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Wisconsin Recall Election: Thread 2

Posted on 06/05/2012 6:40:41 PM PDT by Jean S

Edited on 06/05/2012 6:43:17 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

New thread so we can keep this at the top of the breaking news sidebar.

Thread 1

Please posts updates here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: milwaukee; scottwalker; tombarrett; wi2012; wirecall; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
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To: editor-surveyor
What? - Are you a retread? - You haven’t been here that long; that bug got fixed in 2000.

LOL! No, I'm not a retread but I lurked since '98. Then somebody said something positive about Clinton and my BP went through the roof! I told myself, "Screw it, I'm joining!". And I did just so I could tell the poster off.

851 posted on 06/05/2012 10:29:34 PM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: KansasGirl

Democraps who bused in union thugs from Michigan to Racine are trying to manufacture enough votes to at least get a recount and then steal this senate seat in a recount, a la Frankin in MN. They may even steal it outright.

Hopefully Wanggaard holds on or hangs them up until November with challenges to all the illegal out of state voters they will be able to find.

Democraps were pointing at this very senate race to win back control of the state senate long before today. They had targeted this area on the border as the best place to bus in votes from Michigan. This was predictable, a race where there was massive fraud would go into the wee hours of the night and for some unknown reason long after the rest of the state was completed, these clowns are reporting only 47 % of the precincts.


852 posted on 06/05/2012 10:30:18 PM PDT by Beatthedrum
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To: profit_guy

Of those 15 precincts remaining, they are made of 12 wards within city of Racine and 19 wards outside of it. Some of the Racine wards in went 90-10% for the Rat so it still could be close. With what’s in so far for Gov. Walker is at the same % as in 2010, 56%. I don’t know the Senate results from 2010 to compare, other than knowing it was the same two candidates.


853 posted on 06/05/2012 10:30:23 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: profit_guy

I’m getting tired...I meant to say:

“and thus RETAIN control of the senate”

“Why didn’t we recall those cowards who RAN away to Illinois?!”


854 posted on 06/05/2012 10:31:45 PM PDT by profit_guy
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To: profit_guy

Couldn’t get enough signatures to beat their signature judges.


855 posted on 06/05/2012 10:34:11 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

I hope you are right, they finally have listed 45 of 60 precincts and Wanggaard has a 6 % advantage. Hopefully the 19 wards outside Racine go by at least 10 % to Wanggaard.


856 posted on 06/05/2012 10:36:51 PM PDT by Beatthedrum
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To: Jean S

still perhaps ~18K votes outstanding in racine by my calc. and very slow. this doesn’t feel right. why is this one county so slow. the dems really need one of these senate seats. i hope walker’s guys are monitoring.


857 posted on 06/05/2012 10:37:57 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: dadfly

Out of the approx. 18,000 remaining votes to be counted in District 21, how many can we expect?....I am unsure about the make up of those remaining wards.


858 posted on 06/05/2012 10:44:23 PM PDT by profit_guy
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To: NE Cons
Thanks... BTW- I LOVE Sarah

NP...yea, I love her too but I got so mad when she went all in for McCain's Senate re-election that I jumped up and ripped her calendar off my wall and chunked it in the trash...hehe

859 posted on 06/05/2012 10:51:32 PM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: profit_guy

Racine journal now claims Wangaard is BEHIND 86 votes with 95% in unofficially. This isn’t on the county website yet so I don’t know what’s out.


860 posted on 06/05/2012 10:58:28 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

This is from 2010

http://gab.wi.gov/elections-voting/results/2010/fall-general/ward


861 posted on 06/05/2012 11:00:07 PM PDT by profit_guy
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Unfortunately, it looks like we are going to lose that senate seat. How does that effect what Walker has already implemented?


862 posted on 06/05/2012 11:01:58 PM PDT by profit_guy
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To: netmilsmom
That is about as good as it gets.

I like the line "we don't have anything left other than the people standing behind me" line. I guess he forgot the caravan of buses that got them all there in their failed attempt to steal the election.

Going on the Wide World of Sports theme, after that brilliant 'Agony of Defeat' video how about a 'Thrill of Victory' clip? Enjoy -

Wisconsin Recall Winning Moment

863 posted on 06/05/2012 11:03:13 PM PDT by Nasher
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To: JohnBovenmyer

STATE SENATE, DISTRICT 21
Van Wanggaard (R): 33927
John Lehman (D): 34473
96.7% of wards reporting


864 posted on 06/05/2012 11:03:46 PM PDT by profit_guy
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To: Nasher

Easy there Nasher, it looks like we are going to lose the senate seat from District 21.


