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Obama and 168 House Members Defend Sex-Selection Abortion (Bill defeated; who are the 168?)
NRLC ^ | May 31, 2012 | NRLC Media Relations

Posted on 06/03/2012 12:52:39 PM PDT by Salvation

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To: Salvation

among those apparently voting for murder of baby girls:

rinos mary bono mack (no surprise), nan hayworth (somewhat surprising), bob dold, richard hanna, charlie bass.

libertarians justin amash and ron paul. done with any possibility of supporting them. they are clearly not conservative.


21 posted on 06/03/2012 11:22:41 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Monorprise

I am coming around to your point of view, even though I am so opposed to abortion I wouldn’t have one even if raped.

Can one be an extremely conservative libertarian?


22 posted on 06/04/2012 7:54:45 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: jacquej

Well the unannounced problem is if congress can outlaw a particular kind of abortion(murder) then they not only implacably inlaw all other forms they could one day inlaw that form as well.

I don’t find that power anywhere mentioned in the Federal Constitution except for Federal districts & territories where they have state like powers.

Abortion like murder are State issues, each state has to decided theses matters for themselves and by themselves.

The only thing congress has any kind of authority to do is to control the state borders as to insure that people don’t simply cross the State lines to gain that which is prohibited by their own people in their own state. This is no different than controlling the international borders.

Many southern States already have retrocipical laws setup to respect their neighbors in this way.


23 posted on 06/04/2012 9:27:55 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Jane Long
"Here are the "R's" who voted "Yea":"

Left out Don Young (R) of Alaska, for one...

24 posted on 06/04/2012 9:28:12 AM PDT by redhead (Libs can't win without cheating--Conservatives don't have to cheat to win)
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To: samtheman

The Democrats made a deal with the devil and they are going to have to pay the devil his due.


25 posted on 06/04/2012 10:55:33 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: dadfly

It is not just about the economy it is about morality as well.


26 posted on 06/04/2012 11:01:01 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Salvation

I am 100 percent pro-life believe me, but I don’t see how passing this bill either saves lives or ultimately fights abortion in general.

First, once you have already established by law, and apparently in our country in the national consciousness, that murder is perfectly OK, legally and morally, what difference does the REASON make?

By adding “stipulations” or “yes/no” scenarios to individual abortions, you simply reinforce that abortion overall is acceptable and permanent as part of our society.

Second, this is impossible to enforce and will lead to all sorts of government (taxpayer) expense. Hate to be crude, but let’s face that.

Here’s the reality of what will happen (simplified):

Woman is 5 months pregnant with a boy. Decides to abort and try again with husband for a girl. Goes to Planned Parenthood and says, “I want an abortion.” PP says, “OK, but first you have to sign this form from the Federal Govt declaring that you are not having this abortion for reasons related to the sex of the child.” Woman says, Sure, signs form, sex-selection abortion is performed.

There will be Fed and State forms, reports, audits, compliance inspections...were easily talking in the millions. If it saved one life, it would be worth it. But considering the mentality of a woman who has already decided it’s OK to murder her baby, I don’t see that this law would save lives. We cannot and should not presume to read anyone’s mind.


27 posted on 06/05/2012 11:44:42 PM PDT by baa39
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