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Motorists detained as police search for robbery suspect(All Adults Handcuffed In Every Car)
FOX 31 ^ | June 2, 2012

Posted on 06/03/2012 3:23:17 AM PDT by AmonAmarth

AURORA, Colo. – Police have a “person of interest” in custody in connection with the robbery of the Wells Fargo back at 15301 E. Hampden Avenue Saturday afternoon.

Immediately following the robbery, police closed the intersection of Iliff and Buckley after reports the suspect might have taken hostages.

According to our crew on the scene, police stopped and searched nearly two dozen cars. The adult occupants of the vehicles were handcuffed during the investigation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
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To: brent13a
“...but I feel compelled to defend my brothers and sisters even if it's with facetious sarcasm.”

This is the problem, your brothers and sisters are the general public.

You have separated yourself from the general public and act all aggrieved upon.

Your self separation from the public, the mere civilians, the by your own words – not your brothers and sisters, is the problem.

101 posted on 06/03/2012 7:59:58 AM PDT by Mark was here (The dog he ate was a composite ... wasn't one dog, was an amalgam of many breeds, like a casserole.)
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To: AmonAmarth; Scoutmaster

Everyone of those folks need to hire an attorney and sue the city. This is an outrage. Are you with me Scoutmaster?


102 posted on 06/03/2012 8:24:23 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: brent13a

“You see all cops as criminals, I see all patriots as untrustworthy anarchists who would like to shoot me if I dare try to investigate a crime.”

Investigate a crime all you want, but don’t think you have totalitarian control over the poeple to do so. It is disturbing for you to say that you believe that you should have totalitarian control just because you wear a badge.


103 posted on 06/03/2012 8:25:24 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: brent13a

Sounds as if you are a leo. But it also sounds as if you don’t have the temperment or the stones for the job. If you are a leo then you must have missed the day in leo school when they went over the Constitution of these United States of America.


104 posted on 06/03/2012 8:25:54 AM PDT by Big Mack (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat VEGETABLES!)
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To: brent13a

“I mean, as opposed to simply doing nothing what should have been done?”

I hope you are not a cop if you are that stupid as to not know the answer to that question.


105 posted on 06/03/2012 8:27:31 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: Travis McGee

The guy is a mental midget. He believes he has the right to do as he pleases as long as it is in the name of “law enforcement”.


106 posted on 06/03/2012 8:28:44 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: Truth29
So mass preventive detentions are now legal? This will cause its own problems. If you resist, are you resisting arrest, failing to follow police orders, what?

Legal, and the preferred technique for dealing with serfs.

No problem...

107 posted on 06/03/2012 8:34:39 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1228 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
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To: Lady Lucky
They are just following orders.

Vee ver yust followink ohders.

Yeah, that defense works every time.

108 posted on 06/03/2012 8:38:10 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1228 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
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To: Travis McGee
Remember this story? Seems about the same level of stupidity. January 2005.

"RURO, Mass., Jan. 7 - In an unusual last-ditch move to find clues to the three-year-old killing of a freelance fashion writer, police investigators are trying to get DNA samples from every man in this Cape Cod hamlet, all 790 or so, or as many as will agree."

109 posted on 06/03/2012 8:39:00 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: brent13a

Was that sarcasm? It’s so hard to tell these days...


110 posted on 06/03/2012 8:40:08 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1228 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
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To: null and void

You may come upon something helpful here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2890926/posts?page=37#37


111 posted on 06/03/2012 8:43:19 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (God-issued, not govt-issued.)
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To: brent13a
Everyone should just be expected to go tell the police on themselves as opposed to the police attempting to solve the crime.

You seem a little weak on 5th amendment comprehension.

112 posted on 06/03/2012 8:43:19 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1228 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
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To: Lady Lucky
Oh, cut the cops a break! They are just following orders.

That's what the nazi war criminals said also

113 posted on 06/03/2012 8:45:18 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: CodeToad

I wonder how many LEOs share his twisted views, and consider “so-called patriots” to be as dangerous as criminals to his “brothers and sisters” in LE.

Clearly, he puts himself and other LEOs above us mere peasants, and as far as his oath to defend the Constitution....he seems to have forgotten that entirely.


114 posted on 06/03/2012 8:50:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: brent13a
Everyone should just be expected to go tell the police on themselves as opposed to the police attempting to solve the crime.

Apparently part of that is in place already. I'm old enough to remember when the police would investigate a burglary. These days they won't even file a report of one.

