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Southern Baptists reprimand top official over Trayvon Martin remarks (Richard Land-loses radio show)
CNN ^ | June 1, 2012 | Dan Gilgoff

Posted on 06/01/2012 12:50:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The country’s largest evangelical Christian denomination on Friday announced it is reprimanding one of its top officials over comments he made regarding the Trayvon Martin case, pledging to cancel the official’s national radio show.

The trustee committee of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission announced two reprimands on Friday for Richard Land, who leads public policy efforts for the Southern Baptists, according to the official press arm.

The first reprimand was for remarks Land - one of the country's most powerful evangelical leaders - made about the Martin case. The second was because Land lifted some remarks from another source on his radio show without using attribution.

The commission will move to terminate Land’s radio program, “Richard Land Live!” because of the controversy, the Baptist Press reported.

In March, Land spoke of African-American activists and the Rev. Al Sharpton as “racial ambulance chasers” in the Martin case, in which the 17-year-old was shot to death in Florida by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman.

“When there is violence it’s going to be Jesse Jackson’s fault,” Land said on his show, according to the Religion News Service. “It’s going to be Al Sharpton’s fault. It’s going to be Louis Farrakhan’s fault, and to a certain degree it’s going to be President Obama’s fault.”

On Friday, the trustee executive committee said in a statement that Land’s comments were “very hurtful and offensive to the Trayvon Martin family and too many in the African-American community...

(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...


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Reprimanded and taken off the air for telling the truth? Will Holder charge him with a hate crime?
1 posted on 06/01/2012 12:50:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The truth shall get you fired.


2 posted on 06/01/2012 12:53:39 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Every Christian preacher should re-read about Peter. He was afraid so he denied Christ. As far as I’m concerned the SBC is afraid. Most preachers are afraid. They all should be standing at the pulpit reading Patrick Henry’s speech.


3 posted on 06/01/2012 12:54:53 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These are the types of things that lead me to believe the end times are at hand, when even a Christian organization adopts this thinking.

Shameless fascism.


4 posted on 06/01/2012 12:55:11 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Forget the GOP and build the Constitution Party, because the status quo is no longer the way to go.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In March, Land spoke of African-American activists and the Rev. Al Sharpton as “racial ambulance chasers” in the Martin case, in which the 17-year-old was shot to death in Florida by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman.

“When there is violence it’s going to be Jesse Jackson’s fault,” Land said on his show, according to the Religion News Service. “It’s going to be Al Sharpton’s fault. It’s going to be Louis Farrakhan’s fault, and to a certain degree it’s going to be President Obama’s fault.”

I agree with these remarks. There has been SILENCE from the race-baiters who stirred up a lynch mob mentality with a bounty on Zimmerman's head. There has been SILENCE over the black-on-white crimes of violence as mobs and gangs assault people "in revenge" for Trayvon.

Can't have it both ways. Either you condemn the wrongful actions of all, or shut the hell up until the investigation and trial are over.

It's a JOKE that Al Sharpton was an interview guest in the documentary about how James Brown "saved" Boston by permitting his concert to be telecast LIVE locally (and repeatedly) in the wake of the MLK assassination while pleading for black people to not lose their cool.

Sharpton and Jackson are insults to the legacies of James Brown and MLK.

5 posted on 06/01/2012 12:56:20 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Washington could not tell a lie, Nixon could not tell the truth, Obama can't tell the difference.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In March, Land spoke of African-American activists and the Rev. Al Sharpton as “racial ambulance chasers” in the Martin case, in which the 17-year-old was shot to death in Florida by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman.

“When there is violence it’s going to be Jesse Jackson’s fault,” Land said on his show, according to the Religion News Service. “It’s going to be Al Sharpton’s fault. It’s going to be Louis Farrakhan’s fault, and to a certain degree it’s going to be President Obama’s fault.”


The eleventh commandment: Thou shalt not tell the truth.


6 posted on 06/01/2012 12:58:26 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: MichaelCorleone
Shameless fascism.

Well, these are Southern Baptists we are talking about here.
7 posted on 06/01/2012 1:00:20 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Apparently, THEY CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!


8 posted on 06/01/2012 1:02:26 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All members of the SBC who believe that this is BS should just call the HQ and tell them that they are going to withdraw their financial support and quit their organization. This is the only effective way to beat these moral cowards in line.


9 posted on 06/01/2012 1:03:06 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In the meantime, on his nationally syndicated radio program, Al Sharpton alleges GOP like Hitler, ready to exterminate blacks . Turning the dial a little, New Black Panther "Field marshal" King Samir Shabazz (on his national radio show) says "Whites ‘Should be Thankful We’re Not Hanging Crackers By Nooses…Yet ". Nothing to see here...
11 posted on 06/01/2012 1:03:33 PM PDT by kevcol
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Land spoke the truth (in the past, I thought Land was a little easy on the illegal alien stuff) but it's obvious that the "committee of SBC Trustees" simply "can't handle the truth," especially this close to their National Convention.