865 posted on 06/05/2012 11:06:59 PM PDT by profit_guy
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To: profit_guy

It will be interesting to see if the GOP fights this obvious fraud. They wait until 1 am in the morning and as usual are losing all night but find a way to win by a few votes.

GOP needs to research every “new voter” who registered today. Probably at least a couple of thousand were bused in from MI to Racine.

Tie them up in recounts and charges of fraud until November.

Sour way to end the night, but as soon as the results stopped coming in, I knew what we were going to get.

Pathetic.


866 posted on 06/05/2012 11:09:38 PM PDT by Beatthedrum
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To: JohnBovenmyer
Do Rats still control the recount process in Wisconsin?

Racine Journal claims 98% vote in with Wangaard BEHIND 825 votes, but County site has him ahead 3000, albeit with about 10k fewer total votes.

867 posted on 06/05/2012 11:09:48 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: Beatthedrum
Damn Straight.
868 posted on 06/05/2012 11:11:07 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

The Secretary of State is a Dem - Doug La Follette


869 posted on 06/05/2012 11:14:17 PM PDT by profit_guy
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To: profit_guy

Looks like a RECOUNT to me.

Will check back in the morning for any updates.

Goodnight all.

I live in CA and I haven’t even checked the results here from our Primary. It’s now an Open Primary, so the Republicans are as good as finished since the Top two Candidates, regardless of Party, move to the General Election.

CA is East Germany without the Wall..


870 posted on 06/05/2012 11:17:25 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Confucius say, short note better than long memory....)
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To: profit_guy
Probably not at all, by itself. According to the Milwaukee fishwrap,
In November, 16 of the 33 Senate seats are up for election. But the Wanggaard-Lehman race could be significant if the Legislature returns for a special session between now and then.
So I gather a regular session ain't happening until after that.
871 posted on 06/05/2012 11:19:36 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: profit_guy

you know more than me. but, it feels like this country was their fraud target all along. it was their most likely senate win from what i’ve read and if the state election came down to a few thousand votes, it’s plausible they could have stolen them here. that’s why i hope walker is on the case, but who knows.


872 posted on 06/05/2012 11:20:35 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: profit_guy

Looks like a RECOUNT to me.

Will check back in the morning for any updates.

Goodnight all.

I live in CA and I haven’t even checked the results here from our Primary. It’s now an Open Primary, so the Republicans are as good as finished since the top two Candidates, regardless of Party, move to the General Election. The only exception is President / Vice President.

CA is East Germany without the Wall..


873 posted on 06/05/2012 11:21:05 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Confucius say, short note better than long memory....)
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To: profit_guy

With just the Senate they can’t undo what’s done, but they can block any new bills, I presume any new appointments, and otherwise gum up the works. A 2 seat Rat senate majority in Iowa has been a royal pain and IIRC one of their seats was won by less than 50 votes. The potential saving grace is there will be more senate seats up in the fall so this blockade may be short lived. I’d love to have Walker expose the presumed fraud in Racine, but I don’t think that is his style.


874 posted on 06/05/2012 11:22:07 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: dadfly

RACINE — With the power of the state Senate hanging in the balance, only the 21st Senate District recall election remained undecided Tuesday.

As of press time, former state Sen. John Lehman, D-Racine leads state incumbent Republican Sen. Van Wanggaard, with 34,412 votes to Wanggaard’s 33,965 votes, according to unofficial results with 58 of 60 precincts reporting.

Lehman declared victory early today, after Wanggaard had ended the evening by saying they’d look at results in the morning.

http://www.journaltimes.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/as-republicans-see-victory-lehman-declares-win/article_90a8c3ae-af76-11e1-ba46-0019bb2963f4.html


875 posted on 06/05/2012 11:22:29 PM PDT by profit_guy
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Oh, good grief.

The 21st district was one of those redrawn in the last redistricting, but this election was conducted using the old district maps.

According to a Tweet by Robin Vos just now, Lehman the ‘rat candidate LOST in the precincts that will be in the redrawn district, so he would be representing an area that didn’t vote for him, not the area that did.

