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Live Stream of Holder testifying before Issa's committee
http://mfile.akamai.com/65764/live/reflector:39480.asx?bkup=39655&prop=n ^ | 06/07/12

Posted on 06/07/2012 6:38:53 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Grabbing popcorn. This should be fun.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fandftestimony; fandftestimonylive; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; holdertestimonylive; ice; murdergate; obama; sourcetitlenoturl
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

IT is on Cspan
http://www.c-span.org/Events/Judiciary-Oversight-Hearing-Spotlight-Fast-and-Furious/10737431314-1/


51 posted on 06/07/2012 8:37:47 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: sweetiepiezer

Hey, Maxine Waters. Wasted time.


52 posted on 06/07/2012 8:38:28 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Rep Waters: My attention has been diverted.

[Who is waving the shiny object?]


53 posted on 06/07/2012 8:38:43 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Dang, the guy just asked my question...and his time was up before he got an answer

btw,
If you need an ID to get into a Federal Building..isn’t that being discriminatory against those same people


54 posted on 06/07/2012 8:39:47 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: GlockThe Vote

I suspect the gentleman from Utah is gonna rip him a new one...been huddling with Issa for 15 minutes. See tag...


55 posted on 06/07/2012 8:42:04 AM PDT by halfright (FAST & FURIOUS! DON'T ALLOW THEM TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION.)
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To: RummyChick

btw,
If you need an ID to get into a Federal Building..isn’t that being discriminatory against those same people
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Notice Holder thinks some ‘rights’ are more important that others.


56 posted on 06/07/2012 8:42:30 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: halfright

Is Issa’s hottie aide there?


57 posted on 06/07/2012 8:43:05 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: RummyChick

Read somewhere that Moosechelle had a book signing yesterday and a photo ID was required for entrance.


58 posted on 06/07/2012 8:43:53 AM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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To: struggle

I did not see her today yet but I was not really paying attention....streaming cspan on a 57 inch and doing emails while listening.

My mom corrupted me...has me watching and DVRing CSpan. Sheesh.


59 posted on 06/07/2012 8:46:34 AM PDT by halfright (FAST & FURIOUS! DON'T ALLOW THEM TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Typical sample of the past 15 min:

“Mr. Att Gen, we asked you for some stuff in April of last year, 14 months ago, and you didn’t get it to us. Can you promise now that you’ll make a good faith effort to get that stuff to us? Pretty please?”

“Sure, whatever.”


60 posted on 06/07/2012 8:51:13 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (God-issued, not govt-issued.)
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To: Lady Lucky

GO GO GOMERT


61 posted on 06/07/2012 8:56:07 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: struggle

He’s ripping him another one!


62 posted on 06/07/2012 8:57:59 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Gohmert! Now that is more like it. You gave stuff to terrorist supporters but won’t give it to us.
Gohmert’s comments and questions are 24k gold. Later on, will post a link to a video. Priceless.


63 posted on 06/07/2012 9:00:06 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (God-issued, not govt-issued.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

did you all see Holder wiping his brow.


64 posted on 06/07/2012 9:00:06 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

We’ll find out who authorized F&F right after we find out who hired Craig Livingstone.


65 posted on 06/07/2012 9:01:34 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms for the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Roccus

66 posted on 06/07/2012 9:04:07 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: struggle

The tool now reading the prepared document for him to read is the fool who was worried that Guam would capsize if too many troops were landed there. This fool has not a clue of what he’s reading into the record. He’s the perfect democrat.


67 posted on 06/07/2012 9:06:29 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: RummyChick

No, I missed it.....but he’s constantly shifting papers on the desk. He looks very uncomfortable and defiant.


68 posted on 06/07/2012 9:06:40 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: MHGinTN

Conyers was CONSTANTLY interrupting and told to shut up. What a fiasco.


69 posted on 06/07/2012 9:08:58 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Ooooooh, he has letters of support for Holder.


70 posted on 06/07/2012 9:09:30 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Rep. Hank Johnson can’t spit out a coherent sentence despite his over the top efforts at being erudite. What a buffoon.


71 posted on 06/07/2012 9:10:26 AM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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To: struggle

Ooooooh, he has letters of support for Holder.
_________________________________________________________

*rolls eyes*

Did you hear the quip the moderator made? Hahahaha!


72 posted on 06/07/2012 9:11:16 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: BillyBonebrake

Voter Fraud - ZERO PROSECUTIONS


73 posted on 06/07/2012 9:11:40 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: RummyChick
"I don’t understand why black people can’t get an ID to vote."

Or why Obama and Holder don't care that these non-ID minorities can't get their life-saving medications and thus are dying in the street.

Where is their compassion????

74 posted on 06/07/2012 9:15:32 AM PDT by cookcounty ("We're all born idiots, and we only get over that condition as we get less young." -J Goldberg)
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To: cookcounty
Or why Obama and Holder don't care that these non-ID minorities can't get their life-saving medications and thus are dying in the street. Where is their compassion????

Well, if the stupid libs had the brains of a mosquito, they'd see that Obama cares about Obama and to hell with everyone else.

