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Three of Mitt Romney's emerging strengths
IBD Editorials ^ | May 29, 2012 | ANDREW MALCOM

Posted on 05/29/2012 5:11:19 PM PDT by Kaslin

With summer officially underway and only 161 days left before the presidential election, it's a good time to take inventory of Mitt Romney's chances of sending Barack Obama into early retirement a la Jimmy Carter.

The MSM has made much of Obama's commanding poll leads among blacks and Latinos. Romney was supposed to be vulnerable among evangelicals, until Obama's same-sex wedding gift. We heard a lot about Obama's strength among women, until it started to fade.

No one knows, of course, but conventional wisdom today holds the Nov. 6 outcome will be close. Unless it isn't. And then we'll hear all about why it wasn't.

You don't hear much about Romney's strengths these days, but what can we discern right now about them and their scope?

Well, economics and jobs have been atop virtually every opinion poll since Obama took office and began his determined drive for pretty much anything else. Gallup asked people recently to describe their economic views. By more than a two-to-one margin (46%-20%) Americans called themselves some shade of conservative instead of liberal. Even moderates (32%) outnumbered liberals.

On social issues the gap was closer (38%-28%), but conservatives still outweighed the spendthrifts.

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1 posted on 05/29/2012 5:11:26 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Romney will win but it will be due to who Obama is, not who Romney is.


2 posted on 05/29/2012 5:14:46 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Kaslin

Milt is vulnerable because he won unfairly over scorched
conservatives, and he authored, himself, RomneyCARE.

Worse, Milt performed very, very poorly as governor
and appointed all DNC judges.


3 posted on 05/29/2012 5:15:04 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: freedomfiter2
"Romney will win but it will be due to who Obama is, not who Romney is."

Yes. Exactly.

4 posted on 05/29/2012 5:28:44 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: Kaslin

Here on FR, Romney was accused of being behind the fall of Herman Cain and Rick Perry, among others. Perhaps that was true. If so, it means he’s willing to fight dirty, and who was the last Republican Presidential candidate who was willing to do that?


5 posted on 05/29/2012 5:36:52 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: freedomfiter2
Somebody needs to come up with a clever bumper sticker graphic:

Romney, because he ain't Obama


6 posted on 05/29/2012 5:38:41 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: ChocChipCookie

Puhleze, Romney DEFENDS Obama.

On the lack of Obama’s valid BC.
On Obama’s TARP.
On ObamaCARE=RomneyCARE.

Romney ONLY attacks conservatives, especially
the little children and the women, and he
does it through paid surrogates.


7 posted on 05/29/2012 5:41:09 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Diogenesis

Stop it. Enough is enough


8 posted on 05/29/2012 5:46:46 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Romney, because ALL Obama has to offer is a sweet baritone voice (unfortunately that’s ALL the young folk care about)


9 posted on 05/29/2012 5:48:01 PM PDT by cookcounty ("We're all born idiots, and we only get over that condition as we get less young." -J Goldberg)
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To: Diogenesis

We’ll see. I’ve never forgiven McCain for refusing to fight back and actually encouraged people to vote for Obama! And please cite an instance of Romney attacking little children and women.


10 posted on 05/29/2012 5:48:21 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: Kaslin

No.. its NOT enough... Romney is a socialist...

The convention needs to be brokered... We are NOT going to shut up. we are not going to support a socialist.

The GOP better figure this out FAST...


11 posted on 05/29/2012 6:00:36 PM PDT by myself6
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To: ChocChipCookie; Diogenesis
And please cite an instance of Romney attacking little children and women.

Dio, can I answer?

ChocChip, Romney provided for taxpayer funded $50 abortions on demand as part of his RomneyCare, and he is on record as saying he believes if a girl under 18 gets pregnant and her parents want to prevent her getting an abortion, she should be able to go to a judge and have him override her parents' decision. As I have gotten older and wiser, I realize how intense an attack that is on women and children.

ABO says vote for cyanide to avoid re-election of arsenic. I say vote official on-the-ballot third party in the presidential to dilute whichever poison wins. Voting for Romney is as nuts as voting for Obama. Voting for Romney is as stupid as voting for an orange juice can.

