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Obama Speeds Up Limited Air Strike, No-Fly Zones Preparations For Syria
Debka ^ | June 11, 2012

Posted on 06/11/2012 5:25:59 AM PDT by Strategy

US President Barack Obama has ordered the US Navy and Air Force to accelerate preparations for a limited air offensive against the Assad regime and the imposition of no-fly zones over Syria, DEBKAfile reports.

Their mission will be to knock out Assad's central regime and military command centers so as to shake regime stability and restrict Syrian army and air force activity for subduing rebel action and wreaking violence on civilian populations.

(Excerpt) Read more at debka.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; assad; bhomiddleeast; debka; falseflagfreepers; islam; israel; middleeast; obama; syria

1 posted on 06/11/2012 5:26:13 AM PDT by Strategy
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To: Strategy

And suppose the Russians decide to get involved.... How “limited” will that be?


2 posted on 06/11/2012 5:31:17 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Strategy

It’s time to set up a Constitutional crisis over War Powers. Congress needs to reassert its authority to declare war. This is getting ridiculous and abusive. We’ve had an Imperial Presidency for far too long.


3 posted on 06/11/2012 5:33:44 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Won’t happen—Boner and the rest of the girls are too afraid of being called racists by the MSM.


4 posted on 06/11/2012 5:38:14 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Journalists first; then lawyers.)
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To: Strategy

Search is your friend.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2893941/posts


5 posted on 06/11/2012 5:38:53 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Strategy

ENOUGH ALREADY!!! This country needs to learn when to stay out of conflicts that’s none of its damned business!!


6 posted on 06/11/2012 5:40:20 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Worst. President. Ever.)
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To: 1010RD

Willing to waste American blood and treasure to create the Third Caliphate via the phony Arab Spring Movement directed by the moslem brotherhood. This is high treason no less.


7 posted on 06/11/2012 5:40:56 AM PDT by STD ([You must help] people in the communityÂ…feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless)
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To: Strategy
Is this source ‘Debka’ reliable? Seem to recall many Freepers ridiculing this source in the past?
8 posted on 06/11/2012 5:49:51 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Strategy
Ah yes, our Islamic-Jihadist-appeasing/defending/enabling/supporting Dear Leader is "Accelerating Preparations" to facilitate his "buds" (Mooselimb Bruder-hood) takeover (the same as he did in Egypt and Libya) of yet another Mid East Country.....

....as he continues to facilitate the takeover (via "Civilization/Stealth Jihad") of our very own United States by appointing/welcoming those who support Terrorism (and have vowed to "Destroy our miserable house from within") as advisers/confidants.

Nuttin' to see here folks; just move along.....

....oh, AND DON'T FORGET, Mittens is TEN (10) TIMES more eeeevil, dangerous and more of a "THREAT" to our Security, Safety and Survival....so y'all might just as well stay home come November....!

9 posted on 06/11/2012 5:51:57 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: Strategy

And what was the strategic interest of the U.S. in all this?


10 posted on 06/11/2012 6:05:36 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: Strategy
Please understand—Dear Reader HAS TO do this given his loyalties and prejudices.

The otherwise genuinely evil Assad regime has one terrible “flaw”. The regime protected Christians from the wonderful IslamoFascists who wanted to burn the churches and kill the Christians.

11 posted on 06/11/2012 6:08:35 AM PDT by Sal (STAND YOUR GROUND laws are the prosecutor's target--GZ is collateral damage.)
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To: Strategy

Hussein is determined to create as much chaos as possible in the most dangerous part of the world.


12 posted on 06/11/2012 6:45:25 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Strategy
Assad protects Christian and other minority populations because Assad himself is minority Alawite (which is a minority within Shi'ism).
Assad is otherwise a brutal dictator. If he is overthrown he will be replaced by a Sunni brutal SHARIA dictatorship in which minorities are persecuted and eventually driven out or exterminated.
Obama is Sunni.
13 posted on 06/11/2012 7:02:58 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: rawhide

DEBKA has had a tendency to publish wrong calls based on info they receive that they put out before they get confirmation or they report sparks they have noticed that do not develop. They also hit the target dead on sometimes.


14 posted on 06/11/2012 7:06:47 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: Strategy; Arm_Bears

Air strikes into Syria will not be as easy as Libya. The Syrian air defense is quite potent and designed/trained to defend against an Israeli attack, something the Libyans didn’t have to plan against. Thus needing extensive SEAD missions against the SA-5s, SA-6s, etc, which could be costly. Though not an exact comparission, think of the air defenses around Hanoi and Haiphong during the Vietnam war and the losses we took on those SEAD missions.

Flying air strikes against Syria will not, repeat NOT, be the “cake walk” that Libya was.


15 posted on 06/11/2012 7:44:45 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Strategy

Say it ain’t so.


