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Judge Revokes Zimmerman's Bond
WLS AM Chicago ^ | 1 June 2012 | Unknown

Posted on 06/01/2012 11:50:10 AM PDT by Lurker

ORLANDO, Fla. (WLS) - Prosecutors asked a judge Friday to revoke the bond of the neighborhood watch volunteer charged with killing 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

Prosecutors said in a motion that 28-year-old George Zimmerman and his family misled them about his finances when testifying during a bail hearing that allowed him to be released from jail on a $150,000 bond. Prosecutor Bernie De la Rionda asked for the revocation during a hearing to help determine if prosecutors and the defense can stop the public release of certain documents in the case.

During the bond hearing in April, Zimmerman's relatives testified they had limited funds. Zimmerman's attorney said several days later that he had discovered his client had raised more than $200,000 from a website. At the time of the hearing, about $135,000 had been raised, and that money wasn't disclosed at the bond hearing.

"This court was led to believe they didn't have a single penny," said Prosecutor Bernie De la Rionda. "It was misleading and I don't know what words to use other than it was a blatant lie."

Defense attorney Mark O'Mara said it was an innocent misunderstanding and that Zimmerman wasn't using that money for his expenses and wasn't sure what he could use the money for. He said Zimmerman used the houses of his parents and grandmother as collateral for the bond.

Prosecutors also said in the motion that Zimmerman didn't disclose he had a second passport. Zimmerman turned his passport over to the court at the bond hearing as a measure that would prevent him from fleeing the country.

Zimmerman is pleading not guilty to second-degree murder and claims self-defense. Zimmerman shot Martin last February during a confrontation at a gated community of townhouses in Sanford, Fla., where Zimmerman lived and where Martin was visiting his father's fiancee.

The delay in an arrest for 44 days prompted protests nationwide and led to Sanford's police chief stepping aside so emotions could cool down.

At Friday's hearing, De la Rionda and O'Mara also asked a judge to stop the public release of witness names and statements made by Zimmerman to police officers. Those documents normally are part of the public record under Florida law.

"What's occurring, unfortunately, are cases are being tried in the public sector as opposed to in the courtroom," De La Rionda told Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester. "We are in a new age with Twitter, Facebook, and all these things I've never heard of before in my career.

Everybody gets to find out intimate details about witnesses that never occurred before. Witnesses are going to be reluctant to get involved."

A consortium of more than a dozen media groups, including The Associated Press, asked the judge to ignore the request, saying such records are presumed to be publicly available under Florida law.

Rachel Fugate, an attorney for the Orlando Sentinel, cited the Casey Anthony trial as an example of a highly publicized case in which a jury was able to be seated despite intense media coverage. The Florida mother was acquitted last year of killing her 2-year-old daughter.

"Discovery in Florida has traditionally been open ... and Florida hasn't encountered problems seating juries and giving defendants fair trials," Fugate said.

O'Mara said Friday on a website that he doesn't expect the case to be ready for trial until next year.

O'Mara said he expects to call on 50 witnesses who need to be deposed before he decides whether to file a "stand your ground" motion which would ask for a hearing before a judge without a jury. At the hearing, Zimmerman would argue self-defense under the Florida law which gives wide latitude to use deadly force rather than retreat in a fight if people believe they are in danger of being killed or seriously injured.

The Associated Press Contributed To This Report


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; georgezimmerman; saintskittles; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman; zimmermanbondrevoked
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To: Red Steel
That’s a cheesy and lame excuse.

Lame excuse for what?

51 posted on 06/01/2012 12:49:53 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Truth29

While Zimmerman is out on bail his lawyer can delay the trial until after the election. The prosecutor doesn’t want that to happen.


52 posted on 06/01/2012 12:49:59 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Lazamataz

53 posted on 06/01/2012 12:53:49 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: House Atreides
Oh, it’s YOU again—here to defend the actions of oppressive governmental statists.

How am I defending the actions of oppressive governmental statists? The guy lied to the court in his bond hearing. The court revoked his bond. In all likelihood, when he surrenders himself, he will have another bond hearing, and will be released again, (a) on a higher bond (taking into consideration the extra money that Zimmerman failed to disclose last time) and (b) having turned over the second passport.

54 posted on 06/01/2012 12:55:18 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Jaded
He also turned the booty over to his lawyer as soon as O’Mara learned about it.

So let me get this straight. His lawyer has this money from his paypal account and has had it all along. Crump should be sanctioned by the judge for lying to him.

