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Are airlines unfair to families?
MSN Money ^ | 5/29/2012 | Karen Datko

Posted on 05/29/2012 8:18:29 PM PDT by caldera599

The airlines are making it much more difficult for families with children to travel these days. In recent developments: United Airlines joined US Airways and American Airlines in no longer offering preboarding for families with kids flying in coach. Families are having more difficulty getting adjoining seats. That's because airlines are reserving more seats for frequent fliers and those willing to pay, usually $50 round trip, for the most desirable seats in coach -- window and aisle, and closest to the front of the plane.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: airlines; dumb; families; policies
Stupid policies, but I can already tell what the liberal solution to this will be; return to regulation! Yes! Repeal the Airline Deregulation Act and place the airlines under government control! Make fares astronomically high again, so we can eat filet mingnon in coach again! Why should all those stinky poor people be able to afford to fly? They can take the bus like the dirty people they are!
1 posted on 05/29/2012 8:18:41 PM PDT by caldera599
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2 posted on 05/29/2012 8:23:15 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: caldera599

After having a job for over 15 years that had me make almost 400 business trips, I am happy to report my new part time position requires NO travel.

Eff you, American/US Air/Delta/et. al. Airlines!


3 posted on 05/29/2012 8:29:11 PM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: caldera599
My first flight was on a 727. I was 18. I smoked like a chimney, and drank several beers. I finally fell asleep before a nice sergeant disloged me from my rest.

I'd fly again if they had ashtrays back in the back where most people live through the crashes.

/johnny

4 posted on 05/29/2012 8:33:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: caldera599

“but I can already tell what the liberal solution to this will be; return to regulation!”

Uncle Chuckie is on it! - “Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., is looking to help families avoid having to add more cash to a typical airline flight. The Associated Press reports Schumer is asking Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood to issue rules that would prevent airlines from charging premium seat fees so parents can sit next to their children.”

http://news.yahoo.com/senator-wants-airlines-families-break-150400816.html;_ylt=A2KLOzIjlcVPkTMAs_nQtDMD


5 posted on 05/29/2012 8:37:22 PM PDT by rwa265 ("This is My Beloved Son, Listen to Him.")
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
So I take it you are happy with your new status quo post bellum.

It is a good thing. ;) Congrats.

/johnny

6 posted on 05/29/2012 8:38:06 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: caldera599

By the time airlines add all their fees to the ticket price, it is astronomical. Some regulation is actually good.

Last time my friend flew, the add on fees exceeded the ticket price. Some deal!


7 posted on 05/29/2012 8:40:49 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: caldera599

There is a reason we are driving 900 miles for vacation rather than flying. Cost was only a part.


8 posted on 05/29/2012 8:43:56 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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United Airlines joined US Airways and American Airlines in no longer offering preboarding for families with kids flying in coach.

Poor little tykes... they're losing valuable seat-kicking time.

9 posted on 05/29/2012 8:44:41 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar

I racked up so many miles on Delta that I can fly for free for the rest of my life.


10 posted on 05/29/2012 8:46:52 PM PDT by Kirkwood (It's not a lie. It's a composite.)
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To: caldera599

There was a time as a single man when I used to love business travel. I’d stay a sat night to cut costs for the company and give me a new place to visit. I used to book flights that I thought were likely to need bump volunteers and then volunteer. I had a lot of free tickets which i used for personal travel.

Now I cannot stand to be in an airport. I engage in no commerce in airports. I drink water out of the sink rather than pay for bottled water in a place where I am treated like a criminal. I avoid as much air travel as my wife will let me:)


11 posted on 05/29/2012 8:52:51 PM PDT by posterchild
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To: caldera599

To the headline: yes and yes again.


12 posted on 05/29/2012 8:53:21 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Kirkwood

heh..putting your kid in a middle seat with two strangers makes it easier on the parents. Then you can sit back and have a couple drinks while the kids are entertained by someone else. If the airlines are stupid enough to let that happen..along with people taken their whole life as carry on to avoid bag check prices..well let them live with it for a while. Back when our kids were small, but able to carry their own bags we let them sit away from us all the time. Quieter for us..


13 posted on 05/29/2012 8:54:57 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: caldera599
"Make fares astronomically high again"

Yes! And for the reasons you mention.


14 posted on 05/29/2012 8:55:53 PM PDT by I see my hands (If you say what you think then no one will like you.)
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To: redgolum

Same here. 1100 miles. To fly was just insane price wise, plus the headaches of getting a type 1 diabetic on the plane and the fact that the TSA would likely shoot me dead when they try to feel up our 8 year old girl because there is no way we are stepping in to the xray machine.

So it’s much safer (and cheaper) for us to just spend the money on gas and enjoy the sights along the way.


15 posted on 05/29/2012 9:03:52 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: caldera599

If you recheck in at the airport right before your flight, you can usually pick the ‘good’ seats that open up for free. It helps if you sign up for a frequent flyer account first, but you don’t have to be a frequent flyer or have a ton of miles. When I travel with my children, I use this trick so we can all sit together.


