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The List: A to Z Survival for the Abysmal Times Ahead
TSHTF Plan ^ | 6-2-2012 | Mac Slavo/Be Informed

Posted on 06/02/2012 7:34:00 PM PDT by blam

The List: A to Z Survival for the Abysmal Times Ahead

Be Informed
June 2nd, 2012

In a follow-up to his wildly popular article discussing How Horrific It Will Be For The Non-Prepper, contributor ‘Be Informed’ provides SHTFplan readers with an extensive list of preparedness and survival keywords and concepts for beginners and seasoned preppers alike.


It seems like no matter how well someone prepares, they inevitably find out they have forgotten something. That all important item or items that aren’t “remembered”, that merely only have to be mentioned by name to remind a person of what they needed. Most of the time when someone forgets an article of clothing or other minor object after beginning a vacation they can easily replace it or live without it. After a calamitous event, however, anything that a person has forgotten to store will likely be be impossible to obtain. What someone has in their possession at the time of the event is probably the ONLY thing they will be able to get.

The following list of A to Z survival items and survival related concepts details what one may have simply forgotten because there’s so much to prepare for. Kind of like; “oh yeah, I am glad that something reminded me of what I need”, or “that’s something I never thought of and I will need it”. Most everyone will, of course, not be able to amass everything on this list, and there will of course be items and ideas not mentioned here, but it should be a good place to start for beginners and seasoned preppers alike. A person can always add more to any list of their own essential needs, as lists such as this are almost endless. It should also be realized that no list of survival items and ideas are perfect for any individual, and just because someone has just a portion of what is on it doesn’t mean that they are not prepared.

The goal here is to have a general inventory of “key words” that have to do with prepping and survival that have very brief descriptions and short reasons behind why they are so important regarding survival preparedness. The aim is to keep each survival and prepping word or set of words as compact as possible – that is, to not bog down anyone with lengthy explanations that could easily fill an encyclopedia size book. When the prepper/survivalist sees a word in relation to preparing it can and does trigger an automated response that brings thoughts of whether they need or do not need to do something about it in their own planning.

This A to Z list of survival should help in that process.


- Ability and adept – the more skills you have the better.

- Able bodied – being physically fit helps anyone.

- Accumulate – tiny amounts eventually add up to a lot.

- Action – you should not put off what you need to do.

- Adaptability – to survive people will need to adapt.

- Advice – there is much good sound advice out there, seek it out.

- Aftermath – this is what is the longest and most difficult to survive.

- Air circulation – plan for this in ALL environments.

- Alcohol – both drinking and rubbing alcohol for sterilizing, wonderful barter items.

- Alarms – something to alert you to potential hazards

- Alive – the more supplies someone has to more likely they will say alive.

- Alone – prepare for this possibility of being completely without anyone around.

- Altitude – the higher up someone can be within reason to more they can see.

- Aluminum wrap – uses from wrapping up items to EMP protection to cooking.

- Ambush – prepare for this possibility when you are venturing outside.

- Ammunition – for your own firearms to fantastic barter item, get as much as you can.

- Anarchy – the likely scenario after most wide spread catastrophes, prepare for it.

- Anemia – something that most be guarded against, preventable with good food.

- Antennas – any radio needs extension receiving or transmission of weak signals.

- Antibiotics – natural or synthetic are an absolute must to store up.

- Aquaculture – consider fish farming, hydroponic vegetable growing if there’s nearby water.

- Aspirin – pain killer and blood thinners will be high in demand after a disaster.

- Attitude – keeping an upbeat mood with help those around you.

- Automobile – everything to keep it running as far as possible, a car first aid kit.


- Backpacks – make sure these are sturdy and don’t stress out your body.

- Bags – everything from trash, storage, sandbags, space bags.

- Baking soda – cooking and many other uses including helping to neutralize acids.

- Band aids – there will be many cuts that need to be covered up.

- Barbeque – this can be fire pits, gas grills, or whatever to cook and heat up something.

- Barrels and baskets – so many uses from water storage to collection of so much you need.

- Barriers – this is anything such as barbed wire to slow or stop an intruder.

- Barter – the new business for many that everyone needs to become quite adept at.

- Batteries – rechargeable are the best batteries but disposable ones are also good to have.

- Beasts of burden – may be the ONLY way to move anything heavy, the new “horsepower”.

- Bees – increase the yield of crops and get honey if you can care for them.

- Beans – so many different varieties with so much fiber and protein to them.

- Beneficial – try to aim for the better good of yourself and your survival group.

- Bicycle – actually the bicycle is one of the most efficient vehicles there is.

- Binoculars – aim for the most “light” gathering models, usually with the larger lenses.

- Bizarre – prepare yourselves for the ultimate weird and totally unexpected.

- Blankets – worth their weight many times over.

- Bleach – probably one of the top survival items that there is.

- Boats – this can be canoes, kayaks, etc. to transport you and your supplies to safety.

- Boil – still one the best ways to kill bacteria and other pathogen in water.

- Booby traps – to protect yourself and your supplies, but watch out for them set by others.

- Books – there was something that people used before the internet, which were books.

- Borax – a good cleaner for many items.

- Bottles – too many uses to mention.

- Bow and arrows – silent and can be a good alternative to those that cannot get firearms.

- Boxes – even the cardboard type offers economical ways of storing your supplies.

- Brackets – consider them to vertically help in stacking of supplies.

- Brain – your best asset with prepping and survival.

- Brooms – don’t be without it, especially if you have much disaster debris to clean up.

- Brushes – everything from hair to paint to scrub brushes, don’t be without them.

- Budget – always try to put extra items for survival into the family budget, it will be worth it.

- Bug out and Bug in – think this over a lot before SHTF.

- Bulk – large items can be cheaper, but some may be too large and can’t be used at once.

- Bundle – consolidate as much as you can to save space.

- Bungee cords – good for securing things down, especially when travelling.

- Bury – still one of the best ways to hide what you consider valuable.

