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ATI Debuts STG-44 Rifle to Consumers at Raahauges
Ammoland ^ | 31 May, 2012 | ATI

Posted on 06/03/2012 8:09:02 AM PDT by marktwain

ROCHESTER, NY –-(Ammoland.com)- American Tactical Imports, a worldwide importer of firearms, is proud to introduce the GSG STG-44 to consumers at the Raahauges Shooting Sports Fair June 1-3 2012.

The German Sport Guns .22LR STG-44 is the newest addition to the exciting line of GSG firearms.

The demo was introduced at SHOT Show 2012, but now consumers will be able to see, handle and shoot the GSG STG-44 from ATI for the first time. The STG 44 (Sturmgewehr 44, literally “Storm Rifle”) was designed in 1944 in Nazi Germany and is considered by many historians to be the first modern assault rifle.

Designed to precisely imitate the WWII Sturmgewehr, the .22 LR GSG STG-44 features a weight of 9.5lbs, a 17.2” barrel, an overall length of 37.2” and real solid wood furniture. It is available with 10 or 25 round capacity magazines and comes shipped in an Eastern Pine box hand-crafted by the Amish in the mountain region of New York state. The STG-44 is expected to be available for consumer purchase by mid-July, and has an MSRP of $599.95.

The Raahauges Shooting Sports Fair will be held at 14995 River Rd., Corona, CA 92880 and will be open on Friday, June 1 from noon to 6 p.m., Saturday, June 2 from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m., and Sunday, June 3 from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m.?Cost to attend is $12. The show will feature hands-on shooting of new and popular firearms from a great lineup of manufacturers, a rock wall, free fishing, food booths, seminars, dog show and other entertainment booths. Visit www.raahauges.com for more information.

American Tactical Imports is the exclusive U.S. representative of quality firearms, ammunition and equipment from around the globe. They have quickly established themselves as a reputable and recognized importer. ATI replaces the manufacturer as the exclusive representative in the distribution chain, only selling to legitimate distributors in the United States. To order American Tactical Imports’ products, inquire about its distributors at your local gun shop, or visit the website below.

For more information regarding this product available from American Tactical Imports, please visit www.americantactical.us


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Rather pricey for a semi-auto .22. But then, it has great intimidation power. I wonder how well it works.
1 posted on 06/03/2012 8:09:18 AM PDT by marktwain
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2 posted on 06/03/2012 8:10:17 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I was looking at guns at a local Wal-Mart. They had several AR style guns in the under $1000.00 range. Then I spied a Sig Sauer at just under $500 only to be disappointed.

It was a .22LR. Still a nice looking rifle.


3 posted on 06/03/2012 8:17:02 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: marktwain

.22? Meh, now if they’d make it in 7.62X39...
still pricey though.


4 posted on 06/03/2012 8:18:54 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: marktwain

It looks cool but $600 for the functional equivalent of a Ruger 10/22 seems pretty pricey


5 posted on 06/03/2012 8:19:42 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: tet68

Enough with the small caliber crap! If there’s no prominent exit wound, it’s only fencing.


6 posted on 06/03/2012 8:30:56 AM PDT by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: marktwain

Why would anyone want a 22 that looks like an assault rifle?


7 posted on 06/03/2012 8:36:46 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: arrdon

“Enough with the small caliber crap! If there’s no prominent exit wound, it’s only fencing.”

I am with you, if a caliber has to start with at least the holy number 4.


8 posted on 06/03/2012 8:39:48 AM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: mosaicwolf

To practice. Look at the ATI Ak-47 in 22 caliber. It’s the same dimensions as a real AK-47. Incredibly accurate out of the box too - or maybe I’m just a perfect shot (no, I’m not).

I don’t have money to blow on 7.62 x 39 just to practice for no particular reason on a Saturday morning. But I have plenty of dough to spend on thousands of .22.


9 posted on 06/03/2012 8:48:38 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: marktwain

That’s an expensive varmint gun.

Buy a used Marin 60 for about $40 to kill the rats and crows.

Then spend the other $540 on ammo for your real self-defense weapons, on long-term storage food and other preps for emergencies.


10 posted on 06/03/2012 8:49:46 AM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt)
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To: mosaicwolf

Last weekend I was at a local amateur tactical shoot at a range near me. There was a guy that used the ATI GSG-5. When his run was complete, he sure did have a big smile on his face. A fun day at the range with cheap ammo is hard to beat.


11 posted on 06/03/2012 8:53:09 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: mosaicwolf
Why would anyone want a 22 that looks like an assault rifle?