Would that those attending the Convention reprimand those on the committee.

12 posted on 06/01/2012 1:03:33 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“When there is violence it’s going to be Jesse Jackson’s fault,”

“It’s going to be Al Sharpton’s fault.”

It’s quite apparent that Jesse and Al have been trying to cause a race war. They jump at every opportunity to throw gasoline on any fire.


13 posted on 06/01/2012 1:04:59 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=37804

I had no clue this was even happening. There is some background at the link above.


14 posted on 06/01/2012 1:06:26 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: DarthVader
Amen to that. Those of us supporting the SBC need to make our voices heard over this one NOW before the SBC Convention or at least stand up during it and tell them loud and clear, we are NOT Holder/Obama/Sharpton/Jackson Baptists!
15 posted on 06/01/2012 1:06:26 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Chicken sh*t church leadership. No news here.


16 posted on 06/01/2012 1:08:26 PM PDT by Check6 (United States of Moronia: A nation of morons ruled by a gang of communist thugs.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great read! I doubt Jackson would have been afraid of riots.


17 posted on 06/01/2012 1:10:13 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: zerosix

Do it and encourage everyone you know to participate. The Chairman of the SBC are spineless cowards wrapping themselves in facade of false decency. What they are doing is an abomination to God.

It will work if a large number of folks put their foot down. It is time to take a stand for righteousness.


18 posted on 06/01/2012 1:10:45 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: DarthVader
Yes, I agree with you on the head of the SBC, weak and self-serving.

Too bad Johnny Hunt wasn't at the head when Land spoke about the Martin case. Now there's a man who will stand up for truth, no matter where it is found or who is speaking!

You are correct and you may count on me "spreading the word" on this one.

19 posted on 06/01/2012 1:17:40 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: MichaelCorleone

End times?

Men have always been fools.

The world has always been dangerous, corrupt, violent, diseased. Nothing new under the sun.


20 posted on 06/01/2012 1:18:36 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The problem with so many Baptists. They can not handle the truth.
Why don't you take just one Baptist fishing?
He will drink all your beer.
There are not enough Lutherans and Catholics in the bible belt to keep all the package stores in business. Somebody else is buying.
21 posted on 06/01/2012 1:28:28 PM PDT by John D
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To: John D

“The problem with so many Baptists. They can not handle the truth.
Why don’t you take just one Baptist fishing?
He will drink all your beer.”

LOL!

We can drink beer, just not enjoy it.


22 posted on 06/01/2012 1:30:56 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The second was because Land lifted some remarks from another source on his radio show without using attribution."

So an apology for the plagiarism should have been sufficient and then Land should have stayed where he was? Seems to me there's more going on with Land than meets the eye and this is the public excuse. Otherwise, this wouldn't have been sufficient for them to remove him since they're not nearly so timid as people seem to think or they'd never have filed suit against the government over the HHS mandate. I think another shoe will drop before long with either the committee that did this being the real problem or there being a much bigger problem with Land.

JMHO

23 posted on 06/01/2012 1:30:59 PM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: John D

I see we’re getting in the hate-the-Baptists on this thread.


24 posted on 06/01/2012 1:42:05 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh dear. Someone nobody ever heard of lost a crappy radio show nobody has ever heard of.


25 posted on 06/01/2012 1:43:23 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: F15Eagle
I see we’re getting in the hate-the-Baptists on this thread.

I do not hate Baptists. It is just that so many of them are so hypocritical. Drinking is a sin, but smoking at the front door is ok. Dancing is a sin, but interrupting the sermon with their amens is fine.
Like I said, while they preach the evils of alcohol the package stores down here are not staying in business with just the few Lutherans and Catholics that are down here.
26 posted on 06/01/2012 2:12:59 PM PDT by John D
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To: John D

So you’re casting the first stone?


27 posted on 06/01/2012 2:14:07 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: DariusBane

“Oh dear. Someone nobody ever heard of lost a crappy radio show nobody has ever heard of.”

From your post, you have missed the real issue. The announcer told the truth about Jackson and Sharpton and the rest of the Professional Race Baiters Assn. members, including Obama.

When the Southern Baptists go along with this race pandering, something is rotten in their leadership core beliefs. One must suspect cowardice and an unwillingness to refuse to join the black/Democrat efforts to lynch Zimmerman.

Don’t forget Obama wants an excuse to have large scale riots so he can impose martial law, suspend the election, ad nauseam.

If the Southern Baptist leadership is no better than the cowards on that “counsel”, Southern Baptists are in deep “Skittles”.


28 posted on 06/01/2012 2:28:13 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Terry Mross; 2ndDivisionVet

Great read?

I thinks the AM thinks otherwise.


29 posted on 06/01/2012 2:35:42 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: a fool in paradise

I think Sharpton was James Brown’s Road Manager after his white one died of a heart attack. I knew him, but can’t remember his name right now.....I can see him....he was NOT attractive.


