Posted on 06/09/2012 8:31:27 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
Texas Speaker of the House Joe Straus was deleted from the list of delegates to the 2012 Republican National Convention by a woman on the Nominations Committee who put herself on the list in his place.
Strauss is going down, and I hope it is hard...
Are you saying he won’t win the Speaker position or going down some other way?
Only when necessary.
BTW, with all our in-state political problems we have every state in the Northeast beat hands down!
I've never heard that he is related so I'm assuming he isn't. But, IMO, he's just as bad as old Bob!
You all sound like broken records and this has nothing to do with Romney!
Get a life!
You are one sick puppy! When facts don't suit you, just make crap up! You seem to have master the "art." You are full of it!!
Okay, then tell me why the GOP has gone over to supporting illegal aliens?
It's absurd to even imagine that GWB had anything to do with any of this. The issue being discussed deals with the current legislature, which last I heard didn't include GWB! Connecting him to it makes you sound as stupid as Obama!
LOL. You are funny. This story is NOT about the legislature but the GOP platform at the convention. They are giving in to the hispanic caucus whether you agree or not. Why?
By the way, GW DID want spanish spoken all through the U.S.
Did you vote for a "new America"?
| We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture. Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende. For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America. Our future cannot be separated from the future of Latin America. As I speak, we are celebrating the success of democracy in Mexico. George Bush from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000. |
Here is an excerpt of a good critique of that speech:
In equating our intimate historic bonds to our mother country and to Canada with our ties to Mexico, W. shows a staggering ignorance of the civilizational facts of life. The reason we are so close to Britain and Canada is that we share with them a common historical culture, language, literature, and legal system, as well as similar standards of behavior, expectations of public officials, and so on. My Bush Epiphany By Lawrence Auster
One of my observations about Texas politics, and by extension the present governor, is that decisions involving power to politics, which in most states would be low profile, in Texas ends up big and unsubtle, as in a plank in a party platform. This is a payoff to certain business sectors in the state that have provided large cash infusions to Rick Perry.
Texans here at Free Republic brag about conservatism in their state, but there is NOTHING conservative about this: aiding and abetting the violation of Federal Immigration laws in order to reap huge profits from encouraging, employing and protecting illegal aliens.
Texas tries to put up a good front. It’s like the rancher greeting you while on his front porch, shotgun in hand, claiming he’s doing everything he can to stop the invasion, meanwhile his back gate is wide open and the dog is chained.
If I lived in Connecticutt, I'd be out trying to improve things in my own backyard instead of things in states I have no control over.
We are doing a lot better than you, as you know.
It isn't 2000 anymore and GWB isn't POTUS.
So...what do you think about Straus?
He is still serving his district in the house and doing it admirably IMHO.
He should still be speaker if you ask me.
Your village is looking for you!
If Straus gets elected speaker in the upcoming session there will be a political bloodbath in the next election cycle the likes of which few have ever seen.
I didn't blame Bush. I said it was possible that he influenced the platform. Are saying it's IMPOSSIBLE? If so, how?
If I lived in Connecticutt, I'd be out trying to improve things in my own backyard instead of things in states I have no control over.
Funny. How do know what I am doing? It never ceases to amaze how people from Texas think they know everything.
We are doing a lot better than you, as you know.
Perhaps. But we have enough humility so that even if we were doing better we wouldn't be acting like a child, "Nyaa, nyaa, nyaa, nyaa!"
It isn't 2000 anymore and GWB isn't POTUS.
Really? Are U Srius?
So...what do you think about Straus?
I don't give a fig about Straus. I want to know why the Texas GOP leadership is kowtowing to the illegal alien lobby. Straus is not the sole decision maker for the state GOP, is he?
Try looking at this link. When you imply others here are idiots you should check out what they’re talking about first. Especially as you claim on your persoanl page to be interested in being truly free, an impossibility when our laws are being trampled by greed and self interest.
Texas GOP Oks more-lenient immigration platform
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2893371/posts
Check out #58
“... I want to know why the Texas GOP leadership is kowtowing to the illegal alien lobby. Straus is not the sole decision maker for the state GOP, is he?”
