Skip to comments.Michelle Obama sponsors Navy’s first submarine with all-female crew
Posted on 05/28/2012 4:32:46 PM PDT by beebuster2000
The USS Illinois, the first Navy submarine to be staffed by an all-female crew, received the support of the White House on Memorial Day.
On Monday, First Lady Michelle Obama officially sponsored the Virginia-class submarine, which will be one of the newest nuclear-powered boats scheduled to enter the fleet by 2015, according to a White House statement.
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The timeline is just the first problem.
The most senior officer among this women is a Lt.
Who gets fast tracked to CMDR SS in 3 years? LOL
I wonder if Obama’s daughters will be allowed to take command as a class project.
I am calling BS on the all female crew notion as reported.
There are 24 female officers in the pipeline.
You cant run a fast attack with 24 female officers alone.
RUSH: Elbert, Colorado. Richard, hello, sir. I really appreciate your patience. He's been holding on since before the program started.
CALLER: (chuckles) Thanks for taking my call, Rush.
RUSH: You bet, Richard.
CALLER: Hey, on a lighter note, do you remember back in 1989 when we had Manuel Noriega holed up in the Vatican embassy in Panama?
RUSH: Oh-ho-ho, yeah!
RUSH: Pineapple face, grapefruit face. Manuel Noriega was holed up in the Papal Nuncio down there.
CALLER: Yes, sir. And the Army set up these large speakers and used loud rock 'n' roll to drive him out. It drove him nuts. Well, I've got an idea for Wisconsin right now. Someone should set up speakers at the Wisconsin statehouse but not blast rock 'n' roll. Oh, no. They need to blast this show, the Rush Limbaugh show.
RUSH: I like it. I like it! That would be just so cool: People driving through there with their car windows down and this show blaring to these protesters to hear it? What a... Oh, that would tick 'em off!
RUSH: That would send 'em over the edge.
CALLER: Yes, sir. That would drive the union thugs out.
RUSH: That would be great. Richard, thanks very much. I appreciate that reminder. That was... In fact, it was that incident, ladies and gentlemen, that actually gave birth for an idea for which came on this program: The All-American First Cavalry Amazon Battalion. You remember that, Snerdley? This is back in the early days of the women in combat argument, and we here at the EIB Network, always wanting to find compromise, came up with a way to effect this: The All-American First Cavalry Amazon Battalion. Let's see if I can remember how it worked. We all know that women, when housed or grouped together over period of time end up having their menstrual cycles synchronized. We don't know why, but we just know it happens.
Then we decided: Let certain women into the military and have the certain kinds of women be housed at the same place, the same time over a period of time and therefore we would have a combat-ready group of women on PMS whenever we needed 'em, because of the miraculousness of the synchronized menstrual cycle. Now, the All-American First Cavalry Amazon Battalion consisted of feminazis, banshees, Amazons who wanted to go into war and so forth -- and we theorized, "If you want to get Noriega out of there," 'cause did the rock music work or was it just an irritant? I forget which. It might have worked.
But we speculated here, we theorized that Noriega sitting inside the Papal Nuncio and hearing Molly Yard shout, "This is an outrage!" and looking out the window and seeing the All-American First Cavalry Amazon Battalion headed your way, you might give up and immediately surrender. That's how this program effects compromise. We've been working at this since this program started: Finding mutual ways to achieve similar goals. Maybe if driving through Madison blaring this program is a bit much, how about blaring prayers? Sort of like Friday prayers in Cairo. Just have a bunch of people on loudspeakers praying. (interruption) I know these are liberals. (laughing) It could be considered assault.
And, BTW, have served on a submarine, I will state as fact that MOST women simply dont have the physical stamina to do the job.
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Well, we can definitely name this the
USS FIRST SWOB
it would be the protoype
Better be careful if the galley demands an unusual amount of turkey basters.
In the ‘old days’ we weren’t allowed personal radios or other electric devices.
Would imagine a whole compartment would be needed to store the ‘other’ batteries....
I keep coming back to this... If I’m wounded in battle and Justin Bieber is wounded in battle, whether it’s on a sub or on a battlefield on the surface, and a choice had to be made by all those pro-choice ladies, which one of us would the wenches save? Sorry, the answer to that question just doesn’t sit well with me and I would never in a million years join such a fighting force.
As a former sub nukey puke...I refuse to believe this...I refuse to believe this...I refuse to believe this...my head just exploded...
This has to be a joke.
It can not possibly work as submarines are supposed to go about their business unseen, unknown, silent and secret.
This one would surface at every ship siting in order to ask directions.
I think this may be an experiment worth trying.
Did you forget the sarcasm tag on purpose?
Most modern electrical gadgetry is rechargeable....not that I have any specific knowledge of certain types....
(what a doofus)
They could call it the PMS Pelosi.
Imagine if the captain said load the torpedo tubes with stuff to fool the destroyers into thinking the sub was destroyed? What would float to the surface: bras, panties, tampons, dildos.
Talk about going down...
The entire article is a load of crap!
It wont happen by 2015. No way.
A coed boat could happen, but its a BAD idea.
Non Qual jr officers ordering around qualified crew members?
What could go wrong?
Giving a new meaning to Crimson Tide every month!!!
I say group females separate from males across all military venues and specialties. That will reduce enlistments which is probably the goal anyway. Men will still be forced to serve with females and homosexuals and this will drive down male enlistments. It’s all about driving down enlistments so the United Nations can transform the U.S. into the ‘world force’ they’re looking for anyway.
the les boat will be a love boat.
