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Environment: Germany, a laboratory for green growth
OECD ^ | 05/31/2012 | OECD

Posted on 06/04/2012 12:12:32 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

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To: Ben Ficklin

Ooops, Ben Ficklin. Was just a typo...


51 posted on 06/06/2012 1:17:23 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Ben Ficklin; piytar

CO2 is a plant growth stimulant and that is about it at anything close to current concentrations. And by “anything close” I mean up to 2X to 3X.

Why do you want to starve subsistence farmers?

The fact the the EPA can regulate to extinction fire and breathing, which is a natural outgrowth of their current stance, without any involvement from Congress, pure Executive fiat only, no public debate of any sort, is proof positive the EPA needs to be knocked down if not destroyed completely so that we can start over.


52 posted on 06/06/2012 3:55:10 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
"subsistence farming"- I'm not aware of any subsistence farming in the US. Are you talking about the ag collectives in Mexico? Ethiopia? China?

"fire and breathing"- the EPA's tailored regulatory threshold is 75,000 tons or 100,000 tons depending if it is a new permit or expansion of an old permit

"without any involvement from Congress"- Court decisions carry the weight of law and we have many, many laws in this country that flow from court decisions. In fact everything that EPA does gets litigated. EVERYTHING! And usually it gets litagated numerous times and sometimes these changes take decades. Today, the EPA's actions on CO2 that flow from the 2007 court decision are the subject of numerous lawsuits and we can identify the subjects of those law suits. I sat "we" meaning those of those that are informed. I doubt that you can because you listen to the empty right wing rhetoric.

So let me ask you, can you name the subject matter of the 3 lawsuits? Which of the 3 are the plantiffs most likely to win and EPA lose? Is there any possibilty that the plantiffs can get the courts to enjoin EPA from enforcement until the courts hear the suits and issue a ruling?

In the meantime, what actions might Congress take to head this off? What are the 3 positions in Congress?

53 posted on 06/06/2012 5:59:16 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit; bill1952
Been here longer than you. I am getting bored anyway

Then leave once and for all and don't come back. We're all bored with your German green propaganda.

54 posted on 09/04/2012 7:39:33 AM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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