Thank you, raybbr. BINGO!
I think he’ll be hard to beat with his power of appointment and the democrats with some 55 +- votes. Maybe it will cause a bloodbath and that wouldn’t be all bad.
I’m not a proponent of term limits but I’m slowly going in that direction. It seems the politicans view service as a lifelong career.
To: pistolpackinpapaYou are forgiven for the doublepost, but not for supporting the liberal Harvard Trial Lawyer over the conservative businessman David Dewhurst.
99 posted on 06/10/2012 2:28:11 PM PDT by ngat
How was that again? "Conservative businessman"? "Liberal Harvard trial lawywer"?
You've got your shoelaces tied together and the Mercedes is out of the garage.
I must inform you again that your concern is misdirected. You can believe or not what I’m about to tell you but the behind the scenes string pullers you are so worried about will NOT be pleased with this platform language. It is NOT what they wanted at all.
They very definitely DO want to see David Dewhurst in the U.S. Senate rather than Ted Cruz however.
Texas Speaker of the House Straus is not a RINO — he doesn’t rise that high ... Straus is just an out and out DEMOCRAT masquerading as a Republican... Texas Conservative Republicans have had the majority in the Texas House this past legislative session but Straus has BLOCKED 99% of everything Conservatives have tried to pass... Straus should become a delegate for obama
Nothing goes through the Texas House unless Straus allows it
I didn't blame Bush. I said it was possible that he influenced the platform. Are saying it's IMPOSSIBLE? If so, how?
You want me to prove a negative? Why don't you prove your point? You don't have one except in your imagination!
You are too ignorant to have a decent discussion.
I haven't been going to FR lately. All you have done is remind me why? You can't even stay on topic! People like you have ruined FR! Don't bother to respond because I won't see it...you're a waste of time because you don't have a clue what you're opining about!
He will be hard pressed to win that Speakership again...I believe there are a lot of people paying attention (finally) to the nonsense that has gone on for the last two sessions...
No more threats, no more of this thugs running around threatening fellow state reps with losing their positions on committees, and any redistricting nonsense...
I really hope some of those that managed to cave into the BS last time realize we are paying attention and that Strauss needs to step away...But we know he won’t do that...
I agree. Strauss has screwed over Republicans by working with the demonrats in our state. He has to go as speaker. He is a effing RINO!
I wish I could have been at the convention. The establishment Republicans are doing their darn best to squelch the Tea Party
Share your sentiments.
I think we need to primary John Cornyn next time around with a strong Tea Party candidate.
Nope. My reading comphrehension is just fine.
“...We seek common ground to develop and advance a conservative, market- and law-based approach...”
“Market-based”? What is that? Upholding the law is too hard on businesses who need the modern version of slave labor from south of the border? If Arizona, a small state by comparison, can address immigration problems in defiance of a lawless DOJ, what is wrong with Texas? Since when is Texas crawling with cowards!
Don’t you recogiize that the rest of us have citizens being murdered by illegal aliens, and we want this crap stopped! We have immigration laws that must be enforced. Revisions are unneeded. Eisenhower did mass deportations, so can we today.
This problem has been festering for a very long time and needs to eliminated by a joint effort by ALL the states.
I am shocked that so-called conservatives in Texas would put such a plank in their party’s state platform. There will be blood on the floor at the convention in Tampa if it is tried there - guaranteed!
The woman has been a volunteer grassroots activist in the Republican Party for 20 years and has served with distinction from Precinct Chair to Secretary of the TX State Party. No one who knows her questions her credentials, and she did the entire convention on her own nickel, like most of the other delegates and alternates. Didn’t get a dime from another soul.