55 posted on 06/01/2012 1:05:16 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Lame excuse for what?

What's wrong Con Con you don't like it?

Is this guy really going to skip out and run to where ever when he is really innocent? Yes, he is innocent - it was clearly self-defense. You think he's guilty? I'll bet you jumped with glee that the race hustler Al Sharpton got Florida to jump through hoops to railroad Zimmerman in this fiasco. His paypal account for his defense and his bail is likely accumulating money as I type this. the donations for his defense are not static. That's why this is lame and cheesy to revoke his bail Con Con. The judge has other options.

56 posted on 06/01/2012 1:05:42 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
What's wrong Con Con you don't like it?

I don't like what? The guy lied to the court. Now, he's going to face the consequences of lying (probably in the form of a higher bond and an admonishment from the judge).

Is this guy really going to skip out and run to where ever when he is really innocent? Yes, he is innocent - it was clearly self-defense. You think he's guilty? I'll bet you jumped with glee that the race hustler Al Sharpton got Florida to jump through hoops to railroad Zimmerman in this fiasco. His paypal account for his defense and his bail is likely accumulating money as I type this. the donations for his defense are not static. That's why this is lame and cheesy to revoke his bail Con Con. The judge has other options.

I don't know if he's innocent or guilty. No one other than Zimmerman knows exactly what happened, and we don't know what Zimmerman told the cops/prosecutors.

In any event, his innocence/guilt is irrelevant to his bond hearing. Even an innocent person who has been arrested should not lie in court.

57 posted on 06/01/2012 1:12:01 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Lurker

Zimmerman doesn’t stand a chance.

This will be OJ in reverse.


58 posted on 06/01/2012 1:14:17 PM PDT by waus (FUBO UFCMF, Just in case I stuttered, FUBO)
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To: Lurker
"This court was led to believe they didn't have a single penny," said Prosecutor Bernie De la Rionda.

IOW, they didn't want a bond approved if there was any chance at all he might be able to meet it. Isn't there something in the Bill of Rights about that?

Ah, here it is. Amendment VIII: "Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."

The race hustlers want the punishment before the trial.

59 posted on 06/01/2012 1:22:41 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Lurker; All

If Obama had a son... he'd use drugs like "innocent" Trevon?

60 posted on 06/01/2012 1:23:18 PM PDT by Milagros (Y)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
I don't like what? The guy lied to the court.

Oh Reilly? Lied to the court? I don't know about that seeing how the state of Florida has acted scandalous in this matter. They don't have much credibility.

I don't know if he's innocent or guilty. No one other than Zimmerman knows exactly what happened, and we don't know what Zimmerman told the cops/prosecutors.

The cop initially and the local prosecutor's office cleared Zimmerman and they are correct. The evidence clearly supports Zimmerman as it is consistent with his side of events.

If you've been paying attention, this clearly a political show trial by the state of Florida.

In any event, his innocence/guilt is irrelevant to his bond hearing. Even an innocent person who has been arrested should not lie in court.

I did state that the court has "other options" like Zimmerman has 48 hours to turn in his 'other passport' or the bold would be revoked.

61 posted on 06/01/2012 1:24:55 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Lurker
First they tell him he can't use the money.
Then they close his web site.
Then they say he is lying because he didn't declare the money he was told he couldn't use.

Even Kafka can't follow that one.

62 posted on 06/01/2012 1:33:21 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day. Another small provocation. Another step closer.)
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To: wtc911
Oh, you mean it’s ok to lie to the court then?

Yes!

Since the courts, executive and legislative branches all lie to use and make up BS as they go, I see no reason not to do the same to them.

63 posted on 06/01/2012 1:41:05 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day. Another small provocation. Another step closer.)
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To: Melas

Interesting...The bond is based on the net worth of the indivdual??? Seems it ought to be based on the charges...


64 posted on 06/01/2012 1:42:18 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: wtc911
it’s ok to lie to the court then?

It's as OK as it is OK for courts to lie to citizens, as they do every day.

65 posted on 06/01/2012 1:43:56 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Conscience of a Conservative

Reviewing your past posts on this board it appears you side with black thugs and illegal immigrants in near every one of them. How much does ‘OFA’ pay you to sit down writing this tripe?

You’re an Obama-whore trying to spread dissension on conservative web sites. Honest much? Conscience - very little.


66 posted on 06/01/2012 1:45:10 PM PDT by shadowland
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To: Red Steel

One of the passports expired in May. This a gianormous CF. I still think Crump is behind this.