- Busy – find a way to keep yourself from becoming bore to death after a disaster.

- Butcher and slaughter – an unpleasant task for many but a skill people should know.


- Calculations – know how much you have and how long it will last.

- Calm – the more relaxed you can remain the easier you can handle a true nightmare.

- Calorie intake – make sure you are getting enough food so you don’t waste away.

- Camouflage and concealment – one of the top aspects of survival, don’t be seen.

- Camping – most of what people experience camping can help them in survival.

- Candles – this is something that you just can’t have enough of.

- Candy – not much nutrition but can be uplifting and a good barter item.

- Canned goods – so much comes in cans, even butter and cheese.

- Canning – excellent economical way of storing food, especially from the garden.

- Can openers – the manual ones everyone should have lots of.

- Canteens – still an excellent way of carrying smaller amounts of water.

- Canvas – clothes that take a beating from the elements and keep on going.

- Capsules – empty gelatin capsules are good ways of swallowing things that tastes bad.

- Carbon monoxide detector – battery operated, wise choice to get one.

- Cash – even cash money will have some use from some merchant willing to take it.

- Caution – being careful is most of the time the most logical course of action.

- Caves – being aware of hazards in caves, still can be the safest place to shelter someone.

- Cereal – not usually a long term survival item, but still not bad for several months storage.

- Charcoal – wonderful item for cooking as it can be used under primitive conditions.

- Children – younger people need more care and understanding to get through bad times.

- Chocolate – has some health properties and is a good sweet to trade things for.

- Chopping equipment – don’t be without it.

- Cigarettes – this is something that someone that smokes must have and will barter to get.

- Circulation – make sure your body gets exercise; sitting around for days is not good.

- Civil defense – an art almost lost that communities need to begin practicing again, now.

- Clean – the cleaner you, others and the environment is the less problems you will have.

- Climate – know where you are or where you are going, understand the climate.

- Clothes lines and clothes pins – many uses with them.

- Clothing – don’t forget what you need to wear and keeping your clothes clean as possible.

- Comfort – don’t forget to include those items that can cheer you up during bad times.

- Communications- most likely going to be down, people need to prepare for this.

- Compost – if you plan on growing anything, learn how to compost what you have.

- Compass – even cheap ones, because this may be the only way to travel around.

- Condition yourself – try to acclimate yourself to wherever you are or going to.

- Contagious – there are going to be some very bad germs everywhere, ready yourself.

- Containers – using your imagination for your needs you will find you need many containers.

- Contraceptives – even if you have no use for them, many others will and will barter for it.

- Cookware and cookbooks – simply put, don’t be without them, especially sturdy cookware.

- Coolers – not just for keeping things cold, can also be used to keep things from freezing.

- Cooling – evaporative cooling and good air circulation can aid a lot in keeping people cool.

- Cooperation – everyone in a survival group needs to work together for the group.

- Cots – even fold up beds to get people off the ground when sleeping or resting.

- Cotton – very breathable material, cotton balls also have many uses.

- Couponing – just like money, the more you use the more of something else you can afford.

- Cutting equipment – like chopping devices, almost a certain survival need.


- Death and dying – something people must handle after a disaster, prepare for this.

- Decontamination – it may be necessary to prevent spread of germs and toxins.

- Defense – something that must be planned for by all in a survival group.

- Dehydrated food – drying foods with a dehydrator or using the sun, even purchasing it.

- Denial – some people will continue to deny “it” has happened, something to deal with.

- Dental care – toothpaste, dental floss, toothbrushes, and others, don’t be without it.

- Deodorizers – it makes a confined stay much easier when bad smells are not everywhere.

- Depression and despair – an issue everyone will face either with themselves or others.

- Detection – you should be able to know what is around you that can harm you.

- Diapers – any infant in the group needs these, still a very good barter item.

- Dinnerware – it is awful to have to eat everything without forks, knives, spoons.

- Disease – this is going to be rampant everywhere, take precautions for this.

- Dishes and glasses – plates, bowls, glasses and cups from eating and drinking.

- Disinfectant – to prevent disease and sickness, from hand sanitizers to sprays.

- Disguise – try to hide yourself by also your retreat the best you can from others.

- Diversity – don’t put all your eggs in one basket; have back up plans and places.

- Dogs – for guarding and watching along with companionship to consider.

- Downwind – try not to be downwind with any smells that alert others to what you have.

- Dust pans – mini shovels, sturdy enough to help collect debris and dirt and dust.


- Eye glasses – extra prescription glasses for those that need it, sunglasses for glare.

- Ear and eye protection – loud noises can deafen and loose particles can blind.

- Economical – being frugal has many advantages as everything lasts longer.

- Edible – find out in your area everything you can that is eatable and safe.

- Educate – continue to find out as much as you can about everything about survival.

- Eggs – can be raised yourself and/or found in nests around your area, good protein.

- Electricity – can be generated from wind, water, solar, or other means.

- Emergency kits – many on the market or you can build one yourself.

- EMP – electro-magnetic-pulse – guard against it, Faraday cages for one.

- Entertainment – especially for children, games, something to break up boredom.

- Entrances – everywhere something can get in is a potential danger spot, guard them.

- Envelopes – storage of records, papers, information, seeds, many others.

- Environment – know it well wherever you are.

- Epsom Salts – one of the best items for infections and cleansing.

- Escape – having plans to get out of situations is wise.

- Experience – the more someone can get the more natural problem solving comes.

- Extra – that little more that is added to what someone considers adequate enough.


- Faith – no matter what someone believes, this higher power can give strength to people.

- Fallout and bomb shelter – these structures are excellent for other disasters.

- Farming and harvest equipment – if you plan to grow crops you need these tools.

- Favorite foods – the more enjoyable some of the food you have, the stressful it will be.

- Fear and panic – it is likely to be intense with almost everyone, prepare now for it.

- Feminine needs – without these bacteria septic problems can develop with women.

- Fiber – constipation is something no one needs to go through on top of a disaster.

