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Distraught over dog's shooting by Fort Worth police officers
Startegram ^ | 5-28-12 | Barry Shlachter and Anna M. Tinsley

Posted on 05/28/2012 6:19:43 PM PDT by Dysart

Twenty-four hours after a police officer shot Lily, a 5-year-old Border Collie-English Setter mix, its owners still don't understand why the police officer was on their property and why he used lethal force.

... had just returned from a shopping trip and their two dogs had slipped into their truck, then into the garage, before re-emerging when an officer walked up the driveway...

Asked by the officer to control his two dogs, Mark Boling urged him not to advance, but he did. "My dogs don't bite, They're not going to hurt you," Boling, 52, an electronics technician with a defense contractor, recalled saying. "They're just going to run up to you."

A statement issued by police spokesman Sgt. Pedro Criado said the officer waited by the driveway when two barking dogs charged him in an aggressive manner while he repeatedly asked a male at the house to call the animals back. Then the unnamed officer jumped onto the porch pillar.

"As the dogs were getting closer to attack/bite the officer, the officer fired his service weapon, striking the dog closest to him," the spokesman said.

Boling said he had gained control of one of the dogs by the time the officer raised his gun, "Then I hear my wife yelling, 'Don't shoot my baby, please don't hurt my baby!"

From above the dog, the officer fired once, striking the 5-year-old mixed breed on the back. It dashed to the back yard where it bled to death within three minutes.

"You'd better check on your dog," she quoted the officer as responding.

But the policeman still had the gun raised and pointed toward her husband and surviving dog, she asserted.

"Why are you on my property — I didn't call you," Boling recalls asking.

(Excerpt) Read more at star-telegram.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: assholecop; corruption; dogs; donutwatch; execution; jbt; killed; power; roguecop; warondogs
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To: arthurus

Even knowing how to say the phrase “I felt threatened” should disqualify a person from being a cop.

They’re supposed to be the fearless, selfless heroes who protect those of us who might *actually* “feel threatened” by someone/thing.


51 posted on 05/28/2012 8:02:39 PM PDT by Salamander (Holy muscle of love.....I got a muscle of love.)
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To: Thumper1960
Great story. I wish everyone understood dogs as well as you.
52 posted on 05/28/2012 8:06:09 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Dysart
I can't remember the last time I saw a news story about a cop that saved a life or took down a vicious criminal.

However, it's almost daily that I read a news story about a cop that terrorizes a law abiding citizen or even an entire family.

We're becoming a corrupt banana republic.

53 posted on 05/28/2012 8:06:31 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Dallas59
Twenty-four hours after a police officer shot Lily, a 5-year-old Border Collie-English Setter mix...

Obama was sad to hear about this - offered to bring over a barbeque grill...

54 posted on 05/28/2012 8:08:19 PM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
yeah, like before he shoots a person...
55 posted on 05/28/2012 8:12:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: altura

Fear. Training. Both complicated by reports of a “Pitbull” on scene all compounded drove this tragedy. He just reacted more than he assessed. Just my supposition. At some point sound judgment has to influence training and reactions. (And how abt reviewing SOP in these matters nationwide) This hoped for good judgment might well have lead the officer to the correct address. And sadly, a deceased PB type dog I reckon if it existed.


56 posted on 05/28/2012 8:13:58 PM PDT by Dysart (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Dysart

I have heard that the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia shot family dogs that lived under homes (homes were on stilts) because the dogs would warn the families of an approaching person (enemy). The KR would then listen to what was being said in the home and arrest people for speaking against the government.

There’s something about all this dog shooting that feels the same.

Poor, sweet, beautiful dog.


57 posted on 05/28/2012 8:14:21 PM PDT by madison10 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. TJ)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Not all facts in evidence but what are, seems like a good case for wrongful death, doubtless profound sentimental damages to a family- and maybe some lessons can be learned. Procedures scrapped and revamped entirely.


