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Thoughts on the Diamond Jubilee: Sixty Years a Rubber Stamp
The Libertarian Alliance: BLOG ^ | May 29, 2012 | Sean Gabb

Posted on 06/04/2012 8:39:48 PM PDT by rmlew

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Some British Libertarians and nationalists are less than pleased with the reign of Queen Elizabeth II. I agree with them, not because I dislike the monarchy, but because I expect it to protect the nation.
1 posted on 06/04/2012 8:39:59 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: rmlew
Dr. Gabb is even more scathing here:
Monarchy, Nation-States, And The Failed Reign of "Elizabeth The Useless"
2 posted on 06/04/2012 8:43:15 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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All I know is that Queen Victoria would have never had a Sodomite like Elton John play a Royal Party.


3 posted on 06/04/2012 8:57:44 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: rmlew

Agreed, in 60 years she’s not exercised her powers, but, in all that time she’s served her people better than all but one president (Reagan) and one PM (Thatcher).

Sad to say, “elected by God” has a better track record than “elected by the mob”.

Repeal the 17th - bring back hereditary peerages!


4 posted on 06/04/2012 9:25:52 PM PDT by Vide
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Why I respect QEII.

5 posted on 06/04/2012 9:28:00 PM PDT by dfwgator
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I respect her, too. Three swanky hots, in a very swanky cot, does not equate personal freedom. She took a pledge, filmed, at a very young age, to faithfully uphold the burden placed upon her as eventual monarch,once her uncle abdicated and dumped that responsibility on her poor parents. In my opinion, she has upheld that pledge at the sacrifice of any hope of normality in her life. I don’t see that same personal sacrifice in Princes Charles, Andrew, and Edward. I have high hopes for Prince William and his wife, though, in a more modern interpretation of royalty and divine right and their roles in a Constitutional monarchy in the fullness of time. Hey, long live the Queen! Her Mum made it to 101!


6 posted on 06/04/2012 9:41:41 PM PDT by kiltie65 (ui)
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To: rmlew

Darn straight; I’m American, but if I were English..


7 posted on 06/04/2012 9:50:54 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: dfwgator
Agreed.
Her actions during WW11 went a long ways to hold the country together - not just serving as a mechanic - but, while London was under the Blitzkrieg, she refused to leave London - even after the palace itself was bombed, against all urging, she refused to leave.
She stayed to give the people support and hope. No One would have thought ill of her had she left - but she stayed and in all other ways, was a comfortingly, steadfast figure for the people.
None of these things were mentioned in the long diatribe - and without mentioning much of the good she did do - it is a diatribe. It is ‘opinion.’

Everybody has one.

8 posted on 06/04/2012 9:52:46 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (tahk)
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Thoughts on the Diamond Jubilee: Sixty Years a Rubber Stamp

Excellent article, if too polite.

Going along with things is seen as somehow morally neutral these days, at the very most, inept. But it most certainly is not - especially in a sovereign.

Silence in the presence of evil IS evil, because it enables, protects and expands evil.

By deliberate design.

9 posted on 06/04/2012 10:11:46 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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That photo would have been taken during the three week Transportation course she took a short distance from Windsor Castle, largely isolated from others, she ‘enlisted’ in March 1945. Hitler killed himself in April.

“She was enlisted as 230873 Second Subaltern Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor in the Auxiliary Territorial Service, the ATS, [March, 1945] and sent to train as a transport officer at Camberley. The course was three weeks and Princess Elizabeth did not associate too closely with her fellow trainees.

She lunched in the officers’ mess and slept the night at Windsor; 50 years later, her grandsons would eat cadet food, iron their own uniforms, polish their own boots and be shouted at on the drill square.