12 posted on 05/29/2012 6:05:11 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: Kaslin

13 posted on 05/29/2012 6:12:44 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kaslin

1)He’s not Obama
2)He’s not Obama
3)He’s not Obama


14 posted on 05/29/2012 6:17:13 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy
People are so busy obsessing on what they want to be voting against, that they fail entirely to consider the price of ABO. Hillary Clinton isn't Obama, either; if she switched parties and ran as a Republican, you could vote for her, for EXACTLY the same reason you're willing to vote for Romney, and and get the same results. Once elected, she'd roll-over for conservatives about as readily as Romney would -- as in, she'd tell them to go pound sand, just like Romney would. If he won, he'd tell thee and me and every other conservative trying to hold his feet to the fire: "Listen, pal, the only reason Republicans even have the White House is because of me, so sit down and shut up." And you'd better damned well expect that that's what a lot of Congressional conservatives would do.

You don't want to choose that drink -- it's got arsenic! Better choose this one because it doesn't have arsenic. It's got cyanide. That's much better.

15 posted on 05/29/2012 6:34:53 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: Kaslin
The rending of garments and gnashing of teeth from FR continues.

Personally, I see some positives to never, ever saying or thinking that Mitt is just what we want and 100% great. I hope to see him win and to have his feet kept to the fire from day ONE. We need to drag him, kicking and screaming if necessary, to the right starting November 3.

As a side note, it will be HILARIOUS to hear the Dems paint him as an uber-conservative.

16 posted on 05/29/2012 6:38:36 PM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Kaslin

DUMP WILLARD FOR WALKER 2012 !


17 posted on 05/29/2012 6:52:40 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: ChocChipCookie
Here on FR, Romney was accused of being behind the fall of Herman Cain and Rick Perry, among others. Perhaps that was true. If so, it means he’s willing to fight dirty, and who was the last Republican Presidential candidate who was willing to do that?

Romney fights dirtier against conservatives than he does against Obama. Hell, earlier this month he was praising Bill Clinton.

At the end of the day, Romney is still a liberal, and just like the last liberal Republican, he will lose to Obama.
18 posted on 05/29/2012 6:54:57 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Finny; GOPsterinMA; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; randita

I was listing his “strength(s)” not saying I was voting for him.

However I am and yes that’s why. I respect your argument (which of course I’ve heard before and I at one point felt the same way) but I want Obama gone. I want his “legacy” destroyed by being a one termer. I want his sycophants crying all over the internet. I want to laugh in their faces and drink their tears. Sure I’m petty but they need to be punished for annoying me for these past 4 years. And he needs to be off my damn TV screen. Last night I watched part of a Geography Bee for kids hosted by Alex Trebek. Guess who asked a question via video? That’s right, Obama! Trebek thanked him and flattered him by suggesting his (Trebek’s) job was in danger. He pops up on ESPN. I personally need to be rid of his presence, period.

If Romney is even worse I’ll take that risk, but despite his horrible record as Governor I reject the notion that he’s a committed socialist like Hillary Clinton (whom I like LESS than Obama, I was perplexed by freepers who cheerleaded for her in 2008 primaries, she’s just as leftist as he and more competent so she’d be even worse, she was our public enemy#1 while Obama was still a pissant State Senator). He’s a weather vane, all he cares about is being President to avenge his dead father and win his approval from beyond the grave. And he probably will be cause this election isn’t about him.


19 posted on 05/29/2012 7:01:16 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: jdsteel
Now, admittedly, I may have been reading things into your post wrongly, and if so, I apologize. But ... What are you talking, "Gee, he's not 100% great?" "Not just what we want"? Excuse me?? Try 100% WRONG on five MAJOR issues that threaten to destroy our most basic of individual freedoms, with a demonstrated track record to prove it. He has used his political office to ADVANCE five major liberal agendas that many of us have been voting Republican all these years to oppose!

You cavalierly write-off as "gnashing of teeth" our observation that Romney is essentially a ligher shade of Obama and that he would therefore be as destructive as Obama, if in a different way and on a different scale.

Let's see how "HILARIOUS" you think it is when a President Romney is embraced by "bi-partisan" Democrats nobly and generously reaching across the aisle for his "progressivism" and how "HILARIOUS" it is when he plays political hardball with conservative Republicans in Congress and neuters those who would stand in the way of his "legacy."

If you're going to vote for Romney, you should think about what you're voting FOR. Because THAT is all that will count in 2013, when Obama would be forgotten.

20 posted on 05/29/2012 7:08:30 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: Impy

I can’t speak for other Freepers, but I cheerled for Hillary in 2008 solely so that the nomination would go down to the Democrat Convention, which would make the 1968 Democrat Convention look like a church gathering. I wanted to see liberals being dragged by their hair through the blood-soaked streets of Denver (figuratively speaking, of course : ), and the Dems end up picking someone that would piss off half their base, since both black liberals and feminists believed that it was “their turn” and would have thought they were “robbed of the nomination.” Maybe due to Lehman the Dems would have won anyways, but who knows?