To make Dianne Feinstein soil her undies and go into convulsions.
12 posted on 06/03/2012 8:56:59 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: marktwain

Our governor Cueball will be upset.


13 posted on 06/03/2012 9:01:08 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: marktwain

Oh goody, another duded up 10-22.


14 posted on 06/03/2012 9:13:37 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Youth And Brawn Are No Match For Age And Treachery. I'm Old And May Not Fight. I'll Shoot Instead.)
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To: Iron Munro

My brother in law handed me an old Marlin 60 to repair in return for his plumbing services. He knows squat about guns except how to pull the trigger.

His son lost the magazine tube capture rod - ordered and replaced.

DIRTY as hell - never been cleaned...a little cumbersome on breakdown to clean thoroughly but once I understood that not too bad at cleaning. I spent quite a few hours on cleaning it up sanding/restaining/coating the stock, etc. but it was a beauty when I gave it back to him.

The next thing I did was to go buy a new one and put a good scope on it....a damned good reliable accurate plinker for around $150..


15 posted on 06/03/2012 9:29:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: marktwain
What was the original chambered in?

9mm Lugar?

16 posted on 06/03/2012 9:36:51 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Gaffer

I noticed several years ago, well a lot of years ago that the Marlin model 60 and it’s variations tended to be far more accurate than the average .22 rifle.

A couple of them I owned have been true tack drivers. What is really great is the price. They tend to shoot far better than stock 10/22s which I otherwise appreciate as great rifles.


17 posted on 06/03/2012 9:40:45 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: muir_redwoods
It looks cool but $600 for the functional equivalent of a Ruger 10/22 seems pretty pricey

My thoughts too - recently picked up a Ruger 10/22 and paid less than $300 including a spare 10-round mag and tax. Fine and simple weapon and very accurate, especially nice with the .22 LR Hyper Velocity rounds - they flatten it out so you don't have to adjust when moving between 50/100 yds.

18 posted on 06/03/2012 9:44:12 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Last Dakotan

They were chambered for the 7.92X33 Kurtz otherwise known as the 8MM short. It was basically a shortened version of the 8MM Mauser.


19 posted on 06/03/2012 9:45:04 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Last Dakotan

It was chambered in 7.92x33 just a bit differant then the 7.62x39 use in the AK47


20 posted on 06/03/2012 9:46:17 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: yarddog

One of the original manufacturers of the real StG-44 made a special run of about 150 semiauto-only StG-44s a few years ago. Original caliber, made from original drawings...so accurate it even has many of the same minor problems that cropped up with the real StG-44 in service!

A fellow I know has one; for what it is, it’s beautiful.


21 posted on 06/03/2012 9:53:11 AM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: M1903A1

I fired a orignal WW2 issue Sturmgewher.What a blast. The guy bought it 30 years ago for 1000..now valued at 45 grand,plus the BATF paperwork.
Work buy the 22 version, but saving for a AR


22 posted on 06/03/2012 10:33:27 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: M1903A1

I fired a orignal WW2 issue Sturmgewher.What a blast. The guy bought it 30 years ago for 1000..now valued at 45 grand,plus the BATF paperwork.
Would buy the 22 version, but saving for a AR


23 posted on 06/03/2012 10:33:51 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: mosaicwolf
Why would anyone want a 22 that looks like an assault rifle?

Agreed. If you want a cheap rifle, buy a surplus M91 Mossin Nagant. 7.62*54MM, reach out and say "Hello" to some poor watermelon or 32 OZ plastic soda bottle... :D

24 posted on 06/03/2012 10:34:28 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: yarddog; Gaffer

The Marlin Model 60 is very accurate. The micro-groove barrel that Marlin uses is one of the best bargains around and I have always found them to be far more accurate than the standard 10-22 offered by Ruger. I own a few of each and have already bought my kids new ones that are still in the boxes.

I won’t badmouth the 10-22 though. That is a fun rifle to shoot and it’s accurate enough at short range.


25 posted on 06/03/2012 10:35:01 AM PDT by volunbeer (Don't worry America, our kids can pay for it!)
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To: trebb

I suppose there are better .22 semi-auto rifles than the Ruger 10/22 but not for the money, IMHO.


26 posted on 06/03/2012 10:51:36 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: marktwain
As one who's had an MP-44 (StG-44) — since sold — in my collection, I can tell you this.