16 posted on 06/11/2012 7:49:24 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Inwoodian
And what was the strategic interest of the U.S. in all this?

To the extent we have an interest in this dispute, it would be in preventing yet another Sunni Arab* (i.e. the religion and ethnicity of the folks who conducted attacks against the WTC in 1993 and 2001) regime from coming to power. However, that would mean conducting drone attacks *against* the Sunni rebels instead of intervening in their favor.

17 posted on 06/11/2012 8:02:00 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: GreyFriar
Air strikes into Syria will not be as easy as Libya. The Syrian air defense is quite potent and designed/trained to defend against an Israeli attack, something the Libyans didn’t have to plan against. Thus needing extensive SEAD missions against the SA-5s, SA-6s, etc, which could be costly. Though not an exact comparission, think of the air defenses around Hanoi and Haiphong during the Vietnam war and the losses we took on those SEAD missions.

Flying air strikes against Syria will not, repeat NOT, be the “cake walk” that Libya was.

I suspect stealth takes care of that practical problem. I don't think the real problem is practical. The issue is whether it's wise to put another Muslim Brotherhood regime in power. The Shah was no great humanitarian, but as tyrants go, he was a pale shadow of Khomeini. As a bonus, he was also somewhat friendly to our interests. Iran's pet terrorist group is Hezbollah, whereas the Muslim Brotherhood is merely the civilian wing of Al Qaeda (al Qaeda's number 1, Zawahiri, was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, and al Qaeda's inspiration Sayyid Qutb, was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood). What we have in Syria is a semi-hostile government that really hasn't done much in the way of killing Americans. Why would we want to replace that with a regime run by a movement (the Muslim Brotherhood) that delights in slaughtering large numbers of Americans?

18 posted on 06/11/2012 8:15:36 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: GreyFriar
I don't disagree with what you say, however, we took out Libya's "eyes/ears" with stand-off weapons. Upwards of 200 Tomahawks. Then pinpoint bombing. Wherever Qaddaffi tried to bring up his commo? Boom!

But I do agree that Syria has 100s of AA Weapons.

Our laser guided bombs took out the Thanh Hoa Bridge in 1972, after bombing it with conventional bombs for 7 years prior...Syria would be no cake walk, but it can be done. Obi needs to do something. Maybe another "Monica bombing?"

19 posted on 06/11/2012 8:40:55 AM PDT by donozark (The 7th Wisconsin had more men killed in battle than any other Union Regiment.)
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To: donozark; Zhang Fei

Tomahawks and stand off systems yes. stealth, since the F-117 is retired, the F-35 still trying to make it into production and the F-22 designed for air superoirity and having problems with its oxygen systems, are “No Go.”

My main point is that Syria will not be as easy as Libya from an air war aspect. The land options are: 1 - to go in through the small area of Syrian coast line and fight our way to Damascus; 2 - land in Lebanon and fight (?) our way through it to get to Syria; 3 - go in through Israel and that opens up, I can’t even begin to imagine what.


20 posted on 06/11/2012 8:52:09 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar
Too many Russians for "land options." Too many Iranians as well. I suspect NATO Air, as in Libya, and some combination of Turks/French, etc. to secure "safe areas" for Syrian civilians. Or try to. But any/all options are subject to major fail.

Have the Brits/US re-built their Tomahawk supplies since Libya attacks?

21 posted on 06/11/2012 9:00:28 AM PDT by donozark (The 7th Wisconsin had more men killed in battle than any other Union Regiment.)
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To: GreyFriar
Tomahawks and stand off systems yes. stealth, since the F-117 is retired, the F-35 still trying to make it into production and the F-22 designed for air superoirity and having problems with its oxygen systems, are “No Go.”

B-2's are still available, and they were used over Libya.

My main point is that Syria will not be as easy as Libya from an air war aspect. The land options are: 1 - to go in through the small area of Syrian coast line and fight our way to Damascus; 2 - land in Lebanon and fight (?) our way through it to get to Syria; 3 - go in through Israel and that opens up, I can’t even begin to imagine what.

I don't think there's a land option - it's a career-ending political stinker for any politician who endorses it. If our elites could be counted on to pick someone simultaneously good for Syria's non-Sunnis and our interests to succeed Assad, I'd favor intervention. However, our sorry record in Iraq (Maliki) and Afghanistan (Karzai) leads me to believe that such hopes are chimerical.

22 posted on 06/11/2012 9:11:31 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: donozark; Zhang Fei

my bottom line is that intervention into Syria is a Kobyashimaru scenario that even James Tiberias Kirk could not find a winning scenairo option, even in rigging the game.


23 posted on 06/11/2012 12:43:32 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

You are 100% correct. If anyone wants to argue, then they should look at Libya, which is turned into a hellhole.


24 posted on 06/11/2012 7:36:57 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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