- Files – there is much that needs to be kept, like medical records, safe and accessible.

- Filters – from water to coffee to anything, filters are needed for much.

- Fire – know how to start one and maintain one.

- Firearms – the more the better.

- First aid kit – the more elaborate the kit is the more people you can treat with quality care.

- Fishing – knowing how to fish well will be a survival skill most can use for food.

- Fishing equipment – everything that goes with it, fishing line also “has many other uses.

- Flashlights – LED, it just seems like you can never have enough.

- Flour – almost everyone can use flour and a lot of it.

- Focus – one of the most important survival traits.

- Food – store it and then store more.

- Footwear- different terrains mean different shoes, boots, socks, and foot padding.

- Four food groups – the more balanced someone’s diet is the less health problems.

- Four wheel drive – if you can get it or know someone trustworthy with you, do it.

- Forage – like the animals that make their living off it, become an expert at this.

- Forest – consideration, most people have one nearby, good place to hide and find food.

- Free – a prepper philosophy, never to pass up an opportunity to get usable things for free.

- Freeze dried foods – can be expensive, but are lightweight and very convenient.

- Fruit – never forget to try to get some fruit in your diet, edible berries are in nature.

- Fuel, fuel storage – gas, propane, whatever powers machines are nice to have in reserve.

- Funnels – makes pouring liquids and even powders so much easier into containers.


- Garage sales – estate sales, auctions, flea markets, to get good survival items cheaper.

- Garbage and trash – find safe ways of disposing of it before it becomes a big problem.

- Garden tools – planning to grow food even on small scale, you will need these.

- Gathering – like foraging, there is plenty in the outdoors that can be collected.

- Glue and adhesives – people will need to stick many items back together.

- Germs – they are everywhere and will spread rapidly with everything dead and dying.

- Gloves – not just for warmth, also for hand protection from picking up sharp objects.

- Gold – even when it seems like no money is accepted, someone will accept gold.

- Grains – might be harder to obtain after a wide spread disaster, good item to store.

- Grain mill, manual – when you have grains you likely will have to mill them down for use.

- Grief and sorrow – expect to lose those around you; family, friends, neighbors.

- Guard – what some group may have to do 24 hours a day, animals can help in the duty.

- Gun – stun guns, air guns, hand guns, shot guns, can’t go wrong with more self defense.


- Hardware – everything from screws to nails, just look at your local hardware store.

- Hats – the head is the one part of the body that some people forget needs protecting.

- Hatchets, axes – if a person only gets one chopping tool, let it be an ax of some sort.

- Health – this is essential to keep someone going, much attention must be given to this.

- Heat – almost every place gets cool enough to be uncomfortable, take this into account.

- Healing – the more you have available, the quicker anyone is sick is going to heal.

- HEPA air filters – there will be a lot of air toxins, filtering that air is important if you can.

- Herbs – can help cure ailments and make food taste much better.

- Hide and hideout – many people will need to hide to stay alive for awhile.

- Hoist – makes lifting something heavy much easier.

- Holsters – a lot easier to carry fire arms or other self defense on your body.

- Honey – can be stored almost forever, many uses like treating bee and wasps stings.

- Hope – what having survival supplies gives people.

- Horticulture – learn as much about growing food as possible.

- Humidity – a very important factor with dehydration and staying warmer in the cold.

- Hydrogen peroxide – still one of the best first aid remedies there is.

- Hygiene- preventative health care, the cleaner your body is the less chance of illness.


- Ideas – always look for new ones to help your survival and preparing, they are out there.

- Illness – the faster someone deals with sickness the less drastic it will be, don’t let it go.

- Immune System – the stronger it is the stronger and more likely to fight off becoming sick.

- Improvise – be inventive and find solutions, this takes practice.

- Improvement – always the goal is to make your preparedness better, more survivable.

- Insect repellent – this is an item that everyone will be so thankful to have.

- Instant food products – much of this is sold in the supermarket, it is easy and lightweight.

- Insulation – learning how to use insulation on a person and a place is so important.

- Insurance – this is all that you have stored up, real tangible life insurance.

- Intuition – this is using your wits and that something that tells you it is wrong or right.

- Inverter – with 12 volt batteries you can power small devices that are plugged in.

- Iodized salt – this is a necessary nutrient that keeps a person alive, don’t be without it.

- Isolation – probably the best idea in most situations, less competition for what remains.

- Itch remedies – there are plenty of things that are going to make you itch a lot.


- Jack of all trades – may be no one to fix what breaks, become diverse at repair work.

- Jacks – a good jack that can lift your car quickly to fix it makes practical sense to have.

- Jackets and coats – all weather, especially water repellent, and heavy jackets for the cold.

- Jerry-rig it – people will need to come up with all sorts of contraptions and be good at it.

- Judgment – always use good judgment and think before you leap and make decisions.

- Juice – nutrition can be obtained through canned and bottled juices, good item to store.


- Kindling – know how to collect and what to look for to start a fire.

- Kitchenware – there are many utensils to make cooking a lot easier.

- Knives – including machetes, folding, for cutting foods, try to have all kinds.

- Knowledge – the more you know and can retain, the more likely you will survive.


- Ladders – most forget about this one, folding and compact ladders are a good choice.

- Lanterns – battery operated, gas or other fuel, even wind up, are nice sources of light.

- Laundry accessories – probably no washing machines, clothes should still be washed.

- Lawlessness – don’t depend on the police to protect you, it likely won’t happen.

- Liberty – your freedom depends on not selling yourself to someone else to eat.

- Lifeline – your supplies and what you can make, find, trade for, etc. is your lifeline.

- Light – don’t take for granted that there will always be light, well stock anti-dark supplies.

- Lighters, lighter fluid – without chemical help, wet conditions make it hard to start a fire.

- Liquid – not just water can hydrate a person, other liquids such as milk, juice, others can.

- Livestock – eventually survivors are going to be keeping animals for food, learn how to.

