help to inform folks today--especially young people who've never been exposed to the ideas of freedom versus those being forced upon us today.

One such piece is entitled, "I, PENCIL".

Referring friends, teachers, high school and college students to such writings might enable them to see through some of the redistributionist rhetoric which is bombarding their senses today.

Thanks, again.

34 posted on 05/27/2012 7:56:30 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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