Someone is either lying or quite misinformed. I was there. It was NOT a “VIP” list. The first slate of people nominated for the At-Large Delegate positions were the “Statewide Elected Officials”. The woman who moved to strike Straus from the list argued that he is not a statewide officeholder. She said he is one of 150 State Reps, and if they put him on the list, there would be no room for grassroots delegates when all the other Republican State Reps and State Senators wanted on the list. She agreed that the other names on the slate appear on her ballot, so they should be on the “Statewide Slate”, but Straus was not on her ballot, so he didn’t get an automatic position. Perhaps someone should note that Sen. Steve Ogden was nominated by someone else and was elected to the at-large list, and if someone on that committee would have nominated Straus as a regular delegate, that same argument would have held true. I believe he was removed by a vote of 18 to 12. The woman did NOT, in fact, put herself in Straus’ slot. The second slate of people put on the at-large list was everyone on the committee who stood up to say they wanted to attend the national convention, and she was elected along with all of those committee members. The third slate of people elected were staff members from RPT. Then all other individual names were placed on the lists. No one person did ANYthing. There was a committee of 36 people, chaired by a Parliamentarian, and nothing passed without a majority vote of the committee.
Thanks for this...It’s good information to know.
Awwww... Looky here. Another Texas crybaby. Buh-bye.
"IMMIGRATION
The Texas Solution – Because of decades-long failure of the federal government to secure our borders and address the immigration issue, there are now upwards of 11 million undocumented individuals in the United States today, each of whom entered and remain here under different circumstances. Mass deportation of these individuals would neither be equitable nor practical; while blanket amnesty, as occurred with the Simpson-Mazzoli Act of 1986, would only encourage future violations of the law. We seek common ground to develop and advance a conservative, market- and law-based approach to our nation’s immigration issues by following these principles:1. Secure Our Borders – The U.S. Border must be secured immediately! We demand the application of effective, practical and reasonable measures to secure our borders and to bring safety and security for all Americans along the border and throughout the nation.
2. Modernize the United States Social Security Card – We support the improvement of our 1936 Social Security card to use contemporary anti-counterfeit technology. The social security card will not be considered a National ID card for U.S. citizens.
3. Birthright Citizenship – We call on the Legislative, Executive, and Judicial branches of the United States to clarify Section 1 of the 14th amendment to limit citizenship by birth to those born to a citizen of the United States with no exceptions.
4. Create an Effective and Efficient Temporary Worker Program – A national Temporary Worker Program should be implemented to bring skilled and unskilled workers into the United States for temporary periods of time when no U.S. workers are currently available. Additional program requirements should require:
- This program would be self-funded through participation fees and fines;
- Applicants must pass a full criminal background check;
- Applicants with prior immigration violations would only qualify for the program if they paid the appropriate fines;
- Applicants and/or Employers must prove that they can afford and/or secure private health insurance;
- Applicants must waive any and all rights to apply for financial assistance from any public entitlement programs;
- Applicant must show a proficiency in the English language and complete an American civic class;
- Temporary Workers would only be able to work for employers that deduct and match payroll taxes;
- All participants would be issued an individual Temporary-Worker Biometric Identification Card that tracks all address changes and both civil and criminal court appearances as a defendant."
How anyone can come to the conclusion that this is "supporting illegal immigration" is beyond me!
The first motion was to put a slate of "Statewide Officials" on the list. The list originally contained the names of our Lt. Governor, Attorney General, Comptroller, Land Commissioner, Ag Commissioner, Speaker of the House, and the 3 Railroad Commissioners. My motion was to strike the Speaker of the House from the statewide list on the grounds that he is not elected statewide. I testified that the other 8 officials listed are on my ballot, but the Speaker of the House was not. I also testified respectfully that he is 1 member of a body that has 150 members, and if we put 1 State Rep elected from 1 district on the "statewide" list, we would have to put on every other Republican State Rep or State Senator who wanted to go to National and there would be no room left for the grassroots, who we were elected to represent. I had no power to remove anyone from the list on my own. There was a quorum present of the 36 members of the National Nominations Committee and my motion carried by a vote of 18 to 12 by a proper committee vote.I would also like to offer to you that one of the 12 committee members who was not happy with the outcome of the vote came to me on a break and asked if he were to nominate Joe Straus as a delegate apart from the "Statewide slate", would I vote for him, and I promised I would vote for Straus to be a delegate if he came in under those conditions. That member never nominated Speaker Straus.
