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German teen solves 300-year-old mathematical riddle posed by Sir Isaac Newton
Fox News/Newscore ^ | 5/31/2012

Posted on 05/31/2012 2:07:01 PM PDT by South40

DRESDEN, Germany – A German 16-year-old has become the first person to solve a mathematical problem posed by Sir Isaac Newton more than 300 years ago.

Shouryya Ray worked out how to calculate exactly the path of a projectile under gravity and subject to air resistance, The (London) Sunday Times reported.

The Indian-born teen said he solved the problem that had stumped mathematicians for centuries while working on a school project.

Ray won a research award for his efforts and has been labeled a genius by the German media, but he put it down to "curiosity and schoolboy naivety."

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1 posted on 05/31/2012 2:07:06 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

Heinlein said it best:

“Always listen to experts. They will tell you what cannot be done and why.

“Then do it.”


2 posted on 05/31/2012 2:09:42 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: South40

Would love to see his calc sheets.


3 posted on 05/31/2012 2:10:13 PM PDT by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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To: South40

Amazing. One would think just for practical reasons, for example accurate artillery aiming, there would have been a solution although I guess the partial solutions were good enough.


4 posted on 05/31/2012 2:11:07 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Exactly. This sounds like a job for a super computer not a 16-year-old kid.


5 posted on 05/31/2012 2:13:39 PM PDT by South40
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To: freedumb2003
Adios insane California!

I am jealous. Extremely jealous.

6 posted on 05/31/2012 2:17:17 PM PDT by South40
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To: C19fan

Captain Stillman:

All right, soldier, let’s see how you fire that mortar.

Soldier with Mortar: What coordinates, sir?

Captain Stillman: [annoyed] Coordinates?

Soldier with Mortar:

Yes, sir, they determine where the mortar’s...

Captain Stillman:

Soldier, the army has spent a lot of money teaching you to fire that thing. Now set it and fire it.

Soldier with Mortar:

Sir, we don’t know where the shell’s gonna...

Captain Stillman:

Soldier. The only way to learn anything is to do it. Now fire the weapon!


7 posted on 05/31/2012 2:17:33 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: South40
Here it is. Now go out there and calculate some trajectories.
8 posted on 05/31/2012 2:21:00 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

lol!


9 posted on 05/31/2012 2:24:31 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

As a white-Indian he won’t be getting any affirmative action grants from Harvard.

Congratulations to a great kid. Nice self-effacing lad too.
“”When it was explained to us that the problems had no solutions, I thought to myself, ‘well, there’s no harm in trying,’” he said.”

“Despite not speaking a word of German when he arrived, Ray will this week sit Germany’s high school leaving exams, two years ahead of his peers.”

I came to America when I was 6 speaking only German. I blame my stepdad for not teaching me calculus when I was 6 like Shouryya Ray’s dad did. lol.


10 posted on 05/31/2012 2:26:19 PM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: A'elian' nation

When I was six my mother taught me not to put a BB gun in my mouth. ;)


11 posted on 05/31/2012 2:31:47 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: South40

I know about a whole bunch of Germans, VC and Woggies who, in the last few miliseconds of their lives, thought we had that problem prety well solved....


12 posted on 05/31/2012 2:50:59 PM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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To: DManA
Need definitions for the constants ...

Probably doesn't apply to both cannon ball and rifled projectile firings.

The latitude and direcction fired is also important, thanks to the Earth spinning around on its axis.

PS: My Naval specialty was gun Fire Control.

13 posted on 05/31/2012 2:50:59 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: OldNavyVet
My Naval specialty was gun Fire Control.

So what were you guys just faking it before this kid figured it your? ggggg

14 posted on 05/31/2012 2:57:40 PM PDT by DManA
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To: OldNavyVet
Sometimes close is good enough.

That being said, good job kid.


15 posted on 05/31/2012 3:01:19 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: South40
This sounds like a job for a super computer not a 16-year-old kid.

Computers calculate. They can't think.

16 posted on 05/31/2012 3:01:33 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: South40
Notice that
1. He is Indian
2. He was NOT edu-ma-cated in the Amurikan goober-mint system.
17 posted on 05/31/2012 3:08:51 PM PDT by jrg
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To: South40

Surprise! The newspaper got it wrong. The correct word is “naivete’” (The correct punctuation on the second “e” should be what is known as a “circumflex”, but I could not find out how to post that, it’s French).


18 posted on 05/31/2012 3:19:59 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: DManA
Is he putting in the “Amish” factor?”
19 posted on 05/31/2012 3:26:56 PM PDT by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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To: C19fan

Over / under...split the difference


20 posted on 05/31/2012 3:36:08 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: C19fan

Over / under...split the difference


21 posted on 05/31/2012 3:37:42 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: HIDEK6

After many, many years, I finally looked up the definition of “point blank range”.


22 posted on 05/31/2012 3:37:57 PM PDT by Ed Condon (Give 'em a heading, an altitude, and a reason.)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Man you’re lucky..........


