Skip to comments.Police Stop, Handcuff Every Adult at Intersection in Search for Bank Robber (Colorado)
Posted on 06/05/2012 7:15:46 AM PDT by Islander7
Police in Aurora, Colo., searching for suspected bank robbers stopped every car at an intersection, handcuffed all the adults and searched the cars, one of which they believed was carrying the suspect.
Police said they had received what they called a reliable tip that the culprit in an armed robbery at a Wells Fargo bank committed earlier was stopped at the red light.
We didnt have a description, didnt know race or gender or anything, so a split-second decision was made to stop all the cars at that intersection, and search for the armed robber, Aurora police Officer Frank Fania told ABC News.
Officers barricaded the area, halting 19 cars.
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If nobody files a class-action lawsuit on behalf of the victims by tomorrow morning, that means our country is already finished.
And the ‘Tip’ quite likely came from one of the bank robbers, or a friend thereof, that gave them time to get away.
Imagine someone with a valid CCW/CCL driving into that trap... the cops’d shoot first and ask questions later.
The very antithesis of "probable cause".
Baa, baaa, baaaaaaa!
Not one wolf (or even ill-tempered sheep) in the entire flock.
They didn’t have a description. Didn’t have sex, race, age. Didn’t know the vehicle. Still had a “virtual certainty.” What’s that? RFID chip? Then why can’t they pinpoint the car? Why did they bottle up the robber with a bunch of potential hostages?
They showed some confiscated guns. They didn’t show any recovered money. They didn’t name a suspect. And still they say they caught the robber.
I do believe I’d entertain myself with requiring a warrant to search my car, and then a lawsuit for false arrest.
I'm guessing that it was ordered by Holder's FBI.
[ Most of the adults were handcuffed, then were told what was going on and were asked for permission to search the car, Fania said. They all granted permission, and once nothing was found in their cars, they were un-handcuffed. ]
So if you demanded than they provide as earch warrant I would have to wonder what “evidence” they would have “found”. Also would they have arrested you on the charge of “interfereing with a police investigation”...
From freedom to slavery...in one generation!!!
This would pretty much depend on how ‘reliable’ this tip was in order to stop all those cars. If it was an eyewitness that would be enough, but an eyewitness should be able to provide SOME physical script of the perp. Weird scenario.
Aurora is a suberb of Denver, which is a liberal bastion second only to the People’s Republic of Boulder as a place where illogic and idiocy abound.
Thankfully, the rest of the state is quite sane and - of course - that’s where folks actually do real work and produce things.
not out of the realm of probability.
“Imagine someone with a valid CCW/CCL driving into that trap... the copsd shoot first and ask questions later.”
CO is quite liberal (in the good sense) with CCW permits. However, when applying for it in a (not Denver) city, the sheriff’s dept always briefs that one should not count on any logic whatsoever if one is stopped in Denver.
Sounds like those recent cases where someone calls in fake calls which end up with swat teams arriving at your door.
Welcome to the USSA police state.
I visited the Statue of Liberty last year and couldn’t believe the way we were treated at security. This was AFTER the first round of security at Ellis Island. Unbelievable.
“Aurora is a suberb of Denver, which is a liberal bastion second only to the Peoples Republic of Boulder as a place where illogic and idiocy abound.”
Interesting how these college towns, Boulder, Iowa City, Austin, Madison etc are bastians of useful leftist idiots...
In ancient Rome it was illegal to shackle a citizen for any reason.
Sieg Heil - Our heroes strike again. You wan them to go home to their families at night don’t you? I’m sure that those people did something to deserve this. (do I really need the < sarcasm>
The lawyers can afford younger mistresses and older whiskey now.
In a sane world, the Aurora police department would be holding bake sales to buy gas for their cruisers after a stunt like this.
No profiling of any kind occurred. That's the important thing.
Abundance of Laws = Absence of Justice
There is now no level that the police will not stoop. If you do not believe that, ask the poor guy in Stockton they beat to death just for kicks.
Why are local cops enforcing Federal crimes? Immigration laws are Federal, and they must not enforce them. Just tell the goobermint come take care of it.
Let me get this right.... you suggest just going along with stupid cops wiping their rearend with the Constitution, just to not make waves?
