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Wisconsin unions see ranks drop ahead of recall vote
Wall Street Journal via Fox News ^

Posted on 05/31/2012 5:36:47 AM PDT by sgtyork

Public-employee unions in Wisconsin have experienced a dramatic drop in membership -- by more than half for the second-biggest union -- since a law championed by Republican Gov. Scott Walker sharply curtailed their ability to bargain over wages and working conditions. Now with Mr. Walker facing a recall vote Tuesday, voters will decide whether his policies in the centrist state should continue -- or whether they have gone too far. The election could mark a pivot point for organized labor. Mr. Walker's ouster would derail the political career of a rising Republican star and send a warning to other elected officials who are battling unions. But a victory for the governor, who has been leading his Democratic opponent in recent polls, would amount to an endorsement of an effort to curtail public-sector unions, which have been a pillar of strength for organized labor while private-sector membership has dwindled. That could mean the sharp losses that some Wisconsin public-worker unions have experienced is a harbinger of similar unions' future nationwide, union leaders fear. Failure to oust Mr. Walker and overturn the Wisconsin law "spells doom," said Bryan Kennedy, the American Federation of Teachers' Wisconsin president. Wisconsin membership in the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees-the state's second-largest public-sector union after the National Education Association, which represents teachers-fell to 28,745 in February from 62,818 in March 2011, according to a person who has viewed Afscme's figures. A spokesman for Afscme declined to comment.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: milwaukee; publicunions; recall; scottwalker; tombarrett; wisconsin
I'm surprised this has happened so soon. This appears to align with the MU Law School poll where Democrats report of likelihood to vote is dropping.
1 posted on 05/31/2012 5:36:58 AM PDT by sgtyork
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To: Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; bushwon; ...

Wis ping list - filling in for AfraidfortheRepublic


2 posted on 05/31/2012 5:40:25 AM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: sgtyork

FTA — “Public-employee unions in Wisconsin have experienced a dramatic drop in membership — by more than half for the second-biggest union . . .” KABOOM!!! This made my day. Drive the union thugs into the sea!!!!!


3 posted on 05/31/2012 5:51:52 AM PDT by jhroberts
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To: sgtyork
Wisconsin unions see ranks drop ahead of recall vote


4 posted on 05/31/2012 5:53:00 AM PDT by tomkat (:^)
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To: sgtyork

Oh, pull out the tissue.


5 posted on 05/31/2012 5:55:16 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: sgtyork

What is the membership declining? Were their jobs eliminated, or did they opt out of the union?


6 posted on 05/31/2012 5:58:01 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: sgtyork

7 posted on 05/31/2012 5:58:40 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: sgtyork

Is Wisconsin a “right to work” state?


8 posted on 05/31/2012 6:02:35 AM PDT by Huskrrrr ( the will)
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To: tomkat

even though they have left the union, will they not still vote democRAT in the election?


9 posted on 05/31/2012 6:04:50 AM PDT by stickywillie (a corrupt parallel universe exists beside our wonderful Constitution)
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To: stickywillie
even though they have left the union, will they not still vote democRAT in the election?

Good question, but one thing's for certain... it spells a shrinking pool of $$$ for the union bosses.

10 posted on 05/31/2012 6:07:35 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: jaydubya2

I suspect most just opted out of union. Dues are approx. $100 per month depending on union, location, contract,etc. Everyone is trying to save $ these days...


11 posted on 05/31/2012 6:08:46 AM PDT by donozark (One in four Confederate Soldiers who fell at Gettysburg came from North Carolina.)
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To: Huskrrrr

No, Wisc. is not a RTW State. Maybe the Gov. will push to become one after next week’s election!


12 posted on 05/31/2012 6:10:18 AM PDT by donozark (One in four Confederate Soldiers who fell at Gettysburg came from North Carolina.)
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To: ScottinVA

I work with and know several union members who DO NOT pay their union dues, still the union will protect them when the chips are down. Some have told me, I have better things to do with my money”. Heart warming isn’t it?


13 posted on 05/31/2012 6:13:22 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: sgtyork; Diana in Wisconsin; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; ...
RE :”Public-employee unions in Wisconsin have experienced a dramatic drop in membership — by more than half for the second-biggest union — since a law championed by Republican Gov. Scott Walker sharply curtailed their ability to bargain over wages and working conditions

Didn't the law also stop the state from forcing employers to take union dues out of the employees paychecks as with tax withholding?

Also see :
Schultz/MSNBC Launch 'Get Out The Vote' Effort Against Scott Walker

14 posted on 05/31/2012 6:14:01 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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Thanks sickoflibs. Have a great day, all.


15 posted on 05/31/2012 6:17:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: sgtyork
For unions, membership == revenue == political power.

If the Repubs can hold out and maintain control til the end of the year, the Dem party in WI will be broken beyond easy recovery. The key recall race is Walker -- Half the state Senate comes up for re-election in November anyway.

