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Rich families could sponsor poor ones, says Pope
Yahoo News - Canada ^ | 2 June 2012

Posted on 06/03/2012 6:01:24 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Families from rich countries could sponsor families from poor ones, Pope Benedict XVI suggested Saturday at a gathering of around 350,000 people at a park just north of Milan.

The pope was speaking at the latest event in a three-day visit to Milan, part of the Church-sponsored World Meeting of Families, a relaxed and festive setting that has been a welcome distraction from recent crises at the Vatican. Speaking without notes before an enthusiastic crowd at the Bresso park, the pope proposed a new twist to the system under which cities in different countries "twin" with each other.

His suggestion that families from rich countries could act as sponsors for families from poorer ones drew enthusiastic applause from his audience. One could have "a family in France, in Germany in Italy, talking responibility for helping" another family in need, said the pope.

(Excerpt) Read more at ca.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: poorfamilies; pope; richfamilies; socialism; subsidiarity
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To: ex91B10

The Church could become like a dictatorship, then? They could have their own jails and inquisitors or so? Kind of like do away with free will, something like that?

Neat


51 posted on 06/03/2012 10:10:50 AM PDT by stanne
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To: ex91B10

Oh, I see. The Church should have no public voice because some people who claim to be Catholic act completely outside of the teaching of the Church.

The Church should cater to them?

Not getting any logic here.


52 posted on 06/03/2012 10:16:21 AM PDT by stanne
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To: saradippity

There are uninformed posters here at FreeRepublic and you are one of them. Let me quote you from the Catholic Encyclopedia regarding Pope Innocent III “One of the greatest popes of the Middle Ages” ... “He called upon France to raise an army for the suppression of the Albigenses.” Get it why someone who was reasonably informed might have problems with the Catholic Church based on its historical actions? The pope called on the government to make war on people who weren’t Christians the way the Pope defined Christianity. That is a fact and your own histories agree that it is so, and your histories call such men “great.” I think otherwise, and I don’t do so from a position of ignorance. You won’t be convinced by anything I say, so I’m not going to get in a long thread to show you your errors. It’s enough to say I agree with .45.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10285c.htm


53 posted on 06/03/2012 10:25:10 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: stanne; Gaffer
"Whatever."

Great comeback!

54 posted on 06/03/2012 10:45:56 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Thanks. It’s a little something I picked up in ninth grade.


55 posted on 06/03/2012 10:52:29 AM PDT by stanne
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To: NoGrayZone

Thanks. It’s a little something I picked up in ninth grade.


56 posted on 06/03/2012 10:52:43 AM PDT by stanne
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“Household staff”.


57 posted on 06/03/2012 11:01:21 AM PDT by discostu (Listen, do you smell something?)
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To: stanne

Are you still in the 9th grade?


58 posted on 06/03/2012 11:01:47 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Gaffer

Toying with the third rail can sometimes be dangerous. :^}


59 posted on 06/03/2012 11:03:10 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO, same for RINOs)
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To: NoGrayZone

Yes, well, I was having a ninth grade moment while reading Gaffer’s blither.


60 posted on 06/03/2012 11:14:56 AM PDT by stanne
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

You could confiscate ALL the income of EVERY person in the US, and it would still not be enough to fix the Third World.


61 posted on 06/03/2012 11:23:38 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: .45 Long Colt; Gaffer

Looks like the anti-Catholic talking-points memo got around.


62 posted on 06/03/2012 11:25:12 AM PDT by newzjunkey (I advocate separation of school and sport)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Most rich families I know are quite generous to others that are out of pocket. I live in a smaller town where the poor and the rich pretty much are next door neighbors.
That being said, I know a lot of people that are rich but have little money, and I know of people who have a lot of money and are quite poor.


63 posted on 06/03/2012 11:26:04 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: newzjunkey

It is really a crying shame that so many of you [enter your religion here] defenders think that anyone who utters anything questionable to your sensibilities whatsoever in the slightest sense think that they are members of some cabal aching to dethrone you.

Talking Points? What the hell are your talking about, fella? Last time I looked this thread showed up in News/Activism, it is neither news, nor is it activism, unless you consider ranging outside of the Religion Forum to defend the ‘faith’ as you misperceive it, activism.


64 posted on 06/03/2012 11:33:46 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: newzjunkey; saradippity; Gaffer
I'm not anti-Catholic and I don't wish to debate the Catholic church. What I am about is standing for the gospel of Jesus Christ as found in the Word. The truth is that the Catholic gospel is not a saving gospel. I have a great burden for Catholic souls. I have many Roman Catholics in my family and I fear for them, so I don't say these things to be mean or because I hate any man. I say them because it is better to be divided in truth than united in error. Carefully compare these Scriptural truths with what you have been told is the gospel. Ask God to open your eyes to see His truth. Ask Him to point you to the real gospel, the gospel upon which you can rest your soul. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. (Ephesians 2:4-9) He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that being justified by His grace we would be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. (Titus 3:5-7) You have been ensnared in manmade religion. Come to the Christ of Scriptures. I will pray for you.
65 posted on 06/03/2012 12:39:51 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: RKV
I am sorry I was only trying to be helpful.

However,I did go to New Advent and truly have no idea why you sent me there,there wasn't anything on the home page that reflected your citation. I did not go to the archives but I am sure that it would not be there either,especially as quoted.

It doesn't seem to corroborate your misinformation or the original poster to whom I responded.

Have a nice Sunday and a happy,healthy,holy year!!

66 posted on 06/03/2012 12:47:13 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: trebb

Just to clarify - Popes can be infallible if they and the Holy Spirit want them to be infallible. For example, the Pope was infallible when he issued documents in conjunction with all of the Bishops in the 1960s (Vatican II). Also the pope was infallible when he declared about 60 years ago that Mary was Assumed into Heaven.

But, yes, a Pope speaking in an address or even in written documents may be fallible. There is no infallibility around statements partially addressing “green” theory.


67 posted on 06/03/2012 2:53:00 PM PDT by impimp
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

After all of the arguing, I am still hoping some wealthy Catholic family will listen to the Pope and agree to subsidize me a bit. Thanks.


68 posted on 06/03/2012 8:42:33 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

You might want to read the original text of what he said which usually gets spun so bad it makes what our MSM does to W look like a worthless Looney Tunes episode.


69 posted on 06/03/2012 10:18:30 PM PDT by stanne
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