23 posted on 05/31/2012 3:39:38 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: elkfersupper

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(Or you can just buy a Canadian computer and toggle the keyboard between English & French)


24 posted on 05/31/2012 3:56:21 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: South40
The Indian-born teen said he solved the problem that had stumped mathematicians for centuries while working on a school project. Ray won a research award for his efforts and has been labeled a genius by the German media, but he put it down to "curiosity and schoolboy naivety."

Wow....if this kid was in an American school...the jocks would beat him up for being a NERD....and the school would say it was HIS fault!!

25 posted on 05/31/2012 3:56:21 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: Squawk 8888
Thank you for that.

Amazing what you encounter on Free Republic.

In retrospect, I should have not responded until I was positive of the punctuation.

Thanks again!

26 posted on 05/31/2012 4:16:33 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: DManA

Elegant. Looks like plug in the values and solve.


27 posted on 05/31/2012 4:17:01 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: OldNavyVet

I dont see his computational allowances for the dimples on golf balls or the fuzz on tennis balls??


28 posted on 05/31/2012 4:24:35 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: South40

And it turns out to have been junk journalism.

https://francisthemulenews.wordpress.com/2012/05/29/el-problema-de-newton-y-la-solucion-que-ha-obtenido-shouryya-ray-16-anos/

(link is in Spanish, try opening with Chrome and use auto-translate)


29 posted on 05/31/2012 4:35:12 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: elkfersupper
The correct punctuation on the second “e” should be what is known as a “circumflex”, but I could not find out how to post that, it’s French

Useless French degree to the rescue!

naiveté

The second "e" has an accent aigu or acute accent. You can type it by turning on "Num Luck," holding down the "Alt" key and typing "0233" on the numeric keypad. My otherwise useless French degree knowledge is always available here at FR should you have any more French typographical questions.

Thank you very much.

30 posted on 05/31/2012 4:38:42 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: South40

31 posted on 05/31/2012 4:44:18 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: BfloGuy

Of course, “Num Luck” should be “Num Lock” (in case you’re still looking.) But, hey, what would you expect from a Liberal Arts major?


32 posted on 05/31/2012 4:56:20 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: OldNavyVet

I would also like to have some notation info’ It looks like the one constant is alpha and two other variables must have same dimensions. Of especial interest is the use of an arcsign value. Not being a math historian I wonder when arc trig values were developed.


33 posted on 05/31/2012 5:00:05 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: BfloGuy
Why, thank you!

While I do not have a degree in French, I disovered that I could skate all the way through high school and college by substituting 2 credits of a foreign language for every 1 credit of math.

Did I choose a useful language? No, I chose French.

Skated all the way with nothing beyond Algebra I.

I do have both accounting and finance secondary degrees, neither of which employ much "math".

34 posted on 05/31/2012 5:09:30 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Squawk 8888
(Or you can just buy a Canadian computer and toggle the keyboard between English & French)

One of the most frustrating parts of my year in Turkey as a visiting professor was that Turkish computer keyboards are almost like American ones, but not quite. I'd be typing along and suddenly a strange character would appear on the screen because I'd forgotten that Turkish has some characters English doesn't.

35 posted on 05/31/2012 5:16:38 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: noinfringers2
I wonder when arc trig values were developed.

From "The Handbook of Mathematical Functions" pages 79 and 1045, the term "arc" indicates an "inverse circular function," extending to arcsin, arccos, arctan, arccot, arcsec, and arccsc.

Place an "h" at the end of each, and we have the inverse hyperbolic functions: (arcsinh, for instance).

Also ... "The inverse circular functions are also written"... arcsin z = sin-1 z

... and etc.

The kid is, apparently, highly intelligent.

36 posted on 05/31/2012 5:36:30 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: DManA

The WW-II and Korean era ships used mechanical computers along with radar inputs and “stable element” gyroscopes to aim guns. Missiles hadn’t arrived yet.


37 posted on 05/31/2012 5:42:17 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: OldNavyVet

Ahh.. Good ole Trig. The reason I would never be successful as an engineer or physicist and why I chose to be an economist/econometrician.

No trig beyond the pure math classes I have to take and then I can memorize the angle formulas, unit circle, derivatives, integrals, etc. and call it a day. Never have to use it in my actual profession thank god.

In regards to the solution, I am assuming that g = gravity, alpha = constant, v = velocity but what is u? Remember, all of my math has been applied to economics and finance NOT physics. In fact, I haven’t taken physics since high school haha.


38 posted on 05/31/2012 5:47:37 PM PDT by Black_Shark
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To: OldNavyVet

It would make a pretty interesting book to put together all the ingenious solutions people have come up with over the years to solve this problem.


39 posted on 05/31/2012 6:07:47 PM PDT by DManA
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To: JoeFromSidney

LOL- a very common help call I get from my clients are about their keyboard “malfunctioning”; it’s easy to inadvertently change the language setting but it isn’t obvious after you’ve done so.


40 posted on 05/31/2012 7:28:41 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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