67 posted on 06/01/2012 1:46:26 PM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: Lazamataz
The headline says the bond IS revoked. But in the body of the article, all I can see is that the prosecution is ASKING for the bond to be revoked.

That's the first thing I noticed, too.
It is no wonder the Democrat "mainstream" newsrooms are dying. I only wish they'd hurry up and be dead already.

68 posted on 06/01/2012 1:51:25 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Red Steel
Oh Reilly? Lied to the court? I don't know about that seeing how the state of Florida has acted scandalous in this matter. They don't have much credibility.

His own attorney acknowledges that he failed to disclose the extra money and the second passport.

The cop initially and the local prosecutor's office cleared Zimmerman and they are correct. The evidence clearly supports Zimmerman as it is consistent with his side of events.

According to the records that were released a couple of weeks ago, the police initially recommended that he be charged with manslaughter.

With respect to the evidence supporting Zimmerman, not all of the evidence has been publicly released. Most importantly, Zimmerman's own statements to the police & prosecutors haven't been released. The prosecution claims he made inconsistent statements. His lawyer claims he did not. We don't know what he said. Considering that he was the only person there who is alive, it's hard to come to any definitive conclusion about exactly what happened without seeing those statements.

69 posted on 06/01/2012 1:59:07 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: shadowland

Thank you Shadowland!


70 posted on 06/01/2012 1:59:42 PM PDT by rhubarbk
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To: Lancey Howard

If the bond wasn’t revoked, how can the judge order Zimmerman back to jail in 48 hours? I think the judge ordering Zimmerman back to jail is ipso facto revocation of bail? That is, the judge accepted the prosecutions request that bail be revoked.

This is disturbing. I don’t even see, based on what has been made public, how any judge in good conscience can even allow this travesty to move forward.

Even more disturbing to me, is the knowledge that black America has essentially declared all out violent war on white and asian Americans - a one-sided war.

It’s time to open our eyes and take a hard cold assessment of this situation. There is no government that will help us in this national crisis. The executive branch has been completely compromised to the thugs.


71 posted on 06/01/2012 2:04:04 PM PDT by shadowland (Not a lawyer or a guest at Holiday Inn.)
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To: Melas

“= flight risk.”

The irony here is he’s not a traditional flight risk trying to escape justice in the court.

He’s a risk because he’s trying to escape the lynch mob blacks that want him dead ASAP.


72 posted on 06/01/2012 2:09:09 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Talisker
Brazen harrassment and setup for murder. They want Zimmerman in jail so he can be whacked by another prisoner (no doubt paid), and get them off the hook for falsely charging him.

Bingo. sad, but true. The prosecutors know they can't get a conviction, but it would be "convenient" if Zimmerman "went away". It's the "New Justice"©.

73 posted on 06/01/2012 2:09:16 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: shadowland
Reviewing your past posts on this board it appears you side with black thugs and illegal immigrants in near every one of them. How much does ‘OFA’ pay you to sit down writing this tripe?

My position on the Zimmerman case all along has been that we don't have all of the evidence, and we don't know exactly what happened or who started the confrontation. That's not "siding with" Martin, that's just not jumping to a conclusion either way.

You’re an Obama-whore trying to spread dissension on conservative web sites. Honest much? Conscience - very little.

You're saying (in the context of this discussion) that because I don't jump to a conclusion about Zimmerman's guilt or innocence, and because I don't think he should have lied to the court, I am "an Obama-whore trying to spread dissention on conservative websites"? That's absurd.

74 posted on 06/01/2012 2:12:31 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: skeeter; Lurker

1. When the public mood was being fed by the MSM so that Zimmerman was being seen as a vile racist killer, the prosecution didn’t have a problem with it.

2. Now that the facts are leaking out, and Zimmerman is seen as someone who didn’t just shoot a Black man for the thrill of it, and may have in fact had good reason, the prosecutor is suddenly suffering from a severe case of the vapors.

3. The MSM might be forgiven for jumping the gun here, because it’s my take the Justice Department was the driving force behind these charges, and whatever the prosecution asks for, they’re likely to get in this atmosphere. The prosecution has spoken. It’s a fate accompli.


75 posted on 06/01/2012 2:12:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent...)
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To: 6SJ7
It's the "New Justice"©.

Sorry to be the spelling cop here that it is spelled. Just Us.

76 posted on 06/01/2012 2:14:16 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day. Another small provocation. Another step closer.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

No, actually what I was saying is: You are neither a conservative or possessed of a conscience.