The second slate of additions, as is the committee's tradition, was to add to the list the names of anyone on the National Nominations Committee who wanted to go.
“Mass deportation of these individuals would neither be equitable nor practical; while blanket amnesty, as occurred with the Simpson-Mazzoli Act of 1986, would only encourage future violations of the law. “
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Talk about a cheesy false dichotomy! First blanket amnesty is off the table, and “mass deportation” is “spooky talk” to make people like me sound “racist.” The fact of the matter — already well-reported by the MSM — is that when serious immigration-law enforcement is implemented (see AZ SB 1087), many illegals will SELF-DEPORT.
Since this is already known, I can only say that the committee that wrote this had a soft-on-law agenda and that they slid this through.
Apparently Lt-Gov Candidate Jerry Patterson was INSTRUMENTAL in getting this language incorporated into the platform.
Bottom line for voting: Vote for Patterson’s opponent (Todd Staples) for Lt Governor in 2014.
Bottom line long term: In 2014, we need to make sure we “take the platform back” from the amnesty-light crowd.
I agree 100% and that is exactly what this platform language supports!
I will be supporting Jerry Patterson to the best of my ability in the 2014 Lt. Governor's race.
Additional program requirements should require:
This program would be self-funded through participation fees and fines;
Applicants must pass a full criminal background check;
Applicants with prior immigration violations would only qualify for the program if they paid the appropriate fines;
Applicants and/or Employers must prove that they can afford and/or secure private health insurance;
Applicants must waive any and all rights to apply for financial assistance from any public entitlement programs;
Applicant must show a proficiency in the English language and complete an American civic class;
Temporary Workers would only be able to work for employers that deduct and match payroll taxes;
All participants would be issued an individual Temporary-Worker Biometric Identification Card that tracks all address changes and both civil and criminal court appearances as a defendant.”
You seriously think this is amnesty lite?
“How anyone can come to the conclusion that this is “supporting illegal immigration” is beyond me!”
I am not going to address your sentiment, as it probably is by your own account, beyond your understanding.
This is the problem. “...We seek common ground to develop and advance a conservative, market- and law-based approach to our nation’s immigration issues...” There already exists immigration laws! Those laws were voted upon by Congress. The fact that those laws are not being enforced by the Federal Government is the big problem. Why revise something that isn’t utilyzed and isn’t broken?
Conservative is ‘enforcing existing law’, which is missing from the Texas Republican’s party platform. Seeking a “market-based approach...” is evidence present employers of illegal aliens want a pass, so they can continue to exploit cheap labor from south of the border rather than pay U.S. prevailing wages to the unemployed citizens of the U.S. It is typical of a state’s “power to politics” to keep large political donors happy, and it is NOT conservative.
“...there are now upwards of 11 million undocumented individuals in the United States today,..Mass deportation of these individuals would neither be equitable nor practical;..”
On this one, I say bull!
There already exists a means to round-up and mass deport illegal aliens. Homeland Security has plans for evacuating people in the event of emmergencies, and those plans will work perfectly for mass deportations. If Eisenhower could do it, so can we IF we have the will to do so.
“Create an Effective and Efficient Temporary Worker Program”.
Sure sounds good but it has been tried in the past and failed. Enforcement is the key. Such programs in the past allowed people entrance to this country - and they never left.
By the way, back in 1993 when hundreds of thousands of American computer and electrical engineers were out of work, the government was issuing visas to engineers from Asia at the behest of businesses who claimed they couldn’t find American workers. It was nonsense then, just as it is nonsense now.
It is time we, and by that I mean conservatives, stand up for all Americans and stop certain business sectors and the Democratic Party from destroying the United States for their own gain, personal or poltical.
So show me where I, or anything in the platform for that matter, says that we should not enforce existing law. I'll wait.
I happen to believe that doing what the platform suggests would result in most of the people currently here illegally deporting themselves!