58 posted on 05/28/2012 8:19:27 PM PDT by Dysart (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Dysart; donna

Not likely to be retracted.

LEO has decided it’s us vs. them.

Hard to give a damn when one of ‘them’ (And remember, THEY chose this battle, not us) is killed.

They’ve decided to become, and act, as just another street gang.


59 posted on 05/28/2012 8:24:19 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: CrazyIvan

One would think that with all the training police and first responders are required to take and pass, they’d have a rudimentary understanding of the clear signs a dog will display-aggression, fear, apprehension, playfulness, contentment, etc. Dogs will tell us their state of mind by their tail, posture, ears, eyes, maul, etc. Testosterone laden LEOs who display innappropriate aggression may well light the fire that will force a pack animal to defend his or her pack and territory. Perhaps if cops carried more dog bisquits than hollowpoints, fewer senseless canine executions would occur.


60 posted on 05/28/2012 8:26:28 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Dysart; donna

Some circumstantial evidence supporting my earlier assertions: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2888919/posts


61 posted on 05/28/2012 8:26:53 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Chode

The Border Collie was more intelligent than the cop....just not faster than a bullet.


62 posted on 05/28/2012 8:28:31 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Dysart
I keep wondering how many more incidents of cretins with a badge shoot a family pet, before a pet owner finally feels threatened and unloads an 870 into the cop.

Sooner or later, the day will come. Book it.

"We are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of Nature has placed in our power..... the battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave."

--Patrick Henry, to the Virginia Convention, March 23, 1775


63 posted on 05/28/2012 8:31:40 PM PDT by Viking2002 ("Always with the negative waves, Moriarty, always with the negative waves!" - Sgt. Oddball)
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To: Dysart

I just don’t understand this. I thought cops loved dogs. I also don’t understand why so many of them are going to the wrong addresses.


64 posted on 05/28/2012 8:36:04 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Salamander

Oh, no. Pit Border Collies may become the latest target of the ban breeders. I’ve seen kennel owners and hotels and dog trainers and property managers, et al prohibiting crossbred Pit Bull type dogs to include Pit/Chow mixes; Pit/GSD mixes; PB/Akita mixes; PB/Dobbie mixes; PB/Rotty mixes; PB/Boxer mixes; PB/Husky mixes...and more. PB/Border Collie mutts are not beyond the pale of banishment. Have you seen the brutality they can inflict upon frisbees, their own tail and the common housefly? SHHHHH before the word gets out.


65 posted on 05/28/2012 8:37:15 PM PDT by Dysart (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke)
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To: freekitty

What kind of message are they sending?


66 posted on 05/28/2012 8:37:15 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Dysart

This has become an increasingly serious problem.

We NEED civilian review boards. And they NEED to have the power to REMOVE cops like the pigs who shot this dog or break into the WRONG apartment or house in a drug raid FROM OFFICE with NO BENEFITS remaining to them. Cops are no longer “professionals” . They are just another brand of civil service union thug - the most dangerous kind - the kind with a gun and the willingness to employ it with arrogance and contempt.

Look, a Democracy only works if the people MAKE it work. Modern day Americans have become increasingly more and more willing to allow bureaucrats, law enforcement GESTAPO types, crooked power mad politicians and arrogant judges dictate the kind of society they live in.

ITS NOT THEIR COUNTRY!!!!! ITS NOT THEIR GOVERNMENT!!!!

ITS OURS AND WE NEED TO TAKE IT BACK!!!!!!!!!!!
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!


67 posted on 05/28/2012 8:40:49 PM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: Viking2002
Already happened.

http://suite101.com/article/police-officer-killed-george-hitcho-jr-alleged-shooter-a406605

68 posted on 05/28/2012 8:49:54 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: donna

While I don’t have this attitude yet, if cops expect us to “give a damn”, then they better stop acting like little hitlers and killing our dogs and family members while bustin in on the wrong addresses.