Sorry if there was any misunderstanding.


77 posted on 06/01/2012 2:19:59 PM PDT by shadowland
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To: shadowland
No, actually what I was saying is: You are neither a conservative or possessed of a conscience. And you base that personal attack on what, exactly?
78 posted on 06/01/2012 2:23:27 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Lurker

This is about denying the defense attorney access to his client. With access the defense attorney is better able to work assembling a defense and contact a client with questions regarding the case.

With the defendat in jail, the prosecutors are playing games to cover their weak case. CLIENTS ALWAYS underestimate their financial resources. This is selective enforcement.

The AP article is also a lie designed to tamper with the jury. The judge should call upon the AP for a rule to show cause why they should not be held in contempt. (they have submitted themselves to the court via motions)

They asked but it does not say they filed a written motion NOR was it noticed for hearing at that time.

This article is way beyond mere yellow journalism.


79 posted on 06/01/2012 2:31:11 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
That was not a personal attack. If you took it that way you should settle down a little.

You could also enter some info in your FR home page to tell us your location and a little about yourself.

80 posted on 06/01/2012 2:33:45 PM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
According to the records that were released a couple of weeks ago, the police initially recommended that he be charged with manslaughter.

You mean that one guy but was overruled by everyone else in the initial investigation.

With respect to the evidence supporting Zimmerman, not all of the evidence has been publicly released. Most importantly, Zimmerman's own statements to the police & prosecutors haven't been released. The prosecution claims he made inconsistent statements. His lawyer claims he did not. We don't know what he said. Considering that he was the only person there who is alive, it's hard to come to any definitive conclusion about exactly what happened without seeing those statements.

What has been made public clears him.

The prosecution claims he made inconsistent statements.

And did the prosecutor say what they were yet? Yeah, that's what I thought. ...Did he get the time of day wrong or something - off by a minute or two? Sounds like obfuscation to to keep the farce going. And what I've seen, this prosecutor, who looks like the female gym teacher in the original Porky's movie, she is not above playing games.

81 posted on 06/01/2012 2:46:54 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

I’m not opposed to people being contrarian. In fact I prefer people to be free thinkers than marching in lockstep with the group. One thing I hate about the Democratic party is how regimented and marching in lockstep it has become.

Still, when I see someone claiming to be a conservative on what is obviously a right-leaning website, and opposing in near every post the general beliefs of the people who use the site, it raises a red flag for me. It smacks of gamesmanship, it smells of ‘the lie.’ It makes me think of Obama and his style.


82 posted on 06/01/2012 2:48:51 PM PDT by shadowland
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
The prosecution claims he made inconsistent statements. His lawyer claims he did not.

I'm not so sure O'Mara has made such a statement. There are lots of inconsistent statements. I especially liked the one witness who saw the black man in handcuffs. It needs to be resolved whether Zimmerman made any materially relevant misleading statements. Try telling a story 5x over and getting all the details right.

83 posted on 06/01/2012 2:49:04 PM PDT by ironman
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To: Lurker

Legal eagles: does this mean Zim has to go to jail, or will he just have to put up more bond money?


84 posted on 06/01/2012 2:54:05 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: ken in texas
That was not a personal attack. If you took it that way you should settle down a little.

That's the usual defensive mechanism for libs when you make an observation about their behavior and sometimes it is over months and years of observation.

85 posted on 06/01/2012 2:55:21 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Melas

was the other passport expired?

he surrended his current passport. An expired passport hardly qualifies.

again the prosecution is playing childish games. The money has never been hidden.

it is unusual for a prosecutor to play this type of game. Particularly when the actual information is disclosed.

This prosecutor/msm wants the in custody visual for their story since the case is falling appart before their big lie driven eyes.


86 posted on 06/01/2012 3:06:19 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ken in texas
That was not a personal attack. If you took it that way you should settle down a little.

The guy called me an "Obama-whore" - sorry if I took that as a personal attack/.

87 posted on 06/01/2012 3:07:20 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Lurker

What a fiasco. How did his lawyers not know about this website? *WE* knew about this website.


88 posted on 06/01/2012 3:08:57 PM PDT by newzjunkey (I advocate separation of school and sport)
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To: ken in texas

“You could also enter some info in your FR home page to tell us your location and a little about yourself.”

Why? I never have.

.