75 posted on 06/07/2012 9:19:51 AM PDT by Marathoner (If the choice was Obama vs. Satan I'd have to flip a coin.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Ooooooh, he has letters of support for Holder.

Entirely appropriate for a Sentencing Hearing.

76 posted on 06/07/2012 9:22:12 AM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Completely! I’m working at home today and have the hearing running on my personal LT...


77 posted on 06/07/2012 9:22:42 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: All

Here we go...The gentleman from Utah...This should be one entertaining 5 minutes


78 posted on 06/07/2012 9:23:02 AM PDT by halfright (FAST & FURIOUS! DON'T ALLOW THEM TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION.)
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To: halfright

I LOVE the gentleman from UT! Every time I hear him! A patriot!


79 posted on 06/07/2012 9:24:16 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: halfright

Someone needs to just yell at him, “STOP LYING AND OBFUSCATING!”


80 posted on 06/07/2012 9:25:53 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: cookcounty

Barbara Lee, the smartest woman in the room (NOT) is interrupting the Republican Congressman who’s trying to ask question of Holder. She won’t shut up.

Republicans, grow a pair NOW!!!!!!!


81 posted on 06/07/2012 9:26:30 AM PDT by jayrunner
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To: struggle

Lol, Eric is doubling down on a busted hand.


82 posted on 06/07/2012 9:28:03 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: struggle

Eric Holder got caught lying.

He’s gotta be sh*tting heis drawers now. If the New Media picks up that clip of him lying to Chaffetz.


83 posted on 06/07/2012 9:32:05 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Borax Queen

Someone needs to serve him with contempt papers. NOW. TODAY. How long do you have to respond to a subpoena?? When you feel like it?? or not at all??

Where the hell is the outrage?? The highest law ENFORCEMENT man in the country is flippin off congressional subpaena!

Damn, this is aggravating.


84 posted on 06/07/2012 9:33:51 AM PDT by halfright (FAST & FURIOUS! DON'T ALLOW THEM TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION.)
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To: struggle; TomGuy
Hmmmm ......

Ethics Case Against Congresswoman to Resume

6/6/12 WASHINGTON — Leaders of the House Ethics Committee said Wednesday that they would move ahead with a long-delayed inquiry into allegations of impropriety by Representative Maxine Waters after concluding that committee missteps had not denied Ms. Waters a fair hearing in the case.

Ethics investigators accuse her of improperly trying to facilitate federal bailout financing and do special favors for a Boston-based bank, OneUnited, at a time when her husband had stock in the company worth about $200,000.

Maxine Waters Ethics Case: 6 Committee Members Recuse Themselves Los Angeles Times ^ | Richard Simon - Friday, February 17, 2012 3:05:05 PM

The tumultuous ethics case against Rep. Maxine Waters, one of Los Angeles’ most enduring politicians, took another strange turn Friday as six members of the House Ethics Committee recused themselves from considering the charges against her.

Committee Chairman Jo Bonner (R-Ala.) said that all five of the panel’s Republicans, including himself, and one Democrat were taking the unusual action of recusing themselves from further involvement in the long-running Waters case "out of an abundance of caution and to avoid even an appearance of unfairness." Six new House members immediately were named to the bipartisan panel to consider all matters related to the Waters case.

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Maxine Waters’ Ethics Trial Stalls. Again. (Who Is Surprised?) | July 23, 2011 | Patrick Richadson

Waters threatens to sue the House Ethics Committee for mishandling her case.

It’s notable that Waters is not asking for the case to be dismissed on the merits, but only because she claims she can no longer get a fair trial.

Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chairman of the Financial Services Committee, said in an interview that he inserted the provision for minority banks to protect OneUnited — because it is based in his state.

The provision sought by Waters — and inserted by Frank — told the Treasury Department that it should consider — for bailout money — banks that had an asset size of $1 billion or less, and whose size dropped to a lower range because they owned devalued preferred stock in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

The only bank that language would affect was OneUnited.

Waters is accused of using her influence to gain special treatment for Massachusetts-based bank OneUnited, which received $12 million in bailout funds. Changing a law was required in order to get them the money. Her husband, former Ambassador Sidney Williams, owned more than $350,000 in stock in the bank, and had also been a board member.

Rep. Maxine Waters wants ethics charges dropped

Citing “gross misconduct,” the lawyer representing Democratic Congresswoman Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) is asking the House Ethics Committee to dismiss all charges against his client.

In a letter addressed to the chairman of the House Ethics Committee, Republican Jo Bonner of Alabama, and the committee's top Democrat, Linda Sanchez, Waters' attorney Stanley Brand cited internal documents showing a close relationship between two former committee lawyers in the case and Republican committee members, saying “any further action by the committee would be “irremediably tainted and without legal foundation.”

Rep. Waters is a senior member of the House Financial Services Committee. The committee alleges that she tried to obtain a federal bailout for a minority-owned bank where her husband is an investor.

“Based on the facts of the case and the record of committee misconduct, the only remedy that vindicates the principals of the quasi-judicial functions of the committee is immediate dismissal with prejudice. No other remedy exists to cure this misconduct,” Atty. Brand wrote.

