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'Heart-Broken' Black Pastors Want to Meet Obama Over Gay Marriage
Christian Post ^ | June 2, 2012 | Anugrah Kumar

Posted on 06/02/2012 2:59:09 PM PDT by NYer

Influential African-American pastors have requested Attorney General Eric Holder to grant them a meeting with President Barack Obama, saying he broke their hearts by endorsing gay marriage – "something that is simply wrong" – as a civil right.

"We pray for the President ... President Obama is the fulfillment of our dreams for our sons -- and he has broken our hearts by using his power and position to endorse as a civil right something that is simply wrong," the Rev. William Owens, founder and president of the Coalition of African American Pastors (CAAP), wrote in a letter to Holder late Thursday.

The coalition, which comprises of leaders of the black church and civil rights leaders who marched with the Rev. Martin Luther King, decided to seek a meeting with Obama after Holder announced he would speak with 350 black pastors to inform them of their rights in speaking for the president without violating their 501(c)3 status.

Organizations with 501(c)3 status are not allowed to be involved in fundraising, political campaigning or lobbying.

"I would pray you have enough residual respect for this group of clergy, to agree to meet with us and other national leaders to discuss our concerns over your and President Obama's endorsement of gay marriage as a civil right," Owens said in the letter, signed by numerous black pastors. "Some things are bigger than the next election."

A day after voters in North Carolina approved a constitutional ban on gay marriage and civil unions by a large margin, Obama announced May 9 that he supports legalizing same-sex marriage. In response to Obama's stance, the CAAP started gathering signatures on a marriage pledge – signed by over 1,000 African-American clergy and Christians thus far.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: africanamericans; blackchurch; christian; homosexualagenda; marriage; obama; pastors; ssm

1 posted on 06/02/2012 2:59:21 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

There is an old saying that I have heard. Be careful for what you pray, your prayers may be answered and you won’t like what you get.


2 posted on 06/02/2012 3:03:54 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: NYer

There is an old saying that I have heard. Be careful for what you pray, your prayers may be answered and you won’t like what you get.


3 posted on 06/02/2012 3:04:20 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: NYer

SUCKERS!


4 posted on 06/02/2012 3:04:46 PM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: NYer
Just accept you have another IDOL other than God in the black community and it has brought you this wolf in sheep's clothing. Unfortunately because you have placed race and self pity in front of God you were and are easily deceived.

That is my message to this paster and all the others that in a similar place. Don't go to the wolf for reassurance, go to GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He will lead you. This is a clear message to the black race from God "Do not place other idols before me!" Obviously this paster isn't hearing it. He goes to his graven idol/image for consolation.

5 posted on 06/02/2012 3:05:14 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: NYer

Funny how abortion never bothered them.


6 posted on 06/02/2012 3:06:38 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: NYer

They will be wasting their breath!


7 posted on 06/02/2012 3:06:59 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: NYer

Black Americans, enmasse, “adrift at sea”!!! Obama is not their God!!! He is the devil himself!!! American Blacks will come to rue the day they ever supported this incompetent, farce, flim/flam man Obama. Obama is for one thing, himself, only!!! Nothing else matters, but him!!!


8 posted on 06/02/2012 3:10:02 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

But they will still vote for him.


9 posted on 06/02/2012 3:11:05 PM PDT by James Mott
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To: NYer

These men need to be asked, “Do you serve God, or do you serve Obama?” Of course some of them no doubt think they are one and the same.


10 posted on 06/02/2012 3:12:31 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: NYer
"We pray for the President ... President Obama is the fulfillment of our dreams for our sons -- and he has broken our hearts by using his power and position to endorse as a civil right something that is simply wrong," the Rev. William Owens, founder and president of the Coalition of African American Pastors (CAAP), wrote in a letter to Holder late Thursday.

I'm sure it's nothing that Obama can't handle with a sutable amount of "porkulus" money for the Coalition of African American Pastors.

11 posted on 06/02/2012 3:12:48 PM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

My thoughts exactly!


12 posted on 06/02/2012 3:15:15 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Hey all you Black Pastors out there preaching hominy and Black Liberation Theology (that’s BLT, not for eating, but where you combine your black politics with your christian faith to create another gospel), suck it up, get over it, Obama is your ticket to a free lunch, and the one who’s going to give whitey his comeuppance... surely you can squeeze a little homoeroticism into your BLT for the cauz... git-wid-it-mayng...


