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Christie Is Not One of Us
National Review Online ^ | 05/27/2012 | Andrew McCarthy

Posted on 05/27/2012 8:32:23 AM PDT by izzatzo

I feel something washing over me. I’m standing in New Jersey, so it’s probably red ink. No, wait a minute — it’s glowing ink! It could only be one thing: more conservative hagiography about the Garden State’s GOP governor.

Chris Christie is so not one of us that articles like “Christie Is One of Us” — a new contribution to the genre, from National Review’s Noah Glyn — are churned out regularly as the governor’s smitten admirers, from Ann Coulter to NR staffers, labor to convince us of what they’ve convinced themselves of: that an ostensibly gruff, internally milquetoast, progressive-lite, pro-Islamist Republican must be the second coming of Ronald Reagan because he has managed to make a basket-case blue state marginally less of a basket case. And “marginally” is the operative word. Glyn’s valentine to Christie is unfortunately timed. It was published just as Moody’s declared that Christie’s claim to have put New Jersey’s fiscal house in order is grossly overstated. More on that in a bit.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christie
An informative article about Governor "Tubby", and his pro-Islamist tendencies, among others, that do not bode well for Conservatism. The nut is, IMHO, Christie is another of the northeastern liberal GOP'ers who are no different than slightly "moderate"(if there are any) 'rats. This is what Conservatives get when Rockefeller Republicans control the party. As for Chris Christie's further advancement, NO THANKS.
1 posted on 05/27/2012 8:32:32 AM PDT by izzatzo
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To: izzatzo

More conservative Republican circular firing squad stuff. Don’t like Christie, don’t vote for him. But I would take Chris Christie over ANY Dim ANY day.


2 posted on 05/27/2012 8:38:44 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: izzatzo
So anyone above a certain weight is attacked for that, not for his or her policies? Do you realize that most Americans are either overweight or obese?
3 posted on 05/27/2012 8:39:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: izzatzo
the thing that is most consistent about christie is his zero like arrogance. He thinks he is so much smarter than everyone else and knows what is best for other people more than they do. Couple this with his gun grabbing mentality and he comes up looking like ‘one of them’ to me.
4 posted on 05/27/2012 8:40:10 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Vet, if you can’t get past the weight issue, not my problem, read the article and consider the more substantive issues/policies of CC. And, I’m not overweight, BTW.


5 posted on 05/27/2012 8:43:27 AM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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To: izzatzo

No doubt about it. Chubby may be the enemy of some of our enemies.....but he is not our friend.

A politician’s stand on gun control always defines them....and he is a spineless grabber. Wants to get his fat pudgies on my AR.


6 posted on 05/27/2012 8:44:23 AM PDT by Lowell1775
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To: izzatzo
"Gruff" or "tough"? To those who want "tough," may we examine words from an old warrior in the battle of ideas?

So-called "progressive" ideas are, in fact, regressive, for they advocate a failed philosophy which leads to tyranny and oppression, not to freedom, opportunity, productivity, and plenty. "Progressive" ideas are more aptly described by the word "socialist."

"We have to combat the wolf of socialism, and we shall be able to do it far more effectively as a pack of hounds than as a flock of sheep." - Winston Churchill, speech, 1937.

In the following quotations from Churchill, we can see thoughts of his on the subject dating from 1908 to the 1950's. Much of what is happening in America today is described within these words:

"When I see the present Socialist Government denouncing capitalism in all its forms, mocking with derision and contempt the tremendous free enterprise capitalist system on which the mighty production of the United States is founded, I cannot help feeling that as a nation we are not acting honorably or even honestly." - Winston Churchill, Woodford Green, July 10, 1948.

"We shall not allow the advance of society and economic well-being of the nation to be regulated and curtailed by the pace of the weakest bretheren among us. Proper incentives must be offered and full freedom given to the strong to use their strength in the commonweal. Initiative, enterprise, thrift, domestic foresight, contrivance, good housekeeping and natural ability must reap their just reward. On any other plan the population of this island will sink by disastrous and agonizing stages to a far lower standard of life and two-thirds of its present numbers." - Winston Churchill, speech, Blenheim Palace, August 4, 1947.

"The difference between what is seen and what is not seen was often noticed by the old economists. What is not seen is the infinite variety of individual transactions and decisions which, in a civilized society, within the framework of just and well-known laws, insure the advantage not only of the individual concerned, but of the community, and provide that general body of well-being constituting the wealth of nations. All this is blotted out by an over-riding State control, however imposing some of its manifestations may be. It is the vital creative impulse that that I deeply fear the doctrines and policy of the socialist Government have destroyed, or are rapidly destroying, in our national life. Nothing that they can plan and order and rush around enforcing will take its place. They have broken the mainspring, and until we get a new one the watch will not go." - Winston Churchill, speech, House of Commons, October 28, 1947.