30 posted on 06/01/2012 3:44:12 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: F15Eagle

Do you disagree with anything I said?


31 posted on 06/01/2012 4:13:20 PM PDT by John D
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To: kevcol

The FBI website shows that blacks kill whites at a rate 18 times the rate that whites kill blacks.

The same website shows that 93 percent of the 9000 blacks killed each year are by other blacks.


32 posted on 06/01/2012 4:18:50 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: John D

Well, unless you polled everyone going in and verified it, there is no logical basis for your statement other than an apparent predisposed dislike for Baptists.

Secondly, for the past year or more, there has been a rash of Protestant-bashing, and indeed Baptist-bashing on threads where it is not directly related to the content of the article.

I for one am sick and tired of it and I’m going to start challenging it on the open threads if the abuse button doesn’t work on these unwarranted statements.


33 posted on 06/01/2012 4:26:02 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

I’m tired of the Baptist Bashing as well. Thanks for standing up and speaking out!


34 posted on 06/01/2012 4:46:31 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Absolutely.

When I discuss denominations, it’s about doctrines or statements by leaders, not make sweeping judgements about members, which I think is what FR reasonably asks.


35 posted on 06/01/2012 4:50:04 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: John D; randomhero97

If only we could everyone to vote like the Southern Baptists.


36 posted on 06/01/2012 5:04:07 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: John D

You made a bunch of unproven insult type attacks against America’s second largest church about hypocrisy, but we can measure hypocrisy by what the various denominations do in the voting booth, and Southern Baptists vote Christian/conservative by about 80% according to conservapedia.


37 posted on 06/01/2012 5:24:31 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: randomhero97

Wow, your posting when it comes to anything God related, is not what most would call friendly.


38 posted on 06/01/2012 5:27:00 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: F15Eagle
, there has been a rash of Protestant-bashing, and indeed Baptist-bashing on threads where it is not directly related to the content of the article.

Isn't the post about the SBC condemning free speech?
Who does more bashing than the Baptists? They bash the use of alcohol, while like I said before the package stores would not be able to stay in business without Baptist support.
I am not bashing Protestants, I am a Protestant, I am a member of the first Protestant Church. I am a Lutheran, but we do not condemn the use of alcohol, only to use it when we think nobody is looking.
39 posted on 06/01/2012 5:27:35 PM PDT by John D
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To: John D

It’s about Political Correctness taking over the churches - probably because the agendas of gov’t officials.

Secondly, it’s YOUR beer, but you only noted it was “a Baptist” who would drink all of YOUR beer.

Then you noted it must be the Baptists keeping all the liquor stores in business in the Bible Belt.

Generalize much?

Sweeping statements about Baptists, the Bible Belt as you call it, and alcohol is inappropriate on open threads.

There was no discussion of alcohol, liquor stores along with Baptists in the article.

How would you like it if we started making sweeping statements about you and your church congregation on open threads?

But no, we are not going to do that.

We wouldn’t. Because it’s not right and it shouldn’t be allowed.


40 posted on 06/01/2012 5:36:30 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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s/b insinuated it was the Baptists

“Why don’t you take just one Baptist fishing?

He will drink all your beer.

There are not enough Lutherans and Catholics in the bible belt to keep all the package stores in business. Somebody else is buying.”


41 posted on 06/01/2012 5:40:37 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: ansel12

I agree, Baptists do for the most part vote very conservatively. My problem with them is that they want to force all their ideals on everybody else, while they do not follow them themselves.


42 posted on 06/01/2012 5:41:52 PM PDT by John D
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To: John D

“My problem with them”

Well, at least we got to the root of the posts.


43 posted on 06/01/2012 5:45:57 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: John D

They have some awesome package stores in Tennessee...of course; I wouldn’t have been in there in the FIRST place if they sold ‘Arrogant Bastard’ ale in the grocery stores like most states...


44 posted on 06/01/2012 5:45:57 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: F15Eagle
There was no discussion of alcohol, liquor stores along with Baptists in the article

I was only pointing out their hypocrisy. They want to force their ideals on everybody else, while not following them themselves.
45 posted on 06/01/2012 5:46:08 PM PDT by John D
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To: John D

Ah, only the Baptists have hypocrisy.

Got it.


46 posted on 06/01/2012 5:48:44 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So speaking the truth now gets you punished in the SBC?


47 posted on 06/01/2012 5:49:39 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: F15Eagle

If the shoe fits


48 posted on 06/01/2012 5:55:39 PM PDT by John D
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To: who knows what evil?
They have some awesome package stores in Tennessee

And they are allowed to be open on Sunday. More expensive but still open. I have often had to make the 20 mile trip north before GA realized how much revenue they were losing.
49 posted on 06/01/2012 6:00:50 PM PDT by John D
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To: John D

Those shoes of sin fit every human man and woman, to one degree or another.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2018:9-14&version=KJV

Luke 18:9-14

King James Version (KJV)

9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.


50 posted on 06/01/2012 6:00:50 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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