13 posted on 06/02/2012 3:18:08 PM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: NYer

The Devil wears Obama!


14 posted on 06/02/2012 3:18:31 PM PDT by polkajello
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To: GOP Poet
Amen to your Post #5

How can these 'pastors' hearts be broken by a sinner? We are all sinners, yet these 'pastors' created themselves an idol out of man, simply due to the melanin content of his skin. Trust in God alone.
They knew this man was not a Christian (or they should have known), yet due to the hue of his skin color, they exulted him as someone to follow. If they had kept in God's Word, they would not have been surprised or 'heart broken'.

15 posted on 06/02/2012 3:21:35 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: GOP Poet

Bump to the top!


16 posted on 06/02/2012 3:22:33 PM PDT by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Funny how abortion never bothered them.

Obama's vote for the botched abortion execution law in IL did not raise nary an eyebrow from this bunch. The hypocrits will meet with their idol to find the proper weasel words to bring back to their congregations. Obama has their vote no matter what he does.

17 posted on 06/02/2012 3:33:08 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: NYer

Don’t go breakin’ my heart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcFlp6kl508


18 posted on 06/02/2012 3:34:57 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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Holder wants to coach black pastors in how to support Obama w/o violating the law.

Their response: “Some things are bigger than the next election.”

Obama is in serious trouble with these Christians & he doesn't even realize it.

19 posted on 06/02/2012 3:35:53 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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after Holder announced he would speak with 350 black pastors to inform them of their rights in speaking for the president without violating their 501(c)3 status.

Organizations with 501(c)3 status are not allowed to be involved in fundraising, political campaigning or lobbying.

Very strange that racist card Holder is suddenly concerned about the law, or is he just flipping them off?

20 posted on 06/02/2012 3:43:41 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: NYer
Obama will just tell them, look I need to get reelected, I need you, once I have four more years, I will sort this all out.

They will suck it up!

21 posted on 06/02/2012 3:53:46 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: NYer

Brother preachermen, are you now going to support the down-low? What’s next?


22 posted on 06/02/2012 3:55:11 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The First Bystander must be removed!)
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To: NYer

Gay marriage, fag month, and black preachers haven’t figured out that their boy is queer.


23 posted on 06/02/2012 3:58:45 PM PDT by pallis
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To: NYer

These Black churches are nothing but a joke resulting from a historical accident. Unlike the Catholic Church with its lineage to Christ, Peter, and the apostles and a Catechism that sets forth core beliefs, these Black Churches are as varied and disgusting as Rev. Wright’s pseudo-Church to those of Joel Osteen. They need to be dissolved.


24 posted on 06/02/2012 4:16:54 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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What’s ridiculous, is that all devout Christians know that being homo is a sin and the muslims (which he are one) are even more hateful of that sin! Severe penalties from the god of the pedophile, muhammad!

The Obamanation thought he could pick up some votes!

Methinks, nay, meknows that this is the dumbest person that was ever elected president, bar none.

Blessings, Bobo


25 posted on 06/02/2012 4:25:23 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Which reminds me, I heard a young black lady on Hannity, who has recently become aware of Margaret Sangers (Planned Parenthood) real intentions; Black Genocide.

It follows that the abortion business kills black children in highly disproportionate numbers. A percentage of blacks will come to the realization that Dems aren't doing them any favors, and are in fact, killing them. What percentage, I don't know, but Obie can't afford to lose many.

This gay thing will exacerbate the retreat.

26 posted on 06/02/2012 4:28:18 PM PDT by chiller (Elect another batch of TPartiers and it won't matter which R we elect. WE will lead.)
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To: NYer

Wake up, gentlemen. DO NOT vote for the son of Satan OBAMA merely because his skin color matches yours. Read your Bibles, pray and think. Encourage your parishoners to do likewise.


27 posted on 06/02/2012 4:46:59 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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“Influential African-American pastors have requested Attorney General Eric Holder to grant them a meeting with President Barack Obama’”
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Now that shows you how stupid I am.
I never knew Eric Holder could grant anyone a meeting with Obama.

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“decided to seek a meeting with Obama after Holder announced he would speak with 350 black pastors to inform them of their rights in speaking for the president without violating their 501(c)3 status.”
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So now Holder who is supposed to represent all of the people is now going to speak to 350 black pastors to tell them what they can get away with when they tell their parisioners to vote for Obama.

Does this sound a bit racist to anyone else? Especially when Holder decided to turn the New Black Panthers loose when they harrassed voters?