Get mad, if you want but some of us are getting mad right back.


69 posted on 05/28/2012 8:53:04 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: ZULU

B U M P


70 posted on 05/28/2012 8:53:30 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: freekitty

Re: wrong address phenomenon- Maybe coursing adrenaline and poor performance under pressure clouding already suspect judgment. Also, simple matter of poor officer material to begin with per chance. Sorry FWPD but if the shoe fits...


71 posted on 05/28/2012 8:55:46 PM PDT by Dysart (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke)
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To: freeangel

Cops go to the wrong adrdress so many times a day now, that you are asking for pictures of most police in America.

I see an article almost every day about cops busting in the wrong address and nothing is ever done about it.


72 posted on 05/28/2012 8:56:06 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: Paladin2
'The Pennsylvania State Police obtained a search warrant. They found a bullet-proof vest, several marijuana plants, bags of loose marijuana, a cigar tube full of marijuana seeds, other containers with seeds a spiked club, a knotted tree branch, three rifles, a 12-gauge shotgun with three live shells, a Marlin 30-30 rifle, a Ruger M77 bolt-action rifle, a Winchester M94 lever-action rifle, a Rossi .38-caliber revolver, various bullets and shotgun shells, smoking pipes, a bong, a dufflebag filled with ammunition, a club, keys, a metal tube with white residue, a grinder, a scale and two safes.

My bad - I should have been more specific. I meant someone of the same species.

"We are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of Nature has placed in our power..... the battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave."

--Patrick Henry, to the Virginia Convention, March 23, 1775


73 posted on 05/28/2012 8:56:06 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: Viking2002
Uh, the cop's boss said "Shoot 'em" not knowing that the cop only had his taser out.

Most law is made based on cases at the margin.

It's apparently an endemic problem.

74 posted on 05/28/2012 8:59:06 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Viking2002

Hitcho is less of a dirtbag than 0bama. Bo should not be shot, even if Zer0 can’t control him.


75 posted on 05/28/2012 9:11:17 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
Urkel would probably just eat him.

"We are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of Nature has placed in our power..... the battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave."

--Patrick Henry, to the Virginia Convention, March 23, 1775


76 posted on 05/28/2012 9:16:28 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Thanks. See:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2888935/posts

What would THEY (the Hains) think if they could see what WE have allowed these bureaucratic technocrats and Gestapo types to do with the liberty they so dearly bought? They DIED for it and we can’t even SPEAK OUT for it??


77 posted on 05/28/2012 9:17:37 PM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: ZULU

Exactly


78 posted on 05/28/2012 9:22:11 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Dysart

Somebody should come up with a sarcastic type of medal for these cops who shoot dogs.


79 posted on 05/28/2012 9:28:52 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: Balding_Eagle; packrat35

This is a local issue that you all could handle as good citizens on the local level.

You should keep in mind that illegal alien human traffickers are training attack dogs and keeping them ready to attack cops.

On the national level, you could take a stand against open borders.


80 posted on 05/28/2012 9:30:54 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: Dysart

After a policeman on my property, who was told to leave, pulled out his service revolver and fired it killing my dog, I felt so threatened, that I went in my house, got my gun, and shot the officer dead, before he could kill me and or my family.

Actually if this happened to me, I would immediately kill him with my bare hands. (if I were a violent person, that is).


81 posted on 05/28/2012 9:30:54 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Lion Den Dan
That is absolutely going to happen one of these days. And many potential jurors would be pretty lenient under the circumstances. Depending on the timing I might vote for manslaughter. maybe.
82 posted on 05/28/2012 9:31:19 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: donna
“You should keep in mind that illegal alien human traffickers are training attack dogs and keeping them ready to attack cops.”

Nonsense! He was investigating a “copper” robbery, not illegals with attack dogs. Just shoot every dog you see since it MIGHT be a trafficers attack dog. None of these recent dog killings by coward cops have been traffickers attack dogs.