One wonders if there will be enough volunteers that can pass the muster.
BEAT ME TO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is just another example of how the Obamas don’t understand how the military works. Michelle sees the all woman crew as a cute photo opp. The military is there to defend our country. She and Barack don’t understand how the military or any other part of the government functions and never will.
Not only do you have the orders DIVE and CRASH DIVE, now you will have MUFF DIVE!!!
Capt. Ramsey: Mr. COB!
Chief of the Boat: Yes, sir?
Capt. Ramsey: You’re aware of the name of this ship, aren’t you Mr. COB?
Chief of the Boat: Very aware, sir!
Capt. Ramsey: It bears a proud name, doesn’t it, Mr. COB?
Chief of the Boat: Very proud, sir!
Capt. Ramsey: It represents fine people.
Chief of the Boat: Very fine people, sir!
Capt. Ramsey: Who live in a fine, outstanding state.
Chief of the Boat: Outstanding, sir!
Capt. Ramsey: In the greatest country in the entire world.
Chief of the Boat: In the entire world, sir!
Capt. Ramsey: And what is that name, Mr. COB?
Chief of the Boat: Alabama, sir!
Capt. Ramsey: And what do we say?
Capt. Ramsey, Chief of the Boat: Go Bama!
All: Roll Tide!
The strength factor. Everything is heavy on ships/subs. On a mixed u-boat the gals would have male help not so with an all girl crew.
The Army had problems with women crews driving trucks because most could not change the tires.
And the Submarine brings special Psychological factors that are hard enough to overcome without distraction.
I’d love to watch an all female crew attempt a TDU weight load out....or even just a standard ship’s stores load. All that stuff is brought down by hand.
Hell, I’d like to see almost any female pick up just one box of TDU weights.
On a sub there is no time for chivalry.
You all be dead.
Don’t we need an all-black sub, too? And a gay sub?
Isn’t Affirmative Action wonderful?
Pray for Our Troops
Spin up tubes one through four, target package designated Mike Echo November (MEN)...
You’re right in your (implied) statement that lesbian fraternization may be (heck, probably WILL be) a problem. However, now that it’s “everything goes” for gay men in the service as well, that exact same problem will exist with all-male sub crews.
So. What’s your solution?
Women have not yet been crew members on US Navy subs.
Therefore, an all woman crew is totally without sub experience. Not just the ensigns and seamen; everyone.
Skipper, XO, all division heads, all chiefs, all engineers, pipefitters, etc.
Really DUMB idea, but it will sure make Obama, Michelle, Pelosi, Rachael Maddow et al. feel good about the “100 Fathom Ceiling” finally being broken for women.
Yep. It wasn't likely - you wouldn't need only a training pipeline full of women but ones who were already qualified and experienced - E3 through E8 and department-head level officers. They're just not there. And you can't run a submarine without them.
Even now, after five decades of coeducational experience in the surface Navy, it'd be tough to run an all-woman ship, at least for very long. The simple act of manning (sorry) a ship from the pool of existing sailors precludes that sort of selectivity - people qualify, are promoted, transfer in and out, leave the Navy for civilian life; it isn't a static problem. Maintaining readiness under that sort of flux is the Navy's primary personnel challenge.
I do see that Nuclear Power School graduated some women last year. That's a start, but it's a very small one. My congratulations to the graduates - that's a really tough course.
I can parallel park in places my husband won’t even think about parking! I do a darned good job of it, too.
Non-qual junior officers are typically rather meek and quiet...every once in awhile you get a real A-hole though. They can only throw their weight around so much before getting squashed by the higher-ups. This is one of the very unique characteristics of submarine life. The officer/enlisted relationship is unlike any other Navy billet. Those who haven’t served on a boat simply have no idea.
“The strength factor. Everything is heavy on ships/subs. On a mixed u-boat the gals would have male help not so with an all girl crew. The Army had problems with women crews driving trucks because most could not change the tires.”
This is the first SENSIBLE criticism I’ve read on this thread.
>>Coming up on tonights 10 Oclock News, military leaders in Moscow are on high alert due to intelligence reports indicating its that time of the month aboard the American Navy submarine Illinois. ...
That may not be as funny as it looks at first glance. There are studies that show that women who work in close proximity tend to get on the same schedule! That could really happen!
Hah! the first time I went out, I was hot racking with my sea pappy.
He thought it would be funny to slip a TDU weight into the rack pan each day.
The damn thing just kept getting heavier and heavier.
I thought the sheets and stuff were bunching up in the hinges and just kept grunting away at it.
Anywhoo he finally got fed up with it after about a month because he had to deal with it too and he told me I was a dumbass for not figuring it out. LoL
There were plenty of TDU weights because some dumb asses forgot to load out the TDU tubes.
We ended up securing one of the showers to store the dry refuse we could not jettison on station.
You need experienced people to teach new sailors, a Chief of the Boat and a Chief's mess to run things, diving officers, a good Chief Engineer. None of those exist with only three years in submarines. You may be able to get a competent CHENG from the nuke surface fleet, but she isn't going to know anything about making a submarine go other than making steam with the reactor.
Gives new meaning to “blowing sans”.
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Where will they get the crew to run this boat? It is not that easy and requires a number of skilled people trained as nuclear equipment operators, machinist, torpedos and then there is the diving and surfacing of the boat. This requires lot of experience to safely do it. I know being a Chief of the Watch, and eventually a Diving Officer. on a 8,000 ton boat (USS TRITON). This would require a bunch of split tails getting experience on other boats prior to that sub.
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