Thanks, Paleo.
What are some specific issues on which Cruz is liberal while Dewhurst is conservative?
Dewhurst is the proven conservative on fiscal issues, both spending and tax, the life issue, the Tort Reform issue, foreign issues, immigration issues, the Obamacare issue, the Tenth Amendment issue, etc. etc, & etc.
As for Cruz, who knows? The guy has never, ever served in elective office, not even dog-catcher, and has therefore never taken a recorded vote, never introduced, written, or passed any legislation, has absolutely no executive experience, no military experience no private business experience.
To put a point to it Cruz, HAS NO RECORD! So all you can do is go by his campaign promises, and I hope you know what those are worth!
Well, wait a minute. You’re all over FR, in less than a year, pounding Cruz for being liberal. (You also call him a Harvard trial lawyer, but that applies to Chief Justice Roberts.) How can you call him liberal and simultaneously say he has no record?
“How can you call him liberal and simultaneously say he has no record?”
Easy. When you have a Goldman-Sachs connected Harvard trial lwayer who has never held an elective office, with no record of his own, telling lies about a proven conservative, using the Romney-perfected attack techniques, and using out of state Superpac money and support to tear a good man down, you can safely assume the guy is a liberal!
OK, enough with the reekingly obvious talking points. I started out willing to believe that Dewhurst could be a good guy, but if lackeys like you are any indication, the consensus of FReepers is right on: He’s a RINO with paid turds trolling here.
I asked you for examples of issues on which Dewhurst was conservative while Cruz was liberal.
You didn’t answer that question.
Instead, you changed the subject and avoided it, asserting that Cruz hadn’t been ELECTED to anything yet, and therefore had not taken any “recorded votes.”
Of course, that’s silliness. Cruz has issue and position papers, I’m betting. You know it. You also know, I am betting, that there are comparisons out there of Dewhurst vs. Cruz ON those issues. If Dewhurst’s record is so good, and Cruz’s positions — if not “record,” although I don’t necessarily need to have a Senator with prior elective-office experience — are so “liberal,” then you would offer up one or two examples.
Instead, you run and hide behind “Harvard,” “Goldman Sachs” and “trial lawyer” flash cards.
Listen up, troll. Neither Harvard, nor Goldman Sachs, nor trial lawyer is an intrinsically bad thing. There are many good people at one, two or all three. It is what LEFTISTS do, not conservatives who belong on FR, to substitute that sort of nonsense for analysis. “Oh, he went to Harvard / worked at Goldman / was a trial lawyer, so he just MUST be wrong for us.”
I gave you every chance to supply some issue, even one, on which Dewhurst was conservative and Cruz was not.
You failed and instead showed yourself for what you are.
You’ll reply to this, troll, but I won’t read it.
You’ve been outed. Go find another board to pretend to be a conservative.
I did list the issues where Dewhurst has proven himself conservative, and all you can do is throw out the word “troll” and say I must be a paid staffer for Dewhurst? That, of course, is not true, but it is interesting that nearly every time I start kicking the ass of some dummie who has been suckered by the trial lawyers guild and their attack ads on behalf of Cruz, and I inform them of the truth, all they can think of is “duh, he must be a paid staffer”, maybe I’ll call him a troll and tell him to go away and find another board and then I can stop thinking and won’t have to consider that maybe I had it wrong.
He came on stage under cover of our newly elected State Reps who were being presented to us. He was not announced and gave a 2 minute speech and walked off stage. You could almost say he skulked on. By the time people realized he was up there, folks saw they would have been walking out on their own new Reps. He knows he is not wanted. Bryan Hughes should be selected as the new Speaker when the time comes. He is a solid conservative unlike Straus who is a liberal RINO
This is a Convention of delegates for delegates in the Republican Party. Why should any politician get an automatic pass to go as a National Delegate above We the People of Texas as some sort of Party royalty or some such elitist snobbery. Bully for the woman who had the balls to do it!
It is called The Texas Solution on page 21 and it amounts to an amnesty lite. It sucks that this was pushed thru.
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