83 posted on 05/28/2012 9:38:17 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Dysart

It is my belief the property owner would have been within his rights if he had shot the cop. The cop showed up unannounced and his presence was not requested. He could have been a home invader impersonating a cop. He sure as hell didn’t act like a cop.

FLAME AWAY!


84 posted on 05/28/2012 9:39:26 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: tumblindice

““I started hanging up on cop charities long ago.”

Yes, but from now on I’m going to tell them when they stop shooting peoples pets and actual people with legal gun permits, I might reconsider.


85 posted on 05/28/2012 9:44:20 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Dysart

this will continue until people begin shooting cops who come onto their property to shoot their dogs


86 posted on 05/28/2012 10:00:27 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: freeangel

Now, I want to see a picture of the cop that did the shooting who is an example of our school system in that he can’t even read a damn address.

Pretty well what I expected.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2888889/posts?page=25#25


87 posted on 05/28/2012 10:09:10 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: Dysart

Can you imagine the sheer horror of a Pit/Chihuahua cross?

{{{{shudder}}}}

The blood runs cold at the very thought of such a beast.


88 posted on 05/28/2012 10:11:50 PM PDT by Salamander (Holy muscle of love.....I got a muscle of love.)
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To: Thumper1960
One would think that with all the training police and first responders are required to take and pass, they’d have a rudimentary understanding of the clear signs a dog will display-aggression, fear, apprehension, playfulness, contentment, etc.

Not only that, some very basic training on handling/psychology. I think back 6 months or so ago to the cop that reached for a dog's throat to check it's tag. You can guess the outcome. I't like to ask that cop how she would react if a stranger grabbed for her throat.

89 posted on 05/28/2012 10:13:29 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: freekitty

“What kind of message are they sending?”

“Submit or die”?


90 posted on 05/28/2012 10:13:39 PM PDT by Salamander (Holy muscle of love.....I got a muscle of love.)
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To: Dallas59

“Some cops are just plain dumb.”

A LOT of cops are just plain dumb and brutal and thuggish. Thank affirmative action for easing the requirements to be a cop in the 1980s so more of Barry’s ‘peeps could be hired. As a kid I was taught to admire and respect cops. My reaction today when a cop gets shot is, “I wonder what I want for dinner?”


91 posted on 05/28/2012 10:20:55 PM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: faucetman

Who do you think is stealing copper?


92 posted on 05/28/2012 10:24:44 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: donna

coppers?


93 posted on 05/28/2012 10:26:21 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Dallas59
Some cops are just plain dumb.

So you think the reason he killed someone's pet was due to being dumb? No one here is buying that one.

94 posted on 05/28/2012 10:29:03 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: SkyDancer

95 posted on 05/28/2012 10:35:06 PM PDT by Salamander (Holy muscle of love.....I got a muscle of love.)
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To: Student0165

NWA had it right back in 88, Fu— The Police! And proudly I say to this day I prescribe to that sentiment. From Ruby Ridge to Waco to all the dog shootings. I have no respect for the Pigs any more.


96 posted on 05/28/2012 11:02:20 PM PDT by crazydad
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To: 43north

I doubt he really thought the dog was any of the bully breeds.

More likely, he used that as an excuse to cover for the enjoyment he gets from shooting dogs.

He should be removed from the force, jailed, and whatever his yearly salary is, it should be given to the dog’s owners.

Do THAT every time a dog is shot, and the “procedure” will stop faster than you can say “molasses”.


97 posted on 05/29/2012 12:29:11 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Salamander

I always knew those pit border collies were a menace to society.


98 posted on 05/29/2012 12:31:48 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Thumper1960

99 posted on 05/29/2012 12:34:54 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: donna

Cops shooting housedogs is occurring nationally, not locally.

Stop defending bad cops.


100 posted on 05/29/2012 12:38:53 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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