Throw us a sop, wouldja? At least pretend you care.

115 posted on 06/03/2012 8:51:48 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1228 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
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To: brent13a

If you can’t do your job within the confines of the constitution, you should quit. You’re sarcastic remarks show a clear willingness to trample on the rights and liberties of any citizen you come in contact with because, gee, what else could I do to serve and protect.


116 posted on 06/03/2012 8:51:54 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Travis McGee

Typical idiot anymore, isn’t it? “Don’t blame me I am just trying to {insert lame excuse here}”.

Whenever I hear the phrase, “just trying to”, I know I am talking to an adult with the mind of a small child.

He is the type of pinhead that will be shooting at us and feeling completely justified in doing so but will be completely confused when we shoot back.


117 posted on 06/03/2012 8:54:09 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: mvpel

Surpised they didn’t put all schools within a 500 mile radius on “lockdown”

Because criminals ALWAYS run to the schools when they are in trouble.


118 posted on 06/03/2012 8:56:22 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Spot on, well said.


119 posted on 06/03/2012 9:00:53 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: brent13a
The only reason the government is so big and bloated and despotic is because we the people have let them become so.

Can't argue with that.

120 posted on 06/03/2012 9:00:53 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: paul51

Post 37. What’s the matter with everyone this morning?


121 posted on 06/03/2012 9:02:46 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (God-issued, not govt-issued.)
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To: CodeToad
He is the type of pinhead that will be shooting at us and feeling completely justified in doing so but will be completely confused when we shoot back.

He is in the majority, if the Milgram experiment is anywhere close to reality.

122 posted on 06/03/2012 9:09:26 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (God-issued, not govt-issued.)
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To: brent13a
but I feel compelled to defend my brothers and sisters

This is why you should not be in law enforcement. Your loyalty and sense of public duty is misplaced from the public to the pack.

Does this not violate your police oath?

I, for one, am tired of LEO using the "danger" of their job to excuse violating the rights of citizens. Law enforcement is not even in the top ten dangerous occupations.

123 posted on 06/03/2012 9:09:53 AM PDT by Valpal1
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To: AmonAmarth

It’s the new American way...everybody is a suspect,everybody is guilty,everybody is a criminal.


124 posted on 06/03/2012 9:12:17 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (No matter who you elect,the government eventually gets in.)
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To: AmonAmarth

Speaking of experiments, I recommend that everyone reading this thread should mention the Aurora motorist search to the nearest person under 30. Ask the young person if what the cops did was proper or not, and ask why. You may be surprised.


125 posted on 06/03/2012 9:13:06 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (God-issued, not govt-issued.)
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To: jrg
Of all the cops I’ve known and come in contact with (some in my own family), NONE have been very bright. At least not bright enought to a actually understand the bill of rights. There’s a lot of multi-syllable words in there and no pictures

The ones I know here in San Jose all seem to be of above average IQ, and have pretty well developed senses of humor.

Maybe that's why San Jose is one of the safest large cities in America?

126 posted on 06/03/2012 9:13:27 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1228 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
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To: mvpel
"So in response to a suspect taking hostages, the police took hostages too? Great, just great."

So now...completely innocent people are made helpless to defend themselves.

Wonderful.

127 posted on 06/03/2012 9:17:17 AM PDT by blam
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To: Travis McGee

Excellent post.


128 posted on 06/03/2012 9:20:48 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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marked


129 posted on 06/03/2012 9:26:27 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Lady Lucky

Unfortunately, people feel compelled to perform since they find the negative consequences less appealing than following orders against their personal morals and ethics. This is how wars are begun: When those giving the orders believe they have something to gain and have enough authority to compel others to do their dirty work. Of course, it is up to the actual righteous to thwart those efforts by fighting back. This is where modern society has failed to teach the lessons of war. Unlike history, when a war is won we no longer burn the cities, salt the fields, execute the men, rape the women and enslave the children, so people feel a war is not too bad since if they lose they simply go on with their lives. Hence, those in authority are able to convince others not to resist them as resistance will be painful but war isn’t so bad. Punishment has a purpose.