- Loss – people need to ready themselves for some loss of something dear to them.


- Magnesium fire starters – a survival item that gets a lot of use for minimum money spent.

- Magnifying glass – every survival kit needs at least one of these.

- Maps – probably forget about GPS, the old fashioned maps to know where you are going.

- Masks – gas, respiratory both (N-95 and N-100), your lungs and breathing need protection.

- Matches – paper and wood types, this is something that everyone must have.

- Measuring devices – weight, distance, size, and people still will have to know how big it is.

- Meat – even vegetarians might have to eat some form of meat, have meats available.

- Meat grinder – one tool that will be much appreciated to own.

- Mechanical know how – repair work on any machine still working is inevitable.

- Medical knowledge and medical equipment – all too important.

- Metallurgy – people that can weld and shape metal will be a lot better off.

- Meticulous – well organized preparation and supplies saves time and effort.

- Milk – in cans, powdered form, or dairy cows and other mammals such as goats.

- Minerals – proper nutrition and very survival depends on humans getting enough minerals.

- Mirrors – for signaling, but also for seeing where the eyes can’t such as behind you.

- Mobile – people may have to remain moving with hopefully your supplies going with you.

- Modify – as situations change your plans will also likely change, be ready for this.

- Money – whatever someone else will accept in payment, precious metals still rule.

- MRE’s or meals ready to eat – these keep for many years and are quite handy.

- Multi-tools – small enough to carry and so many uses all in a fold up device.

- Multivitamins – an excellent supplement to what you might not be getting in foods.


- Nasal spray – especially saline solution, one of the best ways of cleaning out the sinuses.

- Native – become as familiar as a native to any new area as possible.

- Nature – try to live off it as much as you can, as it is renewable.

- Navigation – learn how to use landmarks, the sun, and the stars to guide you around.

- Necessities – prioritize what you need the most; try to stock up on these items the most.

- Nest egg – what you have stored and can immediately be made available to you.

- Never – as in never should you stop stocking up when you can and have the room to.

- News – try to keep yourself as updated as you can, you don’t want to be caught off guard.

- Newspaper – good kindling and insulation, also good for wrapping things with.

- Nighttime – plan for the darkness and the fact that many predators stalk those at night.

- Night vision equipment – being able to see more at night gives anyone an advantage.

- Noise – try your best to keep any sound to the minimum and sound travels far and away.

- Noise makers – whistles, horns, anything with sharp piercing decibels are a defense.

- Nutrition – EVERY survival food supply should take this essential need in consideration.

- Nuts – high protein and excellent calorie counts, plus they keep usable for longer times.


- Observation – obtain as much as you can perceive; sight, sound, smell, feel, taste.

- Oil – all sorts for; cooking, heating, lamps, lubrication, and many other uses.

- Open-minded – often someone to move on anything has to be open to it first.

- Organization – uses color coding, numbers, anything to know what you have.

- Out of the way – the outback and away from high density populations are good options.

- Outdoors – something anyone may have to live and deal with, learn how to live it.

- Outline – any good survival plan has a well defined structured summary of what to do.

- Oxygen – many safe places lack air for all the people, these needs to be addressed.

- Oven – it can be a solar, brick, gas, wood, Dutch, an oven is an excellent survival tool.


- Padlocks – can at very least slow down a thief or intruder from getting in.

- Pantry – a full pantry is one of the most secure feelings.

- Paper – people will need to write down information, write down without computers.

- Paper towels – here is an item that filters, cleans up messes, so many uses.

- Parachute cord – paracord is extremely strong and thin enough for many, many uses.

- Paraffin – for making candles with and for sealing off foods with wax such as cheeses.

- Pasta – long shelf life and can be combined with lots of different foods.

- Pectin – for fruit preserves and other foods, also quite effective controlling diarrhea.

- Pencils and pens – what people will need when there are no modern electronics left.

- Pepper spray – non-lethal stopping power, especially for areas that prohibit firearms.

- Pest control – so necessary to control disease, every survival supply needs some.

- Pet preparation – for those with pets, they need to have food and needs stockpiled.

- Pharmaceuticals – the drug stores will be closed and ransacked.

- Physically fit – the more in shape your body is the more you can take and act.

- Pins – safety and regular straight pins for fastening objects.

- Plant life – know what you can eat and can’t and the medicinal benefits of plants.

- Platinum – still one of the precious metals that can be used to purchase what you need.

- Potassium iodine (iodide) – after radiation starts this must be used to protect the thyroid.

- Preserving – using pressure cookers, fermentation pots, pickling, drying, etc.

- Protection – absolutely essential, consider all sorts of weapons and defensive training.

- Psychology – people around someone are going to freak out and have to be helped.

- Pumps – to get liquids to where you need them to go, non-electric hand pumps especially.

- PVC piping – this to hide your valuables vertically in the ground, with watertight lids.


- Quagmire – try never to get bogged down anywhere that is no longer safe to be.

- Quality – you usually get what you paid for, the better quality usually the longer it lasts.

- Quantity – the more you have, the longer you will last before times become desperate.

- Quarantine – a sign put up with this on it can and does deter people from your place.

- Quick action – the more rapid you can move, the quicker you can establish safety.

- Quiet – as little noise as possible as sound will travel much distance.

- Quik clot hemostatic agent – this is something that can stop bleeding from deep wounds.


- Radiation knowledge – detection and knowing how to shield yourself from it.

- Radios – shortwave and conventional may be the ONLY way to get information and news.

- Raingear – everything to keep someone dry, excessive moisture leads to skin problems.

- Ration – every survival plan should have a way of dividing up food and supplies.

- Razors – in all forms, the sharper the better in many cases for cutting things.

- Recovery – the more prepared someone is the more likely they will be part of the recovery.

- Refrigeration – even without electricity you can keep things cold, ice house is one way.

- Reload – sporting goods still will not be around; your ammunition might be used quickly.

- Remedies – there are natural and manmade ones that can lives, read up of them.