Despite her kid-glove treatment, Princess Elizabeth greatly appreciated her spell in the ATS, believing it gave her a confidence she had previously lacked

The war in Europe was now drawing to a close and on May 8, 1945, the two princesses were allowed out of the Palace with their Guards officer friends to mingle with the crowds in the Mall and join in the shouts of “We want the King”

The entire WWII experience as a military member for Princess Elizabeth seems to have consisted of about 6 or 7 weeks when she lived in Windsor Castle, enlisted as a Lieutenant, attended a personalized 3 week course, had some photos taken of her touching trucks, never left the house, was promoted to Captain and was finished with the entire exercise by the 6th or 7th week.

She had been a Colonel before.

“In keeping with her power and status of high birth, on her 16th birthday she was appointed Colonel of the Grenadier Guards during WWII (during 1942).

The Grenadier Guards training element was stationed at her home, Windsor Castle as security and personal escorts for her.”


10 posted on 06/04/2012 11:47:50 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: maine-iac7

See post 10, she never “served” in any capacity, and she was never a mechanic.


11 posted on 06/04/2012 11:50:19 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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She most certainly did serve - not as a mechanic, but as a driver - which required her to have basic mechanical skills as drivers were expected to perform running repairs where necessary. The article fairly accurately describes her training - it does not describe her subsequent service which did involve her driving military vehicles all over England. She was on active service from March until the end of July 1945, at which point, following the close of the war in Europe, she was released from active service along with thousands of other women who were among the first to be ‘demobbed’. It was only five months active service, but it was active service. The Royal Family do not claim active service unless they can do so on the same terms as any other members of the service.


12 posted on 06/05/2012 2:37:09 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Vide
Agreed, in 60 years she’s not exercised her powers, but, in all that time she’s served her people better than all but one president (Reagan) and one PM (Thatcher).

Actually, she has exercised her powers on a few occasions.

In 1963, she appointed a Prime Minister, Sir Alec Douglas-Home. In 1974, she directed Harold MacMillan to form a minority government. And in 1999, she refused permission to debate a Bill in Parliament.

The Queen only exercises her powers in very specific circumstances, but it does happen.

13 posted on 06/05/2012 2:41:34 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: rmlew

Great article about Elizabeth the Useless! The monarchy has failed the people!


14 posted on 06/05/2012 4:36:21 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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The monarchy has failed the people!

Not unlike the US Congress and Presidency.

15 posted on 06/05/2012 4:49:49 AM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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To: Uncle Slayton

“All I know is that Queen Victoria would have never had a Sodomite like Elton John play a Royal Party.”

I doubt George Washington would’ve appreciated having to bow to a Kenyan muslim president, but that’s what America elected. Times change but on balance I’ll take a queen singing for the Queen over the near white minority in the US.


16 posted on 06/05/2012 5:29:14 AM PDT by Caulkhead
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To: naturalman1975

She wasn’t driving a truck during the war, and she did not “serve” as a soldier, it was theater for photographs and public relations.

So you have the future Queen of England leaving Windsor Castle every morning and leaving her security people and the intense security of the Royal family’s residence, to go drive a truck around England during the daytime, and then drive back to the castle after the WWII work day so that she could sleep under high security at night.

All that so that she could serve in the last weeks of the war leaving all that daytime truck driving with the rank of Captain.

How many truck drivers enter military service, attend school, attain the rank of Captain and then are discharged, all in five months, all the time living under security, having little contact with normal soldiers, and spending her nights sleeping in the most protected residence of England in WWII for security reasons?

Any ideas why she waited until almost her 19th birthday to do all this, just as the war was ending and Germany was totally collapsing?


17 posted on 06/05/2012 8:12:50 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: Vide

Her first Prime Minister was Winston Churchill.


18 posted on 06/05/2012 11:09:55 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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So she did a few PR stunts while Princess, while under the orders of her father and with the request of Churchill.

McGovern served in World War 2. I guess he was the patriotic choice too.

19 posted on 06/05/2012 11:12:58 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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During the Second World War, Princess Elizabeth and her sister Princess Margaret, lived in Barlmorol (sp) Castle in Scotland. They did not live in London.
20 posted on 06/05/2012 11:23:26 AM PDT by BooBoo1000 ("The plans I have for you are plans to prosper you.,not to harm you, Plans to give you hope)
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