Obama may have stepped in it this time, but no matter whether he did or not, he has established a position that will be nearly impossible to rescind. There will be no way in hell any President to come after Obama will ever be able to rescind the order to allow open homosexuality in our military. He has ruined our military for good and all.


28 posted on 06/02/2012 4:50:42 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: NYer

Doesn’t matter what he has done or will do, they will still vote for him!


29 posted on 06/02/2012 4:54:17 PM PDT by ktw (72 ID, 536 HHC, Finally Retired after 25 years!)
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To: BerryDingle
Interesting that the "clarification" about political speech comes AFTER the President makes a decision that the clergy would not like.

In other words, if you speak up in support of Obama it isn't a violation of your 501(c)3 status. However, if you speak out AGAINST Obama, then your tax-exempt status is in question...

30 posted on 06/02/2012 4:55:12 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Jimmy Carter's incompetence + Richard Nixon's paranoia = Barack Obama)
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To: TexasNative2000

Cast adrift in the sea of their own stupidity.


31 posted on 06/02/2012 4:59:21 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: NYer

I hear a bus idling.


32 posted on 06/02/2012 5:03:02 PM PDT by Oratam
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Blinded eyes and sheeples. Take a great conservative mind and Christian Constitutionalist like Alan Keyes. The vast majority of Black leadership totally shuns the man but yet follow after Obama like puppy dogs fawning over the vapid One. Utter madness!


33 posted on 06/02/2012 5:10:54 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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I ask; just what percentage of gay marriage licenses are issued to blacks? Do gay folks marry with a mixed partner?

I believe that the black minister leaders are just being ornery and unless they should wake up tomorrow morning and have turned into a white devil; then fulfill your roll as black leaders and tend to your own flock.


34 posted on 06/02/2012 5:17:00 PM PDT by UncleSam (Why must someone else always make the final decisions?)
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Getting real crowded under the bus there, pastors? He threw your asses under there too. What did you expect?


35 posted on 06/02/2012 5:18:02 PM PDT by CPO retired
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To: NYer

If they had a burned out, drug addled, homosexual for a son he would look like this:


36 posted on 06/02/2012 5:32:45 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom. D. D. Eisenhower)
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To: James Mott

I have wondered how the supposedly God fearing African American church could turn a blind eye to BHO’s support for abortion, abortionists, and partial birth abortion AND their seemingly acceptance and endorsement of Black Liberation Theology (so steeped in Marxism) social justice and not equal justice and many other antiChrist inspired positions. Could it be they have changed their version of God and now it would appear the God they worship and serve is closer to Allah than Jehovah. Both cannot be God. I pick Jehovah since he sent His only begotten Son to die for my sins. Seems like Allah sent a murderous, blaspheming pedophile and polygamist. His Holy can that be?


37 posted on 06/02/2012 5:45:49 PM PDT by cashless (Unlike Obama and his supporters, I'd rather be a TEA BAGGER than a TEA BAGGEE.)
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To: cashless

Tough choice. Core values or race?

Can’t have both.


38 posted on 06/02/2012 6:07:23 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Odds are, most will go with the bro; get right later.


39 posted on 06/02/2012 7:27:24 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The First Bystander must be removed!)
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To: Iron Munro

Has he had dental work done? Those don’t look like his current teeth. Or his current nose. Can anyone post a current pic beside this one for comparison?


40 posted on 06/02/2012 7:27:24 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: dps.inspect
". . . after Holder announced he would speak with 350 black pastors to inform them of their rights in speaking for the president without violating their 501(c). . ."

Holder to black preachers, "As head of the Justice Department, and Obama as the Chief law enforcement officer, we guarantee there will be no investigation, no prosecutions for any of your campaigning in church in violation of your 501 (c) tax exemptions."

yitbos

41 posted on 06/03/2012 1:12:15 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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He ain’t no black guy. He’s playing a part. The Black ministeres should have no qualms in dumping him for his political stances. The only reason thy dont soundly dump him is that he has caste him political future with Blacks.


42 posted on 06/03/2012 8:38:30 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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Dear Black Pastors,

Refer back to Obama’s dealings with the catholic bishops.


43 posted on 06/03/2012 8:41:18 PM PDT by Scotswife
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...Owens said in the letter, signed by numerous black pastors. "Some things are bigger than the next election."

Sadly, that is NOT true in Barack Obama's world.

44 posted on 06/12/2012 2:18:15 PM PDT by SuziQ
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