- Replacement parts – spare parts are so valuable, especially when there are no stores.

- Replenish – always try to replace what supplies you use while you still can.

- Rescue – don’t expect to be saved for indefinite amounts of time, be well prepared.

- Rice – one food that can be bought and stored in large bulk.

- Rifle – every firearm stockpile needs one or more, high powered air rifles are good also.

- Risk management – know what endangers you and your groups and act accordingly.

- Rope – different strands and strengths for different projects.

- Rotate – can be difficult but it is so worth it to keep what should be fresh when you need it.


- Sacrifice – some of this is necessary to accumulate supplies to survive for tomorrow.

- Safety – always aim for the safest path for everyone in you survival group.

- Sales – always look for anything to alert you to when you can save money on survival.

- Salt – even bags of rock salt will be very high in demand where salt is not readily around.

- Salvage – there are many very usable parts in what others would consider junk.

- Sanitation – much effort MUST be contributed to this essential survival necessity.

- Scarce – what was once plentiful will be little or nothing in supply, stock up before this.

- Scarves – for tying down things, along with being used for neck and head covering.

- Scavenge and scrounge – learn to see what you can use for later just lying around.

- Science and math – problems are easier to solve with good science and math know how.

- Scissors – small to large, cutting is usually made easier with sharp scissors.

- Screens – keep out insects, sieve things, metal screen can be used to protect from EMP.

- Sealers – all sorts of uses but especially to plug leaks.

- Security – always look for ways to better secure yourself and what you have.

- Seeds – if you plan to grow anything, get good quality seeds and airtight protect them.

- Seriousness – never underestimate just how horrible a disaster can become.

- Sewing equipment – thread, needles, etc., and possibly even a manual sewing machine.

- Shade – direct sunlight can drive up the temperature a lot; think about the issue of shade.

- Shampoo – your hair needs to be cleaned occasionally when there is extra water to do so.

- Sharpeners – cutting equipment that is sharp cuts down on time and effort cutting things.

- Shields – armor, barriers, anything to safeguard against projectiles and other threats.

- Shoe laces – nice to have when shoes laces on shoes and boots wear out.

- Shooting range – become as proficient with your firearms as you can, practice a lot.

- Shovels – all sizes and very necessary, don’t forget show shovels are not just for snow.

- Shower – good way to stay clean, camping solar showers type bags or make it yourself.

- Signaling devices – flags, mirrors, noise, bright lights, anything to get attention.

- Silver – a precious metal that is going to be accepted by some merchant.

- Siphon – getting liquids to where you need it.

- Siren- air horns, anything to create a lot of sudden noise.

- Skin care – so many different irritants that can cause skin problems, how aliments stored.

- Sleep aids – natural and others can also help with depression.

- Soap – try to aim for anti-bacterial based soaps, learn how to make your own soap.

- Soil – know it well before attempting to grow crops.

- Solar power – from cookers to recharging to immediate power, something to consider.

- Soup – good way of adding what you have to make a meal, also canned soups.

- Space – know how much space you have to work with people and supplies.

- Sponges – use for cleaning and for sponge baths when there is little water.

- Storage – try to make it airtight and cool and dry as possible.

- Stoves – many are on the market, people can build their own out of scrape supplies.

- Stress – find out beforehand the best way to help people in your group how to handle it.

- Suddenness – so many disasters come on without warning and instantly, get ready for this.

- Sugar – this has to be one of the top items used and sought after by others.

- Sun – think about angles when planting, times between sunrise and sunset, etc.

- Surprise – few people deal with the unexpected unless they ready themselves for it.

- Survival stores – they are going to sell most of what you’re going to need, check them out.


- Tables – folding and sturdy enough to hold some weight and not wobbly.

- Tape – from duct to masking to scotch and others, don’t be without it.

- Tarpaulins (tarps) – can be used to collect water, cover things, and many other uses.

- Tenderizer – really tough meat needs this, medical uses also.

- Tents – try to go with canvas, other tents rip too easily.

- Thermal protection – hot pads, guards against flames, anything to prevent being burned.

- Thermometers – to tell someone’s temperature, to tell any temperature.

- Thrifty – getting good used survival supplies when you can at cheap prices.

- Ties – especially plastic ties that lock, ties help keep objects bundled together and in place.

- Tinder – know where to look for tinder and what to look for to help start a fire.

- Tires – having extra tires for your escape vehicle is a good idea and a tire inflating pump.

- Toilet – chemical toilet, composting toilet, anything to safely dispose of human waste.

- Toilet paper – the more you have the better, easily also a top barter item.

- Tomato related – tomato sauce and pieces is so versatile with cooking, have lots of it.

- Tools – everything you get will help someone fix something.

- Topography – know how to read a topographic map and know the terrain you in.

- Toughness – times are going to be really tough, try to become mentally durable.

- Towels – you may not be able to do much wash, having extra towels will help.

- Toxins – there will be plenty after most disasters and must be avoided if at all possible.

- Trailers – both livable and those that allow you to move your supplies.

- Transmitters – whatever you can use to get your message out; CB, ham, whatever.

- Traps – this can be for animals and for people also, much caution here must be taken.

- Trouble – expect this when you have something someone desperate needs.


- Ultimate goal – is should be to have everything you need or most of it, good goal to aim for.

- Underground – survival may depend on as much mass between you and the outside.

- Underwear – long johns can keep a person warm; keep underwear as clean as possible.

- Unique – each survival group and their planning and what they have.

- Unity – an important issue that people should get along well in any survival group.

- Universal – the more adaptable parts are the easier to fix devices it will be.

- Update – like on a computer, try to keep yourself updated about what is happening.

- Upwind – try to remain upwind from any potential threat to you.


- Valleys and depressions – is where cold air sinks, water collects rapidly, be careful here.

- Value – always look for the best possible value on anything.

- Valves – for controlling air, gas, and liquid flows, having spare ones is a very good idea.

- Vaporizer – this can save someone having breathing problems.

