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Outcry over Romney's Mass. affirmative action move
Miami Herald ^ | 6/1/2012 | Andrew Miga

Posted on 06/02/2012 7:29:54 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote

WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney scuttled the Massachusetts government's long-standing affirmative action policies with a few strokes of his pen on a sleepy holiday six months after he became governor.

No news conference or news release trumpeted Romney's executive order on Bunker Hill Day, June 17, 2003, in the deserted Statehouse. But when civil rights leaders, black lawmakers and other minority groups learned of Romney's move two months later, it sparked a public furor.

Romney drew criticism for cutting the enforcement teeth out of the law and rolling back more than two decades of affirmative action advances.

Civil rights leaders said his order stripped minorities, women, disabled people and veterans of equal access protections for state government jobs and replaced them with broad guidelines. They complained Romney hadn't consulted them before making the changes, snubbing the very kind of inclusion he professed to support.

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous
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Left in meltdown.
1 posted on 06/02/2012 7:30:02 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: GlockThe Vote

Nice try, ignorant press.

Admit it...you are doomed.

Please take your cretin pres with you.


2 posted on 06/02/2012 7:36:02 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: GlockThe Vote

The left doesn’t want equality. The left demands inequality and calls it “equality.”


3 posted on 06/02/2012 7:36:52 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: GlockThe Vote

The more they whine, the happier I am.


4 posted on 06/02/2012 7:40:04 AM PDT by theDentist (FYBO/FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Good businessmen tend to prefer qualifications based hires and merit based promotions.


5 posted on 06/02/2012 7:41:03 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over...)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Someone in Miami thinks this article will HURT Romney?

Ha! I doubt that.

Certainly, won’t hurt him around here.


6 posted on 06/02/2012 7:42:17 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: GlockThe Vote
"I believe our nation is at its best when people are evaluated as individuals," [Romney] said in a 2008 Washington Post issues survey.

There's one more difference between Romney and Obama.

While far from the ideal candidate, this puts the lie to those who would have us believe that Romney is "no different" than Obama.

7 posted on 06/02/2012 7:42:17 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: GlockThe Vote

I like this move. I am tired of less qualified people getting jobs simply because they are a minority. If I ran a business, I would want to be able to hire the best person for the job regardless of their identity status. Identity doesn’t matter to me. Same goes for voting for the right person. I don’t give a crap about identity/minority status.


8 posted on 06/02/2012 7:42:55 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I worked with an IT tech in the 90’s who was black. He was also brilliant at what he did. He once told me that he didn’t like AA because people always assumed he was incompetent before they got to know him and realized that he wasn’t hired for skin color.


9 posted on 06/02/2012 7:45:28 AM PDT by Baynative (REMEMBER: Without America there is no free world!)
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To: BenLurkin

“The left demands inequality, etc.”

My 8th grade daughter attended her highschool “flyup” day. There was a “diversity” club. A person was supposed to stand up when their niche was called - If that isn’t labeling and the opposite of diversity, then I don’t know what is!

PS - she stood up when they said “who has trouble talking” because she had just gotten braces. The rest clapped and found it very funny - she is pretty and popular BTW, so making it a farce - the club was a farce and the 8th graders seemed to know it


10 posted on 06/02/2012 7:45:38 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: SamAdams76

Anyone still saying these two are the same are delusional.

Has romney befriended domestic terrorists and communist radicals?


11 posted on 06/02/2012 7:47:36 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Mitt beats Obama, and then some.


12 posted on 06/02/2012 7:51:08 AM PDT by pallis
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To: GlockThe Vote
What's amazing is they apparently believe this will damage his chances. Obama has a record he cannot defend and is no longer a fresh face and unknown novelty act the independents will turn to to reassure themselves that they're not really racists after all. In those circumstances the main danger for Romney has always been an unmotivated or even rebellious Conservative base uncharacteristically not showing up at the polls in November.

When the so called "elites" in New York, Washington, or Hollywood look around at their surroundings they see only like minded nodding toward the shibboleths of race preference and the idolization of the minority (ghetto gangster, sodomite, Islamic, whatever). This kind of attack trying to demonize Romney as some sort of arch Conservative in the mold of their favorite image of Sauron the Great, Dick Cheney, will only strengthen him.

13 posted on 06/02/2012 7:52:46 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Baynative

Just so. I’ve known a few very smart black people, and they were handicapped by everyone’s assumption that they had gotten where they were because of affirmative action.