130 posted on 06/03/2012 9:28:24 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: AmonAmarth; All

FROM THE COMMENTS SECTION AT THE LINK:

Yesterday, my wife and I were at Unique Thrift Store at Iliff and Buckley shopping. During that time, the Aurora Police responded to an apparent robbery of a bank. In the process of that response, the police stopped multiple vehicles by force, forcibly evicted individuals from their vehicles at gun point, handcuffed individuals, traumatized children and adults alike, all of whom, apart from one suspect, were innocent. In all this, there was NO probable cause, NO search warrant, etc. This whole ordeal was a blatant violation of the constitutional rights of every US citizen; it was illegal harassment, search and seizure, and temporary arrest on a mass scale. Is this now a police state in which we are living? What happened to our constitutional republic? Do those in charge at the Aurora Police Department believe they can act as vigilantes outside our republic’s constitutional law and legal framework? Using the excuse that they “felt they had no other choice” but to conduct such an operation if they were to catch the “bad guy” is NO EXCUSE AT ALL. In fact, to carry out the law (arrest the robber), the police themselves chose, quite intentionally it seems, to violate several laws, upon which this entire country is founded, themselves! That is outrageous, and the Aurora Police department should be up in arms over it! Do you folks want this country to be a police state, or do you prefer to see it remain the great country it has been since its founding? You are on the former course with such blatantly illegal and unconstitutional behavior on the part of your officers. This is a sad day for Aurora, Colorado, and for the United States when police officers feel they are above the law to carry out the law! I for one expect to see the Aurora Police Department sued left and right for violating the constitutional and other legal rights of those whom its officers illegally and wrongfully traumatized yesterday. It is my hope that those officers responsible for this fiasco face serious penalties and are held accountable to the public and the citizens of this state of Colorado and our United States over these events. It matters not to me, as a citizen, that the Aurora Police Department caught a suspect when the price of doing so was the mass violation of the law on the part of the officers involved. This is truly an example of where the end does NOT justify the means! I would gladly provide my contact information, and speak directly with those responsible for this mess, were it not for my sadly legitimate concern that there would be more vigilante action coming from the Aurora Police Department or its vigilante officers over my doing so! In fact, by conducting itself in this way, the Aurora Police Department has harmed its own reputation with the public in Aurora and beyond in a very severe manner that will have repercussions for many years to come; yes, it IS that egregious. As a concerned citizen and committed Christian who cares, I pray that those in charge at the Aurora Police Department legally and constitutionally address this “wickedness” and vigilantism in the ranks and clean house.


131 posted on 06/03/2012 9:29:35 AM PDT by AmonAmarth (Wherever you go...There you are)
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To: AmonAmarth

“Pets being killed on the spot for no reason”? What’s that all about? They haven’t come after my pet yet. But then i don’t have a worthless POS pit bull either.


132 posted on 06/03/2012 9:38:33 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

“But then i don’t have a worthless POS pit bull either.”

So, explain why the other 99% of dogs shot were not Pitbulls.


133 posted on 06/03/2012 9:40:23 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: plain talk

Apparently your not well read, Googl, dogs shot by police and see what you come up with, your ignorance is very unbecoming of a Freeper


134 posted on 06/03/2012 9:44:38 AM PDT by AmonAmarth (Wherever you go...There you are)
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To: rawcatslyentist
It's for the cheeruns

You mean the kyeeds? LOL!

135 posted on 06/03/2012 9:44:58 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: The Working Man

Amen!


136 posted on 06/03/2012 9:51:47 AM PDT by sport
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To: AmonAmarth

Careful calling someone else ignorant on the internet, there’s this vaguely karmic thing going ‘round that ends up making you look ignorant, too.


137 posted on 06/03/2012 9:52:09 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: AmonAmarth

Video here, showing people cuffed on ground (and no bystanders emitting a peep of protest).

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/06/02/aurora-police-detain-person-of-interest-in-bank-robbery/


138 posted on 06/03/2012 9:52:49 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (God-issued, not govt-issued.)
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To: AmonAmarth

You can certainly argue with this, but I think the operative item was: “Immediately following the robbery, police closed the intersection of Iliff and Buckley after reports the suspect might have taken hostages.”

If the officers were polite, and explained why they were handcuffing all the adults, then I think they at least had a good excuse for what they were doing. They likely didn’t have enough officers to watch and question all the cars’ occupants at once, and if they didn’t do something like this, they risked having a hostage killed.

Ordinarily, I would be mad as hell if this happened to me. But I would put up with it if it was explained that innocent hostages might otherwise die before they had a chance to search the cars and question everyone.


139 posted on 06/03/2012 9:53:04 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: AmonAmarth

That guy needs to file a complaint with the sheriff against the Aurora PD and the individual officers.