16 posted on 05/31/2012 6:45:01 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: sgtyork

Afscme? Do capital letters cost more?


17 posted on 05/31/2012 6:47:48 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: jaydubya2

I’m pretty sure it is due to a change in union dues collections. The state no longer collects for the unions; hence union members are getting their dues back in their paychecks. I kind of doubt they are going to give that money up voluntarily now, hence the drop in membership.


18 posted on 05/31/2012 6:49:18 AM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: sgtyork

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!


19 posted on 05/31/2012 7:07:58 AM PDT by Londo Molari
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To: Michael Barnes

I opted out. I’d rather give the dues to a charity of my choosing, where they’ll actually do some good.


20 posted on 05/31/2012 7:12:49 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: sgtyork

Thanks for filling in!


21 posted on 05/31/2012 7:14:36 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: ScottinVA

As the local radio guy just said...the best part is all the tissue they’ll be using over the next few weeks trying to deal with this will fund the one company they despise the most:

KOCH BROTHERS (Georgia Pacific) LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!


22 posted on 05/31/2012 7:18:09 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: donozark

Walker has said he will not push for RTW and the State Senate is too squishy to try it.

As much as I and many others in this State want it, it may well be the “bridge too far”. Maybe if he strengthens his position with a second term in 2014 and the recall rules are changed, but until then I think he’ll tread slowly.


23 posted on 05/31/2012 7:21:23 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: MNlurker
KOCH BROTHERS (Georgia Pacific) LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HA!!

24 posted on 05/31/2012 7:24:00 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: sickoflibs

BUMP


25 posted on 05/31/2012 7:27:01 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: MNlurker
Wouldn't it rock their world though? First Mitch Daniels-Indiana becomes a RTW State, then Wisconsin pushes to become one. May break the bank so to speak.

Just hope Gov. Walker and other 4 can hold on Tuesday. That is a big victory in itself. Last poll I read seems to indicate they all will win...

26 posted on 05/31/2012 7:29:06 AM PDT by donozark (One in four Confederate Soldiers who fell at Gettysburg came from North Carolina.)
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To: sgtyork
Waterloo, you union thugs.


27 posted on 05/31/2012 7:34:09 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: sgtyork

THAT’S gonna leave a mark! Maybe we’ve finally killed the beast? Hope so!!


28 posted on 05/31/2012 8:06:04 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: knittnmom

I always thought union dues were intended for use in making the workers environment better in some way. Dues should never be used for political purposes. I would never belong to a union. JMHO.


29 posted on 05/31/2012 8:20:07 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: FES0844

In theory, we can request the return any portion of the dues spent on political activities. In reality, when I asked for them, I was told my chapter didn’t spend any money on political activities. Technically, that was correct. WPEC is a subset of AFT. WPEC doesn’t, but AFT certainly does! Had I stayed in the union, I was planning to save all the mailers from the union telling me who they wanted me to vote for, and would have filed another claim. Oddly enough, even though I opted out, I’m STILL getting those mailers!!


30 posted on 05/31/2012 8:23:59 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: MNlurker

I just do no understand opposition against right to work laws by anyone other than union bosses and the politicians they own. Why woould Joe or Jane worker support forced unionzation? It is so anti-freedom.


31 posted on 05/31/2012 9:23:39 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: sgtyork

If this is the case, then WI must be a “right to work” State; huh?


32 posted on 05/31/2012 9:34:35 AM PDT by pistolpackinpapa
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To: jaydubya2

“What (Why) is the membership declining? Were their jobs eliminated, or did they opt out of the union?”

I believe that formerly (pre Walker) union mbrshp was mandatory, annual dues being paid out of state-appropriated funds, apart from funds appropriated to pay salaries and benefits, by state employees using state offices and facilities. Teachers and state employees now pay union dues personally, at their personal discretion.
(I’m a former Univ. of Wis. faculty mbr, non-union position, not currently resident of Wis.; perhaps a current Wis. resident will correct the foregoing as needed).

9


33 posted on 05/31/2012 9:42:33 AM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: sgtyork

Why should they put down their bongs and go vote when they know that the residents of the cemeteries will each be voting? Three times.


34 posted on 05/31/2012 9:48:32 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: jaydubya2

With the new law they can op out so they did. The last poll I saw of public employees, they support Walker 52%


35 posted on 05/31/2012 9:27:37 PM PDT by WI Robert
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To: jaydubya2
No public jobs have been cut in Wisconsin due to the new law, the only community's that had to cut jobs were the ones that the unions pushed to extend the old contracts before the new law went into effect, ask Tom Barrett, MPS (Milwaukee Public schools) had to make big cuts, including his wife. So like many places it was the unions that cost jobs.
36 posted on 05/31/2012 10:04:38 PM PDT by WI Robert
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To: Progov

“Some have told me, I have better things to do with my money”. Heart warming isn’t it?”

They do and it is.


37 posted on 05/31/2012 10:47:52 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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