This is crazy.


876 posted on 06/05/2012 11:29:36 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: profit_guy

yeah. what a shock. they always declare victory no matter what. it’s interesting to me that the jsonline has walker with ~41000 votes and a fairly substantial lead over the dem in racine. so why the difference between him and wanggaard’s 35K? so 5000 people who voted for walker just didn’t vote for wanggaard. it’s a mystery. but i guess we’ll know more in the morning.


877 posted on 06/05/2012 11:30:36 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Hunton Peck

According to the MJ-S:

State Senate - District 21 - Special General
June 06, 2012 - 01:51AM CT
Wisconsin - 60 of 60 Precincts Reporting - 100%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Lehman , John Dem 36,255 51%
Wanggaard , Van (i) GOP 35,476 49%


878 posted on 06/05/2012 11:55:48 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: All

I just woke up and decided to get online and see how the final state senate race was going.

$#&!

Before I went to bed, I kept looking at Racine County and saying “Why the hell are they taking so long to count the ballots?”

I hope the GOP can clearly prove that voter fraud made the difference in this race.


879 posted on 06/06/2012 12:58:04 AM PDT by MplsSteve (Amy Klobuchar is no moderate. She's Al Franken with a nicer smile.)
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To: MplsSteve

Anyone know if voter turnout in Racine exceeded 100%?


880 posted on 06/06/2012 3:18:17 AM PDT by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: NE Cons

‘Damn, makes you wish she entered the POTUS race... Ahhh what could have been...’

Yep and even when she is not the presidential nomineee she still has the power to march in and WHOMEVER she beknights is tha WINNNAH....!! The Sarahnator...works her magic yet another time! AUUU RAH...! You just cant keep a good Woman down...


881 posted on 06/06/2012 3:50:27 AM PDT by jimsin
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To: onyx; STARWISE; SE Mom; maggief; penelopesire

Think what the win percentage would have been without the voter fraud.....Hope there are some examples made of those that were caught.


882 posted on 06/06/2012 3:58:04 AM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: houeto
96% in and still 58% - 41%. When does the turn over happen Pollster?

I was wrong, and I can't explain why based on anything logical other than various facets of liberal/union corruption. Whether I was wrong because people in the last liberal areas to report lied to pollsters more than usual out of fear of union thugs, or I was wrong because the usual ballot box stuffing was skipped with Walker's margin so large, the outcome was far better than I expected. It turned out 6% above my best case scenario, leaving me wondering if that might be a measure of the normal amount of Dem vote fraud.

We have to be vigilant in November. If that election is closer, those 6% of voters who are fictional, dead, or otherwise not eligible to vote are likely to show up in any polling place that we don't watch closely.

883 posted on 06/06/2012 4:26:31 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A boy becomes a man when a man is needed - John Steinbeck)
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2010 - District 21 [State Sen. undervotes - 1,045]
Wanggaard 32036
Lehman 28930

Walker 40813
Barrett 31333

2012 - District 21 [State Sen. undervotes - 1,127]
Wanggaard 35476
Lehman 36255

Walker 45480
Barrett 40191

The fraud is palpable. Wisconsin, do not seat Lehman.

884 posted on 06/06/2012 4:38:12 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: Beatthedrum

If we knew the demoncraps were bussing in illegal voters from Michigan did we get photo evidence of bus after bus and if not why not?IT’s not enogh to make claims we need absolute proof that we can stick up the butts of the DBM who won’t report it.I hope Rush will at least mention this.


885 posted on 06/06/2012 4:47:02 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: dadfly; All

Read up on SCYTL if you think WIS fraud is bad guess who will be counting the votes come Nov. I’ll give you a clue they are not from this country.


886 posted on 06/06/2012 4:52:12 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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In terms of percentage, Barrett rose approximately 4% from 2010 to 2012, 43-47. Lehman only rose 3%, 47-50.

Yet that 1% is also approximately the margin of Lehman's fraud (as undervoting remained a constant), so that many Walker voters -- just under 1,000 -- voted for Lehman.

Which is absurd on its face UNLESS you consider that of maybe 2,000 bused-in voters (of the +10765 total State Sen. votes from 2010 to 2012), half couldn't figure out who they were supposed to vote for at the top of the ticket, or were told in the bus to 'mix it up' in a feeble attempt to avoid fraud detection.