21 posted on 05/29/2012 7:09:21 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: af_vet_rr
Romney fights dirtier against conservatives than he does against Obama. Hell, earlier this month he was praising Bill Clinton. At the end of the day, Romney is still a liberal ....

Amen, Brother FReeper!

If it's Obama v Romney in the general, we'll have three options: vote for arsenic, vote for cyanide, or vote to dilute whichever poison wins.

I know which way I'll be voting.

22 posted on 05/29/2012 7:12:49 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: ChocChipCookie; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

Cain maybe (I put it on the Obama loving media not Romney), but no one other than Perry is responsible for Perry.

Perry would have easily beat Romney’s butt it if he wasn’t such a horrible campaigner and debater.


23 posted on 05/29/2012 7:16:58 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

La Raza Rick had no credibility as a Conservative.


24 posted on 05/29/2012 7:21:37 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Good point. That would have been sweet.

But I think a lot of people honestly thought she was to be preferred by an appreciable margin. I find that notion to be wacky.


25 posted on 05/29/2012 7:25:30 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy
Thank you, Impy, for being so straightforward and civil and respectful!

If you're wrong about Romney being like a weather vane ... that's a pretty big risk to take with the Republican party. Romney has always despised conservatives, and if his supporters on FR are any indication of the truism that you can tell a lot about a candidate by the behavior of his supporters, he thinks of conservatives as willful children who need to be talked down until they sit and behave. If it means lying, shouting, bullying, and deceiving to accomplish it, so be it. That's his MO. And remember that he has a very large organization of supporters with lots of money behind him. I expect we see them here on FR, in fact.

On a personal note of character, Romney is a person who individually made the moral choice to promote, congratulate, support, an organization that had as its "outreach" the normalization of homosexuality to kids as young as 12 years old. With your hand, the one you're posting to FR with, would YOU sign such a Governor's proclamation to celebrate that? Romney did. That's depraved and that's what Romney is. He's the kind of guy who wants to let any girl who wants it have an abortion. That is a bad and depraved individual.

Big red flag. That's not "weathervane" behavior.

26 posted on 05/29/2012 7:26:10 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
*happy vision sigh*

You're such an optimist! LOL! ;^)

27 posted on 05/29/2012 7:30:19 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: Kaslin

On watch here for:

1. Phony-Care becoming Fascist-Care.

2. 401-Ks, into Federal pensions invested in the propped fake government pension market.

3. VAT.


28 posted on 05/29/2012 7:32:21 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Vigilanteman

I could almost put that on my bumper.


29 posted on 05/29/2012 7:34:25 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

I agree. I called him Mick Pomney.

But unfortunately perception is reality (democrats still say Bush was a conservative and fools believe it) and he was FR’s favorite candidate for some reason. He was better liked here even than Gingrich.

I think both are closer to Mitt than my idea of a conservative leader but both presented themselves as and were perceived as being appreciably to the right of Romney.


30 posted on 05/29/2012 7:37:30 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy; Finny; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; randita
Texas made it official: Mittens has the delegates. Now it's officially Mittens vs. Obama. People can vote for 'x' or against 'x', not vote at all, have an all-day dentist appointment that day...whatever.

Just understand that either Mittens or Obama is going to be the next POTUS - not Mickey Mouse, Iron Man, Virgil Goode, Sarah Palin, Vince Lombardi, Rudoph the Red-Nosed Reindeer or Mork from Ork.

31 posted on 05/29/2012 7:49:53 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: Finny

I’m holding my nose but I’m not asking others to.

I like your poison analogy. I’ve used a similar one myself (venereal diseases). I see Obama as AIDS, Romney as genital herpes. Out of the fire and back in the frying pan. I don’t expect him to a good job, I won’t be fooled as I was with Bush. If he does real bad the GOP will suffer in the next election, that’s how it goes.


32 posted on 05/29/2012 7:53:26 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: jdsteel
We need to drag him, kicking and screaming if necessary, to the right starting November 3.

How do you propose to accomplish that?

Once elected he has no reason to give a second thought about conservatives. Romney is t h e establishment's response to the tea party movement and will answer only to the establishment.

33 posted on 05/29/2012 7:58:37 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: Impy
Are you saying Romney "was FR’s favorite candidate for some reason. He was better liked here even than Gingrich." ????

You lost me. On what planet was that?

34 posted on 05/29/2012 7:59:37 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: Kaslin
The first chance Americans got to vote on Obama, Virginians gave us a GOP sweep in Nov 2009. Scott Brown followed soon after in early 2010. The elections have shown a 20%+ swing against Obama.