- Vault – a secure fireproof safe(s) for what cannot be replaced, like your firearms.

- Vegetables – in cans, growing them and finding them, a high priority for any survival.

- Vehicles – anything that can move you and your supplies.

- Venomous animals – no treatment at medical facilities, something to be very wary about.

- Vinegar – every survival plan needs vinegar, for treating people to cleaning to much more.

- Vitamins – people need to get enough vitamins or they develop life threatening illnesses.


- Wagons – can help move a lot, not just a child’s toy.

- Warmth – everyone needs to be kept warm enough, supplies should address this.

- Washboard – one of the items that everyone should have, it works.

- Waste – something that piles up and leads to vermin and disease, and must be dealt with.

- Watches and clocks – wind up are best, you will still need to know the time.

- Water – make sure you have access to a dependable constant source, no matter what.

- Watertight – the more moisture you can keep out the longer your supplies will remain.

- Weaknesses – attempt to find them and fix them as fast as you can.

- Weapons – on top of the obvious, use your imagination for some other effective ones.

- Weather – learn how to forecast it with a decent degree of accuracy, get a barometer.

- Weather proving – hold back as much of the outside elements as possible.

- Wells – one way of having a possible dependable source of water.

- Wheat – where you get your bread from.

- Wind break – something to think about to reduce the cold and severe weather.

- Windows – one of the most vulnerable part of any survival retreat, need to be secured.

- Wipes – so convenient and makes clean up so much more efficient.

- Wood – dried wood is still one of the best and most obtainable sources of fuel there is.

- Wringer – makes clothes easier to dry out after they have been washed.


- Xenophobia – survival is going to mean being leery of others that want what you have.


- Yardage and yarn – fabric to make clothes, blankets, coverings, and other needs.

- Year round planning – a survival plan should take into account all days of the year.

- Yeast – bread and other baking will sometimes need yeast to help it rise.


- Zeal or enthusiasm – people that know their prepping is all worth it, a good uplifting feeling.

- Zero hour – the time in which you hunker down and wait it out in safety of your place.

- Zipper and zip lock bags – a true necessity for keeping items dry, clean, and airtight.

- Zones – know exactly where your best individual survival chances will be at.

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1 posted on 06/02/2012 7:34:11 PM PDT by blam
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To: Kartographer
WORLD BANK BOSS: We're Headed For "Impending Catastrophe" -- "A Rerun Of Great Panic Of 2008"
2 posted on 06/02/2012 7:36:48 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam; Impy; Clintonfatigued; stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; ...

I’ll add a couple rolls of quarters to the list. Why? Cell phone towers go out and can stay out. With quarters, if you can still find a working payphone, you can use it.

Otherwise, they make great hand weights for punching or drop them into a bag or sock for an improvised striking weapon.

3 posted on 06/02/2012 7:54:14 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: blam

Bookmark for later.

4 posted on 06/02/2012 7:56:08 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: blam

I’m screwed

5 posted on 06/02/2012 7:56:30 PM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

“With quarters, if you can still find a working payphone, you can use it.”

Pay phones are getting harder to find.

6 posted on 06/02/2012 8:01:33 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama and Company lied, the American economy died)
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To: Lazamataz

out of quarters?

7 posted on 06/02/2012 8:02:54 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: blam
you will still need to know the time.

Man that can't look to the sun and determine the local time is an idiot. It's not SS7 bus, or GPS time, but it's close enough.

And the equinoxes and solstices are pretty easy to figure out, too.


8 posted on 06/02/2012 8:03:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Clintonfatigued
I know! When there was an ice storm here in Oct. and my cell phone provider was out*, I had to really look around to find a payphone.

(*I haven't had a land line in 10+ years)

9 posted on 06/02/2012 8:05:52 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: Lazamataz
Meh... show up here, and I'll put you to work and it will all be good.

You'll have to wear polyester....


10 posted on 06/02/2012 8:06:06 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Lazamataz

I’m right there, next in line.

11 posted on 06/02/2012 8:11:45 PM PDT by lbryce (OMG. What have we done to deserve the likes of the miscreant Zero?)
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To: JRandomFreeper

So, where’s here?

12 posted on 06/02/2012 8:14:10 PM PDT by lbryce (OMG. What have we done to deserve the likes of the miscreant Zero?)
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13 posted on 06/02/2012 8:14:51 PM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: Lazamataz

If you’d quit concentrating on the letter “H”’ you’ll make it.

14 posted on 06/02/2012 8:18:08 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: lbryce
59 delta.

Hopes that helps.

Want BBQ, bring meat.

You'll have to wear powder blue polyester, too.

Get enough of your type and I can run a chorus line for income.


15 posted on 06/02/2012 8:22:44 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: GOPsterinMA
"Otherwise, they make great hand weights for punching or drop them into a bag or sock for an improvised striking weapon. "

Try Nickels:

Why You Need to Own Nickels, Right Now

16 posted on 06/02/2012 8:24:26 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Good point!

I was thinking “two-fer” as one could use quarters for a weapon and for using a payphone. I don’t know if payphones will take nickels.

17 posted on 06/02/2012 8:26:30 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

If you can find a pay phone then you have to call someone who has a land phone other than a cell phone......

18 posted on 06/02/2012 8:26:48 PM PDT by classified
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To: Lazamataz
I’m screwed

Preppers don't realize it, but they're screwed too. Because if the sh*t really hits the fan, the haves will be under serious assault by waves of have-nots. Unless the prepper is in some secret isolated cabin somewhere, it won't be pretty for anyone in the good ol' USA.

Having said that, it still makes sense to be prepared. It's cheap insurance.

19 posted on 06/02/2012 8:31:07 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right
Because if the sh*t really hits the fan, the haves will be under serious assault by waves of have-nots.

When I used up all of my prep stuff after October 2008, I wasn't over-run. But that was a personal SHTF thing.

I'll take my chances.

Do you have historical evidence for your observation? If it's more than a personal SHTF kind of thing?