"It is in the interest of the wage-earner to have many other alternatives open to him than service under one all-powerful employer called the State. He will be in a better position to bargain collectively and production will be more abundant; there will be more for all and more freedom for all when the wage earner is able, in the large majority of cases, to choose and change his work, and deal with a private employer who, like himself, is subject to the ordinary pressures of life and, like himself, is dependent upon his personal thrift, ingenuity and good-housekeeping." - Winston Churchill, speech, Blackpool, October 5, 1946

"Liberalism (classical liberalism) has its own history and its own tradition. Socialism has its own formulas and aims. Socialism seeks to pull down wealth; Liberalism seeks to raise up poverty. Socialism would destroy private interests; Liberalism would preserve private interests in the only way in which they can be safely and justly preserved, namely, by reconciling them with public right. Socialism would kill enterprise; Liberalism would rescue enterprise from the trammels of privilege and preference. Socialism assails the pre-eminence of the individual; Liberalism seeks, and shall seek more in the future, to build up a minimum standard for the mass. Socialism exalts the rule; Liberalism exalts the man. Socialism attacks capital; Liberalism attacks monopoly." - Winston Churchill, Kinnaird Hall, Dundee, May 14, 1908.

"The British nation now has to make one of the most momentous choices in its history. That choice is between two ways of life: between individual liberty and State domination: between concentration of ownership in the hands of the State and the extension of a property-owning democracy; between a policy of increasing restraint and a policy of liberating energy and ingenuity: between a policy of levelling down and a policy of finding opportunities for all to rise upwards from a basic standard." - Winston Churchill, speech in Woodford, England, January 28, 1950.

"It is curious that, while in the days of my youth I was much reproached with inconsistency and being changeable, I am now scolded for adhering to the same views I had early in life and even of repeating passages from speeches which I made long before most of you were born. Of course the world moves on and we dwell in a constantly changing climate of opinion. But the broad principles and truths of wise and sane political actions do not necessarily alter with the changing moods of a democratic electorate. Not everything changes. Two and two still make four, and I could give you many other instances which go to prove that all wisdom is not new wisdom." - Winston Churchill, speech, Bele vue, Manchester, December 6, 1947.

"It is not Parliament that should rule; it is the people who should rule through Parliament." - Winston Churchill, speech, House of Commons. November 11, 1947.

:Athough it is now put forward in the main by people who have a good grounding in the Liberalism and Radicalism of the early part of this century, there can be no doubt that Socialism is inseparably interwoven with Totalitarianism and the abject worship of the State. It is not alone that property, in all its forms, is struck at, but that liberty, in all its forms, is challenged by the fundamental conceptions of Socialism." - Winston Churchill, B.B.C radio address, June 4, 1945.

"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent vice of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries." - Winston Churchill, House of Commons, October 22, 1945.

"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston Churchill, Perth, May 28, 1948.

"I do not wonder that British youth is in revolt against the morbid doctrine that nothing matters but the equal sharing of miseries: that what used to be called the submerged tenth can only be rescued by bringing the other nine-tenths down to their level; against the folly that it is better that everyone should have half rations rather than that any by their exertions, or ability, should earn a second helping." - Winston Churchill, London, June 22, 1948.

"Socialism is based on the idea of an all-powerful State which owns everything, which plans everything, which distributes everything, and thus through its politicians and officials decides the daily life of the individual citizen." - Winston Churchill, London, January 21, 1950.

"The British and Americans do not war with races or governments as such. Tyranny, external or internal, is our foe whatever trappings and disguises it wears, whatever language it speaks, or perverts." - Winston Churchill, Speech, Dorchester Hotel, London, July 4, 1953.

"You may try to destroy wealth, and find that all you have done is to increase poverty." - Winston Churchill, speech, House of Commons. March 12, 1947.

"Nor should it be supposed as you would imagine, to read some of the Left-wing newspaper, that all Americans are multi-millionaires of Wall Street. If they were all multi-millionaires that would be no reason for condemning a system which has produced such material results.: - Winston Churchill, speech, Royal Albert Hall, London. April 21, 1948.

"Rich men, although valuable to the revenue, are not vital to a healthy state of society, but a society in which rich men are got rid of, from motives of jealousy, is not a healthy state." - Winston Churchill, speech, House of Commons, April 24, 1950.

7 posted on 05/27/2012 8:44:43 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: La Lydia

Nope, he’s not one of us, more like two or three of us.

I definitely wouldn’t like to be sitting next to him when flying coach.


8 posted on 05/27/2012 8:48:04 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: izzatzo
Even a Romney would be considered a conservative in a dumbass Leftist state like Joisey—don't care about Sopranoland anyway let them vote themselves to Hell.
Just don't you you RINO SOB Mitt!!! PICK another RINO as your Veep you yellow ‘Bama buttkissing bastard!!!