Why would an actual vote on Obama be any less? Romney is going to crush Obama 59% to 39%. You heard it hear first.

Now, I hope that Romney spends a good portion of his campaign supporting GOP Senate, Congress and State candidates. He needs to understand that to get anything accomplished in DC, he needs huge majorities in the Senate and the House.

Romney has the opportunity to be Reagan the Second, even greater. It's within his grasp.

35 posted on 05/29/2012 8:04:12 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Finny

No no. I said Perry was the favorite. I was not a fan of Perry and called him Mick Pomney.

That’s probably not clear if you didn’t see the post I was replying to.


36 posted on 05/29/2012 8:07:21 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I don’t know ... you can never count out Vince Lombardi.

All the liberals, and a goodly portion of the moderates, will be voting for Obama. Democrats are counting on enough conservatives to stay home or vote third party to give Obama a narrow victory, which will allow him to issue more executive orders, name even more members of the federal judiciary, and replace two or three Supreme Court Justices. I don’t like or particularly trust Mitt Romney, but I want Obama swept out of the White House, and Romney’s the only guy with a working broom.


37 posted on 05/29/2012 8:13:06 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Vince would choke on his own vomit and die if he was what America has become...

You put it perfectly - “Romney’s the only guy with a working broom.”

I don't like the guy (being one of the very few FReepers that has actually lived under his governorship), but he's survivable; Obama’s not.

38 posted on 05/29/2012 8:20:27 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: GOPsterinMA

“was” should be “saw”


39 posted on 05/29/2012 8:21:56 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: Diogenesis
Guess what...nobody cares about your infantile gibbering stupidities...
40 posted on 05/29/2012 8:40:57 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Kaslin

Romney is no Reagan. Romney was an independent and a progressive during Reagan/Bush. So it will be harder to send him across the finish line. It is like fighting gasoline with a match.


41 posted on 05/29/2012 9:16:04 PM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: Impy

I dislike all the idiots who voted for Romney in the primaries.... what kind of a moron would risk America’s future by doing that?


42 posted on 05/29/2012 9:18:59 PM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: Mozilla

Don’t blame me, I voted for Santorum.


43 posted on 05/29/2012 9:33:59 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Kaslin

Obama will lose, leaving Romney to take the White House.


44 posted on 05/29/2012 9:39:44 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: Mozilla

As to why anyone voted for Romney in the primary, the Republican electorate at large is not as well informed or politically savvy as they should be.


45 posted on 05/29/2012 9:44:57 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Mozilla
Romney and Reagan both have six letters in their names. Having said that: I'm thinking all we can hope for is that the bench-sitters in the middle who hated Bush believe we don't like Mitt (and that would be a reasonable assumption) AND Mittens has his conservative epiphany or `Come to Jesus' moment before the end of the year. He is going to want another term. Dig up Stassen and he could beat the Kenyan. People are sick of him. Of course viability, that's what a lot of the DUmmies were hoping for in Zero and he never gelled .... he's a one-termer and will soon be competing with Carter and Clinton for `Worst Ex-President' title, it's definitely bedtime, I can't believe I'm reconciling myself to Gromit.
46 posted on 05/29/2012 9:47:35 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: ChocChipCookie

Err, wrong. Mittens fights dirty against conservatives. He’ll kiss Obama’s a** in the general.


47 posted on 05/30/2012 2:57:22 AM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: jdsteel

“The rending of garments and gnashing of teeth from FR continues.
Personally, I see some positives to never, ever saying or thinking that Mitt is just what we want and 100% great. I hope to see him win and to have his feet kept to the fire from day ONE. We need to drag him, kicking and screaming if necessary, to the right starting November 3.

As a side note, it will be HILARIOUS to hear the Dems paint him as an uber-conservative.”


You had no power in selecting him in the first place. What makes you think you can hold his feet to the fire? This is self-delusion.


48 posted on 05/30/2012 3:00:28 AM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: GOPsterinMA

Doesn’t have to be...

The convention is there for a reason... Lets convince enough of the delegates to abstain from voting in the first round.

I blame the GOP for this mess, and Ill NOT support their dumb ass’s should they actually nominate a socialist out of the convention.


49 posted on 05/30/2012 5:14:24 AM PDT by myself6
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To: hinckley buzzard

I care...

So i guess that makes what you posted an infantile gibbering stupidity..

F’ing dumb ass


50 posted on 05/30/2012 5:16:19 AM PDT by myself6
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