Rep. Waters has repeatedly denied wrongdoing, saying she had no role in the Obama administration's decision to bail out Boston-based OneUnited Bank. The congresswoman's husband, Sidney Williams, owns stock in the bank, and his investment was in danger of becoming worthless during the near-financial collapse of late 2008.

OneUnited received $12 million in bailout money in December 2008. But Treasury Department officials have told House investigators that Rep. Waters was not involved in that decision.

Rep. Waters contended she had supported legislation to help all troubled, minority-owned banks like OneUnited—and specifically those, like OneUnited, that were hurt by their investments in the then-collapsing mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Atty. Brand said internal documents showed that the two former lawyers regularly corresponded exclusively last year with Rep. Bonner, then the ranking Republican and now the ethics chairman.

The two lawyers, C. Morgan Kim and Stacy Sovereign, were suspended last year by the previous Democratic chairman, Zoe Lofgren of California. Neither accepted Atty. Bonner's offer earlier this year to reinstate them.

The committee had charged Rep. Waters with violating House rules and was ready to begin a proceeding on her conduct late last year, but the case was sent back for further investigation after the controversy erupted over the conduct of the two lawyers.

Atty. Brand said in his statement that if there is prosecutorial misconduct in a criminal case, a judge would usually dismiss the charges. He also said the case was flawed.

“Given that both current members and staff are implicated in these documents, any other suggested remedy would lack legal credibility and would confirm an unprecedented level of bias against my client,” Atty. Brand added.

Meanwhile ethics watchdogs are calling on Rep. Bonner to step down as chairman of the House Ethics Committee—at least temporarily—for his role in the ongoing turmoil over Rep. Waters' case.

“I think there needs to be an investigation into the whole matter, including Mr. Bonner's role and that Mr. Bonner should step aside during the course of that investigation,” said Melanie Sloan, executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

“If Mr. Bonner is found to have broken the committee's rules, he should be sanctioned by the full House.”

2 House ethics attorneys suspended (includes lead attorney on Maxine Waters case)

Blake Chisam, the chief counsel and staff director for the ethics panel, initially sought to fire Kim and Sovereign on Nov. 19, but was unable to do so.

It is unclear if the decision to place Kim and Sovereign on paid leave was related to the Waters’ case or another matter, although they were placed in that status on the same day that Reps. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) and Jo Bonner (R-Ala.), the chairwoman and ranking member of the committee, announced the Waters’ trial was delayed. The committee announced that it had new information, including e-mails from Mikael Moore, Waters' chief of staff, that would have an impact on the Waters’ matter.

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85 posted on 06/07/2012 9:36:32 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: struggle
If the New Media picks up that clip of him lying to Chaffetz.

You mean when he was asserting that an email Chaffetz read was not related to Fast & Furious - even though the email SAID "Fast and Furious"?

That will be replayed a bunch if I were to guess...

86 posted on 06/07/2012 9:37:38 AM PDT by Principled
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To: Principled

Chu is talking about copyrights. Yeah, you busted a guy, in New Zealand, that was never formally charged by the US.


87 posted on 06/07/2012 9:44:36 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: struggle

when will issa go?


88 posted on 06/07/2012 9:46:29 AM PDT by Principled
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To: struggle

It would not surprise me if Eric ‘Just Us’ Holder wrote the prepared document for the poor dunce to read into the record. The poor man is a sad reflex of the demographics of his district.


89 posted on 06/07/2012 9:47:24 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Principled

bkmk


90 posted on 06/07/2012 9:47:23 AM PDT by quickquiver (No, means N O.)
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To: Principled

Holy sh*t I’m going to be happy when Obama is out of office so all this circumlocuting laywer talk will go away somewhat.


91 posted on 06/07/2012 9:50:43 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Has anyone yet commented on the startegic placement of a short skirt and an open clevage behind the lying criminal atty gen.?


92 posted on 06/07/2012 9:52:17 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

Post a screen cap lol.


93 posted on 06/07/2012 9:56:19 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: struggle

Ben Quayle’s going to kick butt.


94 posted on 06/07/2012 9:57:58 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: struggle

ka pow this dude is killing


95 posted on 06/07/2012 10:02:07 AM PDT by Principled
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Saw this tweeted a minute ago: "Rep. Paul Gosar, DDS ‏@RepGosar Votes expected to go late this evening. Instead of a Special Order I will be hosting a press conference on #FastandFurious at 4pm." Anyone know what this means?
96 posted on 06/07/2012 10:03:47 AM PDT by NeverEVERKerry (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Principled

Is that Loretta Sanchez? She’s ballooned like crazy.


97 posted on 06/07/2012 10:03:54 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: struggle

lol not loretta...


98 posted on 06/07/2012 10:05:01 AM PDT by Principled
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To: NeverEVERKerry

Hmmm.


99 posted on 06/07/2012 10:05:38 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: struggle

Quayle was very, VERY good!


100 posted on 06/07/2012 10:06:12 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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