20 posted on 06/02/2012 8:37:19 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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21 posted on 06/02/2012 8:38:03 PM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: blam

Looking in the G section for God. Nope.

Looking in the J section for Jesus. Nope.

The list is missing the two ingredients necessary for the dark day.

22 posted on 06/02/2012 8:39:03 PM PDT by lurk
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To: blam

All this just to live one extra week until the government finds you, shoots you, and takes what you have to distribute to their loyalist thugs? :/

23 posted on 06/02/2012 8:39:54 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Lazamataz

Well, at least thats something. lol

24 posted on 06/02/2012 8:42:21 PM PDT by depenzz (There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by sword. The other is by debt. John Adam)
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To: blam

I would like to fill out the category of “Binoculars”.

Get the best quality you can afford. The Nikon Superior E or several other of their top of the line are maybe the best in the world. You will not go wrong with Zeiss, Swarovski, Leupold, Docter etc.

There are middle range binoculars which are totally useful. The Swift Audubon typically sells in the $300-470 range and can compare to the high end ones.

I have a Russian Military 7X30 which I got before prices went up. It comes with a range finding grid and individual adjustable eyepieces. It also has a slight yellowish tint which was put there on purpose.

If all you want is maximum optical sharpness these are the way to go especially since they still can be had for under $300 and their optics can stand up to the $3000 Swarovski tho I had much rather have the Swarovski.

A good size is 7-8 power with a 40-42.5-45mm objective. A lot of militaries have used little 6x30. I have a 6x30 made by Nippon Kogaku (Nikon) before 1950. They are among the best I have ever owned.

One of the best bargains I have seen in some time is the Simmons 7x42 porro prism being sold at CDNN for, I think $39.99. These are nearly as compact as roof prism because the prisms are over the top instead of to the side. Their optical quality is in the same range as most $100-200 ones by the major manufacturers.

One company you will never go wrong with is Nikon. Even their cheapest action series are decent.

Water resistant is a good thing to have but not absolutely necessary.

Prisms should be BaK-4 and roof prisms should have phase coated prisms.

25 posted on 06/02/2012 8:42:59 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Any historical observations you want to share to support that?


26 posted on 06/02/2012 8:43:37 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Do you have historical evidence for your observation?

Nope. I'm just thinkin' out loud. Let's say that - for whatever reason - the USA's food distribution network breaks down for a month or so. I'm guessing that folks with hungry, starving children aren't going to just sit at home and do nothing. They're going to go a'raiding. It would be like the Watts riots, times 100.

Will you at the front door with a .357 and Uncle Joe at the back door with a shotgun scare them off, for good? I don't think so. Starving people, especially when they are also armed, are a formidable foe.

That's why I say preppers are screwed too.

But you are correct when you said you'll take your chances. The more preparation a person makes, the better, even if the long-term odds are still poor.

27 posted on 06/02/2012 8:50:36 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: yarddog
"One company you will never go wrong with is Nikon. Even their cheapest action series are decent."

I will agree with that. I used multimillion dollar Nikon steppers/scanners manufacturing IC's for many years.

28 posted on 06/02/2012 9:00:21 PM PDT by blam
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To: Leaning Right
It would be like the Watts riots, times 100.

Thanks for the historical reference.

I'm not in a city center known for crime. I expect that they will wipe themselves out before they get too far.

And for that expectation.... I'll point to barbarians raiding Rome. The barbs were looking for food, they found some gold and took it. Some folks died.

But the take-away is that Romans were starving when the barbs hit the gates.

That's history.


29 posted on 06/02/2012 9:05:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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30 posted on 06/02/2012 9:06:02 PM PDT by DWar ("The ultimate destination of Political Correctness is totalitarianism.")
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To: Leaning Right
Oh... the other things... the barbs negotiated beforehand.

And romans swapped barb kids for dog meat.

And it took a long slow painful process for it to devolve to the empty treasury in Rome to finally get sacked.

History doesn't repeat... but it rhymes.


31 posted on 06/02/2012 9:11:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Leaning Right

Choootem Lizabith Chooootem

32 posted on 06/02/2012 9:15:52 PM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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33 posted on 06/02/2012 9:23:53 PM PDT by Baum Threat
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34 posted on 06/02/2012 9:25:01 PM PDT by Floyd Rivers
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To: eartick
To heck with Bad, Bad Leroy... nobody messes with Fred's junk. ;)


35 posted on 06/02/2012 9:57:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Prepper PING!!!

36 posted on 06/02/2012 10:01:01 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: lurk

I hope I am wrong and somehow the world’s economy does not crash and burns, but face it the piper will have to be paid! We might not fall as far or as hard as many countries, but I believe a fall of some kind is inevitable.

You either prepare and stand on your own beholden to no one or you become dependent on others to provide your basic needs and become thier‘serf’. Me I don’t want to be beholden to anyone for providing what is needed for me and mine. I certainly don’t want to have to kiss some ‘gubberment’ third class bureaucratic to try and coax some help from them, I don’t want some ‘jack booted’ thug herding me in line and telling me where to stand, sit, eat or sleep. And last but not least I don’t want to be shut up in with a bunch of ‘zombies’ and have to worry about not only trying to get basic necessities but having to fight to keep what I manage to get.

Now anyone thinking that prepping is foolish ask you what’s easier telling your children and loved ones why you prepared or explaining to them why you didn’t?

But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever. 1 Timothy 5:8

But then someone has to stand on the bridge waiting for FEMA to bring them a bottle of water, an MRE and a warm blanket so as to provide the Network Anchors their background ‘Money Shot’. I wonder how that will workout for them?

Face it we’ve kicked the financial can so far down the road that we are running out of road and the can which was once the size of a soda can is now the size of an oil drum (Try kicking that!)

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:


For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

Lastly this for the doubters and the scoffers.

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.

Underestimation can be fatal.”

By the way you will find both God and Jesus mentioned in my Manual.

37 posted on 06/02/2012 10:05:12 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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Honeybees. I can offer some help, but time us getting short.