89 posted on 06/01/2012 3:13:23 PM PDT by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: shadowland

To the extent I come across as excessively contrarian, it’s because I frankly find it boring to essentially post “me too, I agree” type posts. So, I am more likely to post in a thread where I disagree with some or all of what is being said than a thread where I agree with what is being said. In the Zimmerman-Martin case, I tend not to agree with the “general beliefs of the people who use this site,” as you put it, in that the “general beliefs” appear to be that Zimmerman is 100% innocent, while I am hesitant to reach any conclusion before we see all of the facts and evidence.


90 posted on 06/01/2012 3:13:29 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: longtermmemmory
he surrended his current passport. An expired passport hardly qualifies.

I'm not sure that's clear. I haven't seen any information about whether Zimmerman surrendered the original (cancelled) passport, or the replacement (current) passport.

91 posted on 06/01/2012 3:15:36 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Lurker

the day of the bond hearing, there was $150,000 in the account. “I am the real George Zimmerman,” a message on the site begins. / This website’s sole purpose is to ensure my supporters they are receiving my full attention without any intermediaries.”

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I have created a Paypal account solely linked on this website as I would like to provide an avenue to thank my supporters personally and ensure that any funds provided are used only for living expenses and legal defense, in lieu of my forced inability to maintain employment. I will also personally, maintain accountability of all funds received. I reassure you, every donation is appreciated.

Sincerely,

George Zimmerman
__________________ At the time of the bond hearing, there was $150,000 in the account.


92 posted on 06/01/2012 3:19:18 PM PDT by anglian
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Then we are in some ways alike.

I’m pretty confident based on what I’ve read and seen, that Zimmerman is innocent on grounds of self defense. The burden of proof is on your side.

Before today I was doubtful that there would even be a trial. If what is in the public domain is any indicator, it is doubtful you could find a jury to convict. I don’t know if ‘over-charging’ is allowed as a tactic in FL. As a strategy it would seem very unethical in this case. That is what I consider the ‘conservative’ argument. I believe this because my conscience tells me.


93 posted on 06/01/2012 3:29:30 PM PDT by shadowland
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
His own attorney acknowledges that he failed to disclose the extra money and the second passport.

Did his attorney acknowledge he lied, as you have here?

And how the hell would you know?

94 posted on 06/01/2012 3:45:28 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Mears
You don't have to do anything. I think it's a good idea to post a little info but it's hardly a requirement.

I just noticed your page says "Female" and "Old".

Since you're snipping at me I'll assume you're a young male.

95 posted on 06/01/2012 3:47:59 PM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: jakerobins
"I believe there is little chance of a “fair” trial."

Bite your tongue (fingers in this case). There has to be at least 13 honest people left in Florida. They can't all be corrupt.

Considering there was a bounty on Mr Zimmerman's head, it wasn't called off nor was he given any protection, I see no reason why he didn't reveal his second passport.

I'll play a democrat now: Did the judge ask for ALL passports or did he just ask for A passport.
Strangers were donating to Mr Zimmerman's account, not MRS Zimmerman's. Does she have access to that account? If not, then how would she know how much is in it? it's not hers so she can't be held accountable for it. Since when are donations considered income if he hasn't touched it or asked for it? Wasn't that money for Mr Zimmerman's legal defense anyway?

If it were me in his shoes, I don't know if I would reveal the paypal money till I spoke with an accountant to find out under what classification that money would fall into, or if I can use the money and for what.

96 posted on 06/01/2012 3:49:17 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Red Steel
According to Rush, some BS excuse for not telling his wife about some extra money in his paypal account ...

It was $135,000.

97 posted on 06/01/2012 4:13:41 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: ken in texas

“Since you’re snipping at me I’ll assume you’re a young male. “

I wish. :-)


98 posted on 06/01/2012 4:23:49 PM PDT by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: VanShuyten

Apparently, the prosecutor has tapes of Zimmerman’s phone conversations with his wife when he was in jail. They were speaking in code and discussing how to hide the money. This is very bad for Zimmerman.


99 posted on 06/01/2012 4:24:48 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: Jaded
One of the passports expired in May.

I wonder if the reality is something like this - disclaimer - my thoughts only: "Yes, I have two passports. The shooting was February 26. I renewed my passport a few months ago as I knew it expired in May. Now I have my new one. It arrived a few weeks ago. Everything is the same on it." . . "The money thing, I told my attorney about the PayPal account. Everyone knew about it, it was no secret. I didn't know using $5000 (or whatever the exact amount was) for part of the bail money was breaking any rules."

Can't wait to hear his side of it.

100 posted on 06/01/2012 4:30:29 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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