1. The real rifle is a true war club and replicating it in .22 LR hasn't changed that.
2. No, it is not in a modern center fire caliber — so what? You can buy an AKM knockoff for $400 that shoots 7.62x39, 5.54x39, or 5.56x45 NATO. If you want that caliber, buy it!
3. Having a real MP-44 or StG-44 is hideously expensive with licensing alone and that doesn't include the 7.92x33 Kurz ammunition to feed it. There are several sources of fresh 7.92x33 Kurz ammo available, such as Prvi Partisan (Yugoslav) or Hornady (USA). Prices average $1 per round per box of 20. Not exactly cheap.
4. PTR Inc. brought in about 150 semi-auto only MP-44 (StG-44) clones as the PTR-44. MSRP on them was $4,290. These rifles were sold and I saw a NIB rifle being offered to collectors for $6,700. So, if you want a full bore replica, bring a fat checkbook.

If you want a piece of inexpensive, shooting history — then, the ATI replica StG-44 is your choice. You can shoot a lot of .22 LR for the price of one round of 7.92x33 Kurz.

Also, this gun should be no slouch when loaded with hyper velocity .22 LR hollow points. Its weight guarantees no recoil and no muzzle rise in rapid shots.

27 posted on 06/03/2012 10:51:36 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: volunbeer

I also like the tube magazine. It allows more flexibility in prone shots.


28 posted on 06/03/2012 10:56:34 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: muir_redwoods

I personally think there are better .22 autos than the Ruger 10/22, especially for the money.

On the other hand I think the Ruger would make a good self defense gun in the home. It would be OK with just the standard 10 round mag but put a good quality 30 round one in it and it would be especially good.


29 posted on 06/03/2012 11:08:43 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: marktwain
Who's gonna buy that for $600 when you can have .308 for less money?


30 posted on 06/03/2012 11:13:57 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: muir_redwoods

***It looks cool but $600 for the functional equivalent of a Ruger 10/22 seems pretty pricey***

Yeah, but think of all the Libs who will loose bladder control when they see it!


31 posted on 06/03/2012 11:16:58 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Anything Goes, Phantom of the Opera, Nice work if you can get it, EVITA. On BROADWAY last week.!)
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Or .223


32 posted on 06/03/2012 11:23:50 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Okieshooter

45 is good...


33 posted on 06/03/2012 11:28:07 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Iron Munro

Watch how on “Swamp People” a nondescript .22 rifle of any make is used to turn ten feet of raging alligator into inert lizard meat. Shot placement critical.

The .22 Sturmgewehr looks neat, but I’ll keep my $300 CETME rifle for now. Strong family resemblance, though.


34 posted on 06/03/2012 11:31:54 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: MasterGunner01

“Also, this gun should be no slouch when loaded with hyper velocity .22 LR hollow points. Its weight guarantees no recoil and no muzzle rise in rapid shots.”

That is true for my 10/22...and with the scope I have it is accurate, even with this old gizzer pullin’ the trigger.


35 posted on 06/03/2012 11:32:38 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: elcid1970

The CETME was the next evolution of the Sturmgewehr
and they were $350 new for years


36 posted on 06/03/2012 11:34:51 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: volunbeer
The Marlin 795 with detachable magazine is the Marlin 60 cut to handle the mags. It is a great shooter, and like you, I have purchased and set aside two for my grand-kids. I also purchased several of the 10 round mags in stainless steel. Perhaps someday ProMag will issue a twenty five rounder, but I'm not holding my breath. The Mossberg folks came out with a hi cap mag for their 702 Plinkster, but it doesn't function reliably. I doubt the ‘assault weapon’ version of the Plinkster functions any better. The action of the 702 Plinkster was a copy amalgam of the 1022 and the Marlin 60.
37 posted on 06/03/2012 11:37:22 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: marktwain
These German sports 1911 .22's with fake suppressor were $350

Pretty neat, but still to pricey for a .22

38 posted on 06/03/2012 11:40:50 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: marktwain
French Mas 1936, here is a real rifle, and when it first appeared as surplus in the late 1980s, could be had two for a hundred bucks or less. But those happy days are now of dream stuff.

The French Mas 1936 rifle is the last military bolt action rifle designed and put into service by a major power. It is far advanced over other military bolt actions, as it eliminated their faults and incorporated their strengths, plus several new innovations. Being of French origin, the Mas 1936 like other French military small arms, never got no respect here in the US. When WW2 started France did not have sufficient numbers of the rifle for front line troops. Consequently the rifle saw little action in the war, but it soldiered on around the world in France’s colonial wars, giving a good account for itself, it was also the battle rifle for the French Foreign Legion. A variant of the Mas 1936 chambered in 7.62x51 NATO is still the primary sniper rifle for French military and police.