I remember writing a grad school recommendation for a black student who was one of the two or three brightest I had ever taught, and trying to figure out how to make that clear in the recommendation letter so the selection committees wouldn’t think I was just doing the usual affirmative action thing.

I must have done it right, because he did get into Yale.


14 posted on 06/02/2012 7:53:07 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
That was the first thing when I saw the headline. The only people who like AA are hardened democrats. Despite the bias of the article of not explaining specifically what goes on in such an AA policy, most people know what it is and hate it including the vast majority of independents.
15 posted on 06/02/2012 7:53:28 AM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: pallis

Tell that to some of the obama lovers around here. Remember obama called them Obamicans early on?


16 posted on 06/02/2012 8:01:09 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote
"Anyone still saying these two are the same are delusional."

Unfortunately, there are a couple of dozen VERY VOCAL posters on this site who fit that category. It makes moving forward much less fun. It's time for us to stop apologizing for soon to be POTUS Romney, and continue emphasizing his strong points.

For me, I will no longer start pro Romney posts with " I would have preferred......., but......."

17 posted on 06/02/2012 8:04:40 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Diversity Day

Sill one of the funniest episodes.

18 posted on 06/02/2012 8:13:06 AM PDT by mykroar (October race riots bring November martial law.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

They are recycling old articles?

Holy crap! That’s when the barrel has been scraped dry.


19 posted on 06/02/2012 8:13:40 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm STILL supporting Newt.)
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To: norwaypinesavage
I predicted that many of you "hold my nose" ABOs would over a short period of time evolve into Romney lovers.

It looks like you are well along the way in the process, if you were ever truly an ABO in the first place.

As for us "couple of dozen" posters who disagree with your capitulation, perhaps you can get this site's owner to ban us all.

20 posted on 06/02/2012 8:14:16 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: CharacterCounts
As for us "couple of dozen" posters who disagree with your capitulation, perhaps you can get this site's owner to ban us all.

No, I'd rather you just accept reality: he's the nominee. Obama's the opponent. One of those two will win in November.

Those are facts I'd be willing to bet my life savings on. Now it's your choice how to proceed.

21 posted on 06/02/2012 8:22:41 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: Baynative
My father had a brilliant lab technician (black lady) who worked for him back in the 1970's and told him the same thing.

FWIW, we just found Dad on a tribal registry in the 1940 census, which was just made public in April. We have no idea when or why he was taken off, but guess it was probably in the 1960's when AA hiring and free stuff from the government for the right ethnicity first reared its ugly head.

Dad never talked about it nor used it to get any job or promotion. We grew up thinking we were white with some Native Americans in the family tree and cousins we met at family reunions. We never realized it was so close.

22 posted on 06/02/2012 8:23:21 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: CharacterCounts

Dont want anyone banned for differing opinion, but the reality is that its either Mittens or Obama in November and while mittens may not be even close to our favorite pick, he is still better than obama by a mile.


23 posted on 06/02/2012 8:31:32 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Civil rights leaders said his order stripped minorities, women, disabled people and veterans of equal access protections for state government jobs and replaced them with broad guidelines.

Whoa. Hold on. Mitt OPPOSES special treatment for ANY ethnicity, religion, sexual behavior choice, gender, or age group?

Damn. Sounds pretty conservative to me.

Icing on the cake: he pissed off "civil rights leaders".

24 posted on 06/02/2012 8:53:32 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: GlockThe Vote

Well, there are a few Democrats who took advantage of the Mitt ban to sow discontent, and plenty of people here were happy to jump onto their threads and help. They have slowed down now that people can respond. It’s a sad circumstance we have to deal with. We can’t blame people for being disgusted with moderates, or Republicans who call themselves progressives. Mitt is better than Obama, infinitely better, and for that reason he has my vote, but that is a low hurdle. What he does from this point on will determine whether or not he deserves support from conservatives.


25 posted on 06/02/2012 9:17:47 AM PDT by pallis
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To: GlockThe Vote; All
From the article, buried down on page 2, since they probably think it's a good thing:

"To quell such criticism, Romney appointed a special advisory panel that included minority and civil rights leaders to recommend changes.

"The changes the panel wanted became too hot for the administration to deal with," said Leonard Alkins, who was head of the NAACP's Boston branch during the controversy and was a member of Romney's advisory panel. Alkins said many of the panel's recommendations were aimed at bolstering the policies Romney had abolished.