Gotta vote for your sorry ass because Obama wants my America dead so put a real conservative on your ticket so that I can save face by claiming I voted for HER (or him) and not YOU!!!

Or ain't you got even the one bit of smarts even McCain had in 2008?

9 posted on 05/27/2012 8:51:02 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("If an Evil be politically correct--none dare call it Evil.")
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To: Lowell1775

I’ll second that and move it be approved by acclamation.


10 posted on 05/27/2012 8:51:59 AM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...most Americans are either overweight or obese?"

The Governor is the latter however, like poster #2, I would take CC any day over any Progressive. I like his national message and pray he doesn't die in office, we need that voice.

11 posted on 05/27/2012 8:53:38 AM PDT by yoe (Proud to be part of the Tea Party movement.....!!!!!)
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To: izzatzo

I am, but that’s not my point. Why do we always go for the easy insult? We don’t make racist comments about Mr. Obama because it is considered (rightly) offensive, but many have no problem using weight or appearance to insult those they don’t like. This isn’t junior high school.


12 posted on 05/27/2012 8:53:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: izzatzo

Excellent article.
I admire Christie for facing down the greedy teachers union, but there’s more to conservatism than that. Christie is wishy-washy or flat out wrong on too many other issues important to conservatives for him to be taken seriously. He’s basically a Romney / Castle / Chafee / Jeffords / Snowe / Collins / Lugar Republican.
No freaking thanks.


13 posted on 05/27/2012 8:54:42 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: izzatzo
Thanks for the head's up. National Review (yes, and Online, too) is in "My Own Private Siberia," right now.

But there aren't many better periscopes up into reality than Andrew McCarthy.

Romney's people better register that they're borderline within the Conservative movement. Yesterday it was Jeb Bush, today it's the enormous problems bound to follow in the wake of a Chris Christie...

Maybe they're trying to make Mitch Daniels look good.

Objects in the mirror may be larger than they appear

14 posted on 05/27/2012 8:58:09 AM PDT by Prospero
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To: izzatzo
Andy better be careful or he'll find himself disappeared like John Derbyshire.
15 posted on 05/27/2012 9:15:38 AM PDT by mojito
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To: Prospero
Mitch Daniels is who Karl Rove (Bush brain) wants as Willard's Veep.

Mitt listens to Rove—who spells his first name like the founder of communism-a cryptic subliminal prophecy for us all if anything—cause Rove from the beginning bashed every conservative who opposed the RINO Romney from his so-called “objective” perch on Fox News.

Mitt has to pick a solid conservative VP like McCain did or even the most fearful of Obama’s Marxist destruction of America will say, “To Hell with it! Let the commie bastard win and then let's launch the next Revolutionary War For Independence!!!”

16 posted on 05/27/2012 9:26:49 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("If an Evil be politically correct--none dare call it Evil.")
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To: izzatzo
Christe was, is and will always be a ‘Rat trying to run as a Conservative....there is not one Conservative bone in that fat body....
17 posted on 05/27/2012 9:39:41 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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“Christe was, is and will always be a ‘Rat trying to run as a Conservative....there is not one Conservative bone in that fat body....”

I think the thousands of cops and teachers who were laid off since his election would disagree.

Christie has all the right enemies.


18 posted on 05/28/2012 5:58:58 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

And all the wrong priorities.


19 posted on 05/28/2012 6:45:47 PM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: rightwingextremist1776

“And all the wrong priorities.”

Stabilizing property taxes had to be # 1; without it there would be no taxpayers left for whatever priorities you think he should have. We couldn’t go on bleeding companies (and the Americans that worked for them).


20 posted on 05/29/2012 2:13:37 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
What has he CUT from the budget?

Not much....

Get back to me when he supports my second amendment rights as much as he supports Muslims and their mosques first amendment rights......

21 posted on 05/29/2012 4:32:23 PM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: kearnyirish2
What...no witty retort in defense of a RINO? ‘Rat got your tongue?

Christie is a certified RINO.....always been, always will be....sorry to burst your bubble, but maybe you should focus on ACTIONS instead of words. It's the telling factor when faced with RINOs masquerading as Conservatives.

22 posted on 05/30/2012 7:11:59 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Slow day?

I saw that it was upheld that “cost of living” adjustments weren’t guaranteed for people collecting gubmint pensions in NJ.

Get over it; apparently you’re unhappy that your guy Corzine lost.


23 posted on 05/30/2012 1:32:47 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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Na...not mine. Yours in a past time I'm sure...you fight like them. You never answer the charge, just deflect.

Let's just agree to disagree and call it a day. Christie is no “Conservative” and leave it at that. I do not know of ANY Goldwater/Reagan conservative that was soft (and I'm being polite) on the 2nd amendment...

Sorry...no dice.....talks a good game though.

24 posted on 05/30/2012 1:52:20 PM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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