140 posted on 06/03/2012 9:55:56 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I didnt mean he was totally ignorant, I meant ignorant on the subject I was commenting on. But point taken.


141 posted on 06/03/2012 9:58:53 AM PDT by AmonAmarth (Wherever you go...There you are)
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To: AmonAmarth

Incredible. I cannot believe these folks just stand there, some with smiles on their faces, while this took place.


142 posted on 06/03/2012 9:59:06 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: AmonAmarth

Re the comment from person on scene:
He’s outraged and too chickensh to do anything about it, even write a letter and sign it.
I rest my case.


143 posted on 06/03/2012 9:59:17 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (God-issued, not govt-issued.)
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To: AmonAmarth
According to our crew on the scene, police stopped and searched nearly two dozen cars. The adult occupants of the vehicles were handcuffed during the investigation.

And if they refused to consent to a search? Did the cops do it anyway? Has the constitution now been replaced by the Walls Fargo stock certificate? Do these fascist "cops" realize that Wells Fargo has insurance, and will survive if the money isn't found, but that our Bill of Rights IS our insurance against tyranny? Any officer who did this should be fired.

144 posted on 06/03/2012 9:59:17 AM PDT by montag813
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To: CodeToad
"but will be completely confused when we shoot back."

Can you say,"intersecting fields of fire"?

I knew you could !

145 posted on 06/03/2012 10:01:19 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: brent13a
Yer a remarkably see-through troll.

I may even agree with your point of view; however, seems like you are here to hit hornets nests.

146 posted on 06/03/2012 10:05:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: Jane Long
Incredible. I cannot believe these folks just stand there, some with smiles on their faces, while this took place.

Believe it. They are the 21st c Americans. Stupid, cowardly and utterly obedient.

147 posted on 06/03/2012 10:06:10 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (God-issued, not govt-issued.)
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To: brent13a
brent13a,,, must be your age, man you've got mental problems ,

If you're leo officer ,how did you ever get pass the mental exam ?

some of your pass post

GDP, Real GDP, and Shadowstats "Theater of the Absurd" GDP

Friday, June 01, 2012 8:15:39 PM · 11 of 13 brent13a to Lurker; SwankyC; sam_paine; pointsal

Yep thats what I obviously meant: looting. That’s me, a murdering privateer.

It wasn’t that I referencing the fact that if the ‘worst’ happens the things that will be worth more than gold will be: food, clean water, ammunition.

Who cares about gold when your family is starving or dying from dysentery because theres no clean water?

Who cares about gold if you have no guns or ammunition to protect it or maybe your family?

Nope, that’s me, I’m just waiting for the end times so I can go about serial killing everybody.....yep that would be me.

Beck is an a$$hat because for every minuscule instance that he utters something decent or valid he wildly invalidates it by running off at the mouth with blithering stupidity. Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies

GDP, Real GDP, and Shadowstats "Theater of the Absurd" GDP Friday, June 01, 2012 5:20:48 PM · 2 of 13 brent13a to Kaslin

I prefer to invest in lead, as in ammo. Then I can take your gold if I need it.

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148 posted on 06/03/2012 10:10:03 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: CodeToad

It’s especially bad when the cops are hopping into folks backyards to get a peak into a neighbor’s backyard, and they blow away the labs and golden’s in the totally uninvolved person’s own yard. “I felt threatened” (by a lab or a golden retriever) is no damn excuse at all, when the cop is on private property on a fishing expedition. Yet they do it, and they get away with it.

Here in NE Florida, the Jax PD has a new standard for shooting “suspects.” The cop just has to say, “I ordered him to show his hands, and he didn’t.”

The only witness, being dead, can’t contradict the cop’s story. So basically, a JPD cop can shoot a suspect, kill him, and then just claim the dead suspect “refused to show his hands.”

That is a hop-skip-jump from extrajudicial execution.


149 posted on 06/03/2012 10:15:41 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: brent13a
Exactly how should the possible hostage situation been handled instead of what was done. What procedures and steps should have been taken to immediately solve the situation as opposed to what they did? What should the exact law enforcement/police process have been in that situation?

Glad to see the boot lickers are out. Hopefully you'll volunteer to be first on the rail car......the rest of us have guns and will resist tyranny.

You know where US personnel conduct mass detentions, aka block parties? Iraq and Afghanistan.....those would be war zones. I don't think our local tyrants are quite ready for this to become a war zone, so they damn well better stop acting like it.

150 posted on 06/03/2012 10:16:06 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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