It is chambered in 7.5x54mm which is a very modern rimless cartridge with velocities about on par with the 7.62x51 NATO (.308) round. A 17” cruciform bayonet is reverse stored in the lower forestock, push a button, pull out, reverse, and snap into socket. Rear aperture sight graduated 200-1200 meters, front sight is a rather thick fixed blade, which makes for a good battle sight system, but not for precise target shooting. (best I have ever done with the as is iron, was 1.5” at 100 yards) Weight of the small rifle with 22.5” barrel is a hefty 8.5 pounds. The rather odd looking bolt handle is a put off to many, but the ergonomics of it are sound. With the short 60 degree bolt throw, it is capable of extremely rapid fire for a bolt action. I have searched for, but unable to find video of a guy in French Legionnaire's uniform I once saw. With the rifle remaining mounted to his shoulder, he was able to fire five rounds so fast, it was just a blur. He did not grasp the bolt handle with his fingers, but due to the design, he was slapping the action open and closed with open palm only. Unfortunately I shoot LH, so rapid fire with it is no go for me.

Guys in these videos are very slow compared to another video I saw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbXRpV09-ew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acwSWHte9Eo

I recently got my like new refurbed Mas 1936 rifle from a private party for $200.00, which for around here I consider a good deal (other's mileage may vary) with them often going much higher on gun auction sites & etc.. I really like it, an extremely well made sturdy and sound battle rifle.

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39 posted on 06/03/2012 11:45:09 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Youth And Brawn Are No Match For Age And Treachery. I'm Old And May Not Fight. I'll Shoot Instead.)
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To: All

http://www.americantactical.us/


40 posted on 06/03/2012 11:45:55 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: marktwain

Very informative thread. I admit I am .22-Rifle stupid, but I have not read any references, yet, in this thread to Savage Arms .22 rifles. I always thought they looked pretty nice, but have never shot one. Any thoughts?


41 posted on 06/03/2012 11:50:00 AM PDT by man_in_tx (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!)
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To: Sea Parrot
Really neat.
I'd like an FR8


42 posted on 06/03/2012 11:50:28 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
That's nice. I have a 10/22 also, albeit with an MG42 dress up kit installed. (I like the strange looks it gets at the range before I shoot it and it goes “pop”.)

However, this isn't about cheap .22 LR semi-auto rifles. This is about the cool factor from having an MP-44 (StG-44) clone in a cheap caliber to shoot.

Is the rifle expensive compared to other .22 LR semi-autos? Yes.

Can you buy rifles that are cheaper and may be even better than this? Yes.

Then, why spend the money to buy one? Because it is cool and really different. This is about a nontraditional shooting piece and not some run of the mill Ruger or Marlin or whatever.

I like this cool looking .22 LR and I will probably buy one once they become available.

43 posted on 06/03/2012 11:53:09 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Sea Parrot
Scoped FR8


44 posted on 06/03/2012 12:01:24 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: MasterGunner01

“Then, why spend the money to buy one? Because it is cool and really different.”

Yup, I like it too...and think what the intruder coming in your front door will think when he sees it (if you give him a peek first before the 2 pops to the chest and 1 pop to the head :)


45 posted on 06/03/2012 12:07:40 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Sea Parrot

While I don’t believe in paying $500+ for the look-alikes, they have absolutely zero commonality with the 10/22.


46 posted on 06/03/2012 12:13:34 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: All

I agree with the folks that love the Marlin 60.
I have a marlin 600 (fancy 60) that I have shot for 30 years.

Very accurate and never jams.
A cheap Simmons scope makes it even more fun.


47 posted on 06/03/2012 12:39:58 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
The FR8 is a good looking weapon, the Spanish have always been innovative when it comes to the Mauser.

Here is a Israeli 98 Mauser in 7.62x51 made by FN in 1950s. It was a $90.00 buy when I got it in 1987. I decided to scout it and turned out for my purposes just fine.Photobucket

Here is link as to how I did it. (scroll down) http://hstrial-rchambers.homestead.com/early.html#

48 posted on 06/03/2012 12:45:53 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Youth And Brawn Are No Match For Age And Treachery. I'm Old And May Not Fight. I'll Shoot Instead.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Perp: “Oh, crap! It's an AK! (Perps aren't good at firearms ID.)

Then — Bang! Bang! Bang! (Lights out time.)

49 posted on 06/03/2012 12:51:16 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Sea Parrot

Beautiful work! I’m contemplating doing something similar to my vinatge 1943 Mosina 91/30, but it is hard to start chopping on soemthing that is so accurate and classic in appearance. *sigh*


50 posted on 06/03/2012 12:53:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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