16 posted on 05/29/2012 9:13:45 PM PDT by sportutegrl (Don't tell anyone or it won't work anymore.)
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I haven’t flown in 10 years (since 2002) and have no plans to do so ever again. If I can’t drive, I don’t go. We drove to Orlando from Memphis several times now.

The airports are like going to prison.


17 posted on 05/29/2012 9:33:17 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: caldera599
In days long gone flying was an enjoyable part of the trip. Now having to fly is a reason not to make a trip. A major pain in the a** on so many levels it is unbelievable. I have gone from preferring to drive rather than fly any thing less than 300 mi to any thing less than 1300 miles.
18 posted on 05/29/2012 9:36:50 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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By the time airlines add all their fees to the ticket price, it is astronomical. Some regulation is actually good. Last time my friend flew, the add on fees exceeded the ticket price. Some deal!

Nobody should pretend to be surprised about the way tickets are being priced. There's a simple reason for it: Internet flight booking. It's all about the way people buy tickets. You go to Travelocity, or CheapTickets, or Orbitz, Expedia, Kayak... Whatever... People shopping there are looking for the lowest fare-- and nothing else. So... The airlines are going to shave their fares down as low as possible so they will sort to the top of those lists. An easy way to do that is to push as much as possible off into other "fees" and whatnot.

It's disingenuous to pretend to be offended by a lack of amenities, when that's not what you were shopping for. You wanted the lowest fare, and you got it. Quityerbitchin'. If you wanted certain other amenities, then you shoulda shopped for them. You could have. You chose not to.

For the last few years, when I have traveled, I have chosen to fly first class. Yes... It costs more. But I have a seat that fits me with room to spare. My bags check free. My drinks (no small amount, there) are free. The food is better. My checked bags come out first at baggage claim. All in all... For me I'm interested in more than just price.

19 posted on 05/29/2012 9:41:44 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ezekiel
Poor little tykes... they're losing valuable seat-kicking time.

...to add insult to injury, every time I asked the adults to please prevent their children from kicking my seat, they reacted as if they needed to call Chucky Schumer toot sweet for child abuse!

20 posted on 05/29/2012 9:45:23 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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Actually I don’t fly and haven’t since 2002. Those idiotic fees were not started till AFTER I quit flying. But they do make sure I probably won’t darken an airport ever again.

I won’t say never, as something could come up but like I said, its been 10 years and counting.


21 posted on 05/29/2012 9:50:08 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: Ramius

Actually I don’t fly and haven’t since 2002. Those idiotic fees were not started till AFTER I quit flying. But they do make sure I probably won’t darken an airport ever again.

I won’t say never, as something could come up but like I said, its been 10 years and counting.


22 posted on 05/29/2012 9:51:15 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: Ramius
If you wanted certain other amenities, then you shoulda shopped for them. You could have. You chose not to.

Taking luggage on a plane is a necessity for most people and NOT an amenities. Just cause the airlines call them that don't make it so. If they charged extra for oxygen, would you call that an amenities also?

23 posted on 05/29/2012 9:53:56 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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If they charged extra for oxygen, would you call that an amenities also?

Depends.

How important is breathing to you?

Personally, I filter all the air I breath through a cigarette. ;)

/johnny

24 posted on 05/29/2012 10:19:22 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: publius911

Too many parents use that extra time not to get their bags stowed and their children settled, but to let loose their precious monkeys to climb and bounce on the seats, play in the aisles, and/or hover over the seat backs, sliming the passengers behind them. Of course the real problem isn’t antsy kids, but the enabling parents who put it upon strangers to enforce civility.


25 posted on 05/29/2012 10:28:50 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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It is very fun to hold a light one by the small of the back and face stuffed to the ceiling with one arm.

And they generally are more polite afterwards, and want to know about the rank and ribbons.

NCOs were invented because parents fail.

/johnny

26 posted on 05/29/2012 10:44:43 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: publius911

And just think, now the parents won’t be with them. You could well end up being a de facto baby sitter.


27 posted on 05/30/2012 3:30:18 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: caldera599

I’m thinking there are probably a lot of baby mammas and daddys that LOVE this policy.


28 posted on 05/30/2012 5:30:30 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: caldera599

Last airline I flew on was Delta, and they still do allow families with children to preboard.

Allowing the govt to put it’s slimy, disease-ridden claws in the industry again isn’t the answer. If you don’t like an airline’s policies, don’t fly with them. It’s that simple.


29 posted on 05/30/2012 1:41:53 PM PDT by caldera599
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To: packrat35

During the age of regulation flying was for the elite, prices were pinned sky high. People complain about the fees but it’s their own fault, the fact is they don’t want to buy a ticket listed at price X, but they’re willing to buy a ticket listed at half that and still PAY X after the fees. If people wouldn’t demand low list prices there wouldn’t be the fees. It’s not like airlines are making a profit, X is what they actually need to charge, but the people demand they be sneaky about it, so they are.


30 posted on 05/30/2012 1:50:30 PM PDT by discostu (Listen, do you smell something?)
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