For those who presently have colonies, if they have not re-queened in the past year or so, now could be a good time.

I'm presently employed with a queen producer. We have New World Carniolan (NWC) queens with freshly updated Sue Cobey breeder queens. Our address is technically Vacaville, CA, although we are miles and miles North of there, actually being closer to Winters, CA.

"Queen season" will be coming to an end soon, with the the mating nucs slated to be coming out of the mating yards soon. We re-celled a few hundred yesterday, but I'm not sure how many more we will continue.

We work these bees in short sleeves and without a veil, for the most part. The main "queen crew" gals work in shorts and sometimes bikini tops. Much of the field crew goes shirtless when they can get away with it, but dealing with the queenless cell builder colonies, generally aint' the time, hehheh...

These bees are otherwise typically as gentle as can be, when queen-right, and treated right, just a little smoke, no quick moves, no unnecessary jostling of the hive, work in the heat of the day, when the forager bees are on the wing, etc. I stick my bare hand right in 'em quite often, and most days rarely get stung. Google "Sue Cobey" and "NWC" for better info on typical Carniolian honeybee characteristics.

I'm under the impression the apiary I'm employed with has had a long-standing relationship with her, and has much used/been involved with her own particular NWC genetics, stretching back to the early 1980's when she herself first sold breeder queens, doing business as "Vacaville Apiaries", though the specifics of the history of the relationship I've not been privy to. I was informed that at least some of our present breeder queens came from her (ALL of our bees are Carniolan, save for some of the cell builders), and we just got a few more, too, (saw a few caged queens introduced with my own eyes) although those last ones won't be grafted from until next year(?) unless there be some intent to graft one last go-round from those particular queens, with the idea of carrying some colonies from that batch over for early next spring.

Any interested please feel free to inquire. $18.50 per queen, shipping costs (US Mail) not included, has been the commercial rate, for bulk buyers ordering dozens if not a few hundred at a time.

I'm not in charge of the pricing, or the shipping, but can answer some questions, and/or provide contact details to reach the apiary's owner directly. He does all the mailing personally himself, I think.

We re-queen with what we produce ourselves (of course) with our own colonies, most of which are dedicated to pollination, although some 400 or so went to North Dakota a few weeks ago for honey production. I've seen mated queens be shipped out to other commercial beeks by the hundred lot.

Package bees *might* be available. We've been splitting, and might not desire or need to smoke up some nurse bees ---BUT --- I might be able to talk them into it. One yard comes to mind ... they are starting to put away some stores. We've been supering (with brood comb) just about everything, here of late, including splits made a month ago now.

If one is in Northern climes, or is located where there may be some good nectar flows still anticipated (or just starting, and can be expected to last a couple of months) than one might even be able to even start a colony from scratch, this late in the year. Existing comb, mo' better.

The longer such is delayed, the dicier the proposition --- yet if one had on hand a few good brood combs in which a mated queen could start laying right away, then provided enough nectar and pollen be available, the prospects for building up enough to survive a winter, then come out strong next spring is highly possible, even this late in the spring.

Generally speaking, one needs be established by June 15, yet there can be exceptions. I know of areas in California that have strong Fall-thru-late Fall Eucalyptus flows.

If I could put a new package colony under or around any trees I desired --- not being hindered either by city ordinances, or not allowed access to the right locations ---- I'm sure I could start a package or a late split, as late as Sept 15, possibly Oct.15, and still make it work. Think San Diego, to San Luis Obispo County.

In a sense, all beekeeping is "local".

38 posted on 06/02/2012 10:12:55 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: lurk
Looking in the G section for God. Nope. / Looking in the J section for Jesus. Nope. / The list is missing the two ingredients necessary for the dark day.

Exactly. Having just read the book of Acts this week, it's obvious Paul—experiencing one life-threatening hardship after another—had few of the items on this list. But he had GOD!!! Yeah!

39 posted on 06/02/2012 10:36:52 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: blam

Mark for later. Needs further study, possibly printing of the list.

40 posted on 06/03/2012 12:09:22 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Mitt Romney is the supreme exemplification of the word SMARMY.)
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To: blam


41 posted on 06/03/2012 12:10:55 AM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: blam


42 posted on 06/03/2012 12:36:52 AM PDT by trailboss800
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To: trailboss800

bump for later

43 posted on 06/03/2012 1:48:34 AM PDT by CIBvet (So how's all this FAST TRACKED - FREE TRADE workin' out for ya so far, Comrade Job-Seekers ?)
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To: avenir; lurk

Its under F for faith.

44 posted on 06/03/2012 3:46:06 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kartographer

Over here.

45 posted on 06/03/2012 5:02:20 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All liberals & most demoncraps think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: blam

Who even has a true land line these days?
The cable TV and ISP people have seen to it that their customers all have VOIP.
I don’t know of anyone with a real land line.

46 posted on 06/03/2012 5:28:46 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End the racist, anti-capitalist Obama War On Freedom.)
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To: Lazamataz am I

47 posted on 06/03/2012 5:59:06 AM PDT by representativerepublic (...loose lips, sink ships)
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To: blam; Kartographer

This is a VERY GOOD list, blam.

I’m bumping this, and printing it out.

Florida will be very prone to disasters this year. The RNC Convention in Tampa this August promises civil disorder (actually, the Left has promised it). Hurricane season is upon us. And who knows what the Zimmerman Trial will bring?

My brand-new fiance and I have only just started our lists and our bargain-hunting. It’s going to be a long summer.

48 posted on 06/03/2012 6:06:53 AM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Old Sarge
"My brand-new fiance and I have only just started our lists and our bargain-hunting. It’s going to be a long summer."

Happy hunting.

I've found many prepper bargains at yard sales.

49 posted on 06/03/2012 6:38:37 AM PDT by blam
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To: lurk
"Looking in the G section for God. Nope. "

A Bear Market In God

50 posted on 06/03/2012 7:12:54 AM PDT by blam
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