[ Let me get this right.... you suggest just going along with stupid cops wiping their rearend with the Constitution, just to not make waves? ]
Where did you get that from my response??? please have the decency to quote me when you respond to me, unless you are responding to someone else, then quote them. Thanks.
and today, they should not have jobs.
Perhaps a tracking device in the loot?
Not enough tracking resolution to the exact car, but good enough to get to the intersection...
Sez Officer Einstein. What did they expect to find? A guy wearing a black and white horizontal stripped shirt and a black mask?
Would you give up 10 minutes of freedom in order to get this guy off the street?
Yes, but nailing them to crosses worked.
They may not be military but there is an prevalent Us-cops vs. citizens train if thought which is strong and getting stronger.
I know too many officers who have this mentality. As per example a friend of mine went through a roadblock and her tags were expired. One officer a new one wanted to write her up. The other officer said, go ahead but it will be taken care of before you get back to the station. Her husband is one of us. No ticket and she had the tags corrected by the end of the day.
I have relatives who are officers active and retired, same thing, us vs. citizens, although the retired relatives are not as stringent in taking the us vs. citizen attitude.
It’s really hurting the average Joe’s view of police as their friend and not to be trusted. From what I am hearing no one wants anything to do with the police good or bad unless absolutely necessary and not then even, they just want to be left alone.
Those citizens in denver should have asked for warrants as the police had no probably cause to pull over every single citizen and handcuff them. That was nothing more than a round up of any poor soul who happened to be in the area and then them having to produce their papers please, be handcuffed and then have to allow a search of their vehicle to prove their innocence.
It is about dignity.
You simply do not shackle innocent people in a real free society. Of course that passed us by long ago.
Never consent to a search. NEVER. Learn phrases like: “Am Under arrest?” “Am I free to go?” “Do you have any reasonable suspicion or probably cause?”
In this situation, it is proper to “detain” people for 20-30 minutes. No cuffs, and if anyone flees that may be probably cause for arrest.
No searches without a warrant.
Take snapshots of a couple dozen people and text them to the bank witnesses for ID. That shouldn’t take 20 minutes.
sorry jack - that doesnt float
I strongly suspect the bank robbery was used as an impromptu excuse to actually do an operation that has been designed and planned for a while, probably one given to them by the DOJ or Homeland Security. I wish at least one motorist had said no just to test what plans the cops had for recalcitrant citizens. Of course that driver may have been quickly dead as a motivation for all the others to co-operate. The officers who would gun the citizen(s)down need only say,”I felt threatened.”
Pardon me, I realize in feminine interpretation, what a lady says can be taken in a variety of ways, but it sure looks like my question on your statement was pretty much hitting the nail on its head. Otherwise clarify, please.
I avoid the Denver-Boulder metroplex like the plague because crap like this goes on up there all the time. On the other hand, there is a bit of schadenfreude at work here because the idiots who’s right were trampled on are the same lefties that vote the politicians in who come up with this crap.
Avoid cities whenever possible.
Not being there, I cannot really comment on this. And by you referring to cops as 'nazi thugs' I don't think you and I are going to make much headway anyhow.
The fact that you're asking this shows that: You have no concept of what the Bill of Rights means and that you were born 60 years too late and in the wrong country
Would you give up 10 minutes of freedom in order to get this guy off the street?
Nope - not 10 seconds. Have you heard of William Blackstone? "Better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer,"
“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.”
William Pitt 1781
I’m sure they’d do the same thing for you if someone took your wallet.
Or, maybe not.
Search is invalid on its face. You cannot be handcuffed (detained) and then give “voluntary” permission to search. The statement is proof - they weren’t unhandcuffed UNTIL they gave permission to search. Coercive, null and void (and a tort under 1983).
Sue. Not for yourselves, but for anyone who may be subject to tactics like this in the future.
And I was in the police business for a long time.
We don't know what their 'reliable' info was, however. If it was, in fact, a GPS device in the stolen money, then searching the immediate area would probably be a good search. We need all the info, but we don't have it. I, unlike you, do not jump to radical conclusions to fit my own views.
And the ‘reliable tip’ did not include skin color?