"Romney essentially walked away from the fight, ignoring his own advisory panel. Instead, he had state officials effectively follow the old affirmative action policies he had formally revoked with his executive order."

So when faced with criticism, he effectively left the old affirmative action policies in place despite his own executive order, and brought in the very people who are part of the problem to sit on an advisery board to be its solution?

Sorry guys, but this doesn't exactly make Romney a conservative hero or anti-affirmative action crusader. At the very least, the entirety of the article suggests that he's weak-willed and will back down whenever an action of his is challenged by the Left.

26 posted on 06/02/2012 9:24:15 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
At the very least, the entirety of the article suggests that he's weak-willed and will back down whenever an action of his is challenged by the Left.

Given that the Democrats had 80% of both legislative houses and could impeach and remove him at will, with the support of the MA electorate, I think this merely means the guy understands that he can only push as far as the political environment will allow. Politicians don't have the freedom we do of pushing for whatever we want, regardless of whether it's politically possible.

27 posted on 06/02/2012 9:50:40 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Given that the Democrats had 80% of both legislative houses and could impeach and remove him at will, with the support of the MA electorate, I think this merely means the guy understands that he can only push as far as the political environment will allow. Politicians don't have the freedom we do of pushing for whatever we want, regardless of whether it's politically possible.

Look ZF, it's time to get the stories straight. Was Romney our hero and paladin of conservative values, or was he the powerless pawn of the Massachusetts Democrat legislature? He can't be both, yet all we hear is the selective choice of one or the other based upon whether it will make Romney look good, or will preserve him from looking bad. That sort of logic is the type of thing that FReepers would decry if we were talking about anybody else but the GOP nominee. It just doesn't wash.

Further, if your argument really had merit, then he never would have made the provocative action to begin with.

28 posted on 06/02/2012 10:10:04 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
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To: CharacterCounts
I predicted that many of you "hold my nose" ABOs would over a short period of time evolve into Romney lovers.

I predict that on the day after election day no one here will be surprised to see you floating in the punchbowl.

29 posted on 06/02/2012 11:13:30 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Vigilanteman
We grew up thinking we were white with some Native Americans in the family tree and cousins we met at family reunions. We never realized it was so close.

Harvard Law School might have an opening soon.

30 posted on 06/02/2012 11:15:40 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: GlockThe Vote

I am liking Romney more and more


31 posted on 06/02/2012 12:00:08 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: GlockThe Vote

Romney, while I don’t like him or want him as president, as right in this move. Indeed - he really is in favor of equal protection -

Equal doesn’t mean same. It means that you base hiring and recruiting on the merits of the individual, not the color of their skin.


32 posted on 06/02/2012 12:52:07 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Dan Nunn
I have accepted reality a long time ago. Obama is going to lose this election in a landslide and will be lucky to get more than 5 states. Romney neither wants nor needs my help.

I am looking past the election on how told Romney to at least some conservative ideals, and in my mind, throwing our support to him without concrete promises is not the way to accomplish this.

I do have a problem with the Romney lovers who were masquerading as "hold your nose" conservatives, but now are feeling enabled to come out of the closest.

33 posted on 06/02/2012 3:51:13 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: GlockThe Vote
See my post at 33.

The banning comment was a joke, since the person doing the banning here is a lot closer to my position than the people who want us gone.

34 posted on 06/02/2012 3:58:41 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: CharacterCounts

I don’t like anyone being banned. I know what Romney is and I know what Obama is. Romney stinks ad probably will be horrible, however, Obama is instant lethal injection suicide.

It is what it is. I voted for Ron Paul in the primary, but now it’s about getting Obama the he’ll out office, nothing else.


35 posted on 06/02/2012 4:04:29 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Well, almost noone is able to stand up to the race baiters. At least he actually tried.
36 posted on 06/03/2012 12:41:19 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Cicero

I will refuse a black Dr. on that basis. I will assume AA is the reason they are where they are. Apologies to the truly capable, but I look out for #1.


37 posted on 06/03/2012 6:47:59 AM PDT by wrencher
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To: SomeCallMeTim
Someone in Miami thinks this article will HURT Romney?

Why would Romney care a fig about a single Black voter? He knows damn well 90% of them will again support Obama, and they get more handouts than any other Americans. There is much to be gained with other voters from stripping Blacks of their racial quotas, subsidies and welfare largesse.

38 posted on 06/03/2012 6:55:57 AM PDT by montag813
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