The only thing left is to do a ward-by-ward breakdown of the Racine city vote, and it'll show where the buses parked and unloaded.

887 posted on 06/06/2012 5:00:55 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: StAnDeliver

Shoot, don’t we have pictures of the so-called buses with license plates? Where’s a YOU-tuber when you need one?


888 posted on 06/06/2012 5:31:12 AM PDT by madison10 (I can see November from Wisconsin.)
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To: StAnDeliver

If there are that many bussed in voters which would not surprise me at all I can’t believe it can’t be documented with video or at least stills.


889 posted on 06/06/2012 6:39:24 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: madison10

Exactly, or if nothing else which bus line did they use? Who[aid for it? Where are the drivers to be interviewed? etc. etc.,!!We are not rookies we should be getting this job done!!


890 posted on 06/06/2012 6:41:35 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Kickass Conservative
I live in CA and I haven’t even checked the results here from our Primary. It’s now an Open Primary, so the Republicans are as good as finished since the top two Candidates, regardless of Party, move to the General Election. The only exception is President / Vice President.

I live in Los Angeles and only briefly went on the State website to try and make sense of yesterday's election.
We are done. A controlled communist state, with a controlled outcome. I so want to move but it is going to just sweep across the nation...sigh.

891 posted on 06/06/2012 6:47:22 AM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: STARWISE; All; AliVeritas

Truth is the video evidence may still be out there for any of us who know how to access the many highway cameras in the areas where the busses most likely crossed from state to state. With the right stuff you could get license plates,lots of stuff from there.


892 posted on 06/06/2012 7:07:39 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Pollster1
I was wrong, and I can't explain why based on anything logical other than various facets of liberal/union corruption.

No, you weren't. It is I that stand corrected. I watched the results into the wee hours. They kept changing and changing, even with all precincts reporting. He only one by 7 points and one of the senators lost. (Racine, imagine that)

Come on voter I.D.!

893 posted on 06/06/2012 7:20:13 AM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Beatthedrum

Is there somewhere on line that we can see the districts in Van Wanggaard’s area that show what is in and what isn’t?


894 posted on 06/06/2012 8:30:32 AM PDT by Wisconsinlady (GOV. WALKER WINS AGAIN!!! MUSIC TO MY EARS!!!)
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To: profit_guy

” GOP needs to research every “new voter” who registered today. Probably at least a couple of thousand were bused in from MI to Racine.”

I figure 2000+ fraudulent votes too!


895 posted on 06/06/2012 11:29:42 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Nasher
Wisconsin Recall Winning Moment

Many thanks for the video. Am passing it on. Americana. .

Let's hope we see it again on November 6, 2012!!

896 posted on 06/06/2012 12:17:34 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: houeto

T.C.B.E.M.M.S.


897 posted on 06/06/2012 2:22:10 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired high up in the mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy; Agamemnon; Alamo-Girl; xzins
If it wouldn't look so gauche, I'd suggest that the GOP should dump Romney now, and pick Walker for Pres by acclaim from the floor.

/I wish

"If wishes were horses, beggars would ride."

Methinks that you are not seeing "the big picture" here, and so are fighting the wrong battle....

FWIW, JMHO.

898 posted on 06/11/2012 10:05:07 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop; Agamemnon; Alamo-Girl; xzins
Sorry BB, but fighting socialism is never the wrong battle. If you don't get that, well, there's probably nothing we can do for you.
899 posted on 06/11/2012 10:40:24 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
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To: Yashcheritsiy; betty boop; Agamemnon; Alamo-Girl; P-Marlowe
wrong battle

For the wrong reason, perhaps, I agree with BB on this one Yash.

The Republicans are not my party and Romney is not my candidate. He is not now, nor has he ever been a conservative.

And, to be honest with you, the Republican Party is not a conservative party. It is another liberal party. In fact, I consider it to be a descendant of Mussolini's fascist tendencies toward social corporatism.

That movement has always been in conflict with international socialism of the variety espoused by one Barack Obama. One would think that fascism and communism would have been able to work together, but their disagreement has always been quite simply over who got to be in power.

That, too, is the only thing separating the republicans and democrats: turf wars over who gets to be in power and spend the treasury.

Those who support the republicans are, to put it simply, duped.

900 posted on 06/11/2012 10:55:19 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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