Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!
Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)
Posted on 06/11/2012 6:57:10 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
There is a certain tiresome message we’ve all heard: the notion that the Republican and Democratic parties are the same. It’s often put forth by people who consider themselves outside-the-box thinkers, and they fancy their point of view the enlightened one. Sometimes cynical George Carlin types, their message is, “Hey, I’m smart enough to know both parties are playin’ the game. Don’t try to fool me!”
This attitude was apparent in a few of the comments under a recent piece I wrote about liberal immorality. One respondent opined, for instance, “What still amazes [me] is that there has been definite documentation about the lack of morals that all politicians have. Neither side can claim to be exempt from this. Yet, there seems to be this arrogance among the right, that they can explain away any misgivings that a Republican does.”
Now, the first thing to mention here is that my article’s focus was on ideology — liberalism and conservatism — far more than party. However, since these ideologies are associated with, respectively, the Democrats and Republicans, whatever differences the ideologies breed will also manifest themselves in the parties to a great extent. More significantly, though, my piece was not mainly about politicians but liberals in general. This is significant because you can find a given fault in any group, but this doesn’t mean that it characterizes the group. So, sure, there are bad politicians everywhere, one in every bunch. But how do the rank-and-file react? Do they demand a degree of virtue from their leaders or only a degree of success? Let’s examine it.
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The party elites are blending. Dems are worse but they both spend too much.
The problem with both parties is that they no longer fear God nor their constituents, so yes they are one and the same!
http://www.youtube.com/user/polyphemus777
The GOPe is merely the Demoncraps’ “away jersey”.
Sorry, no sale!
Get back to me when they quit putting up lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberals like Romney for POTUS.
You judge the Party by their base, using that standard no sane person could ever say they are the same, not even close!
No, the author is wide off the mark.
When Republicans behaved just like Democrats, (if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, ....) why is it wrong to call them out? Look closely, Republicans have not been practicing their ideology for how many decades now?
I don’t consider myself ‘outside-the-box thinker’ or ‘the enlightened one’. That attitude from the author is ‘tiresome’.
Once they get a taste of life inside the lines of separation become blurred. The two parties are like Pepsi and Coke: while they sometimes do battle with a special promotion they are happy to maintain their own market share and will work together to keep Dr. Pepper out of their house.
Good analogy, Bn.
the parties might not be the same...
but the progressives in both parties sure are
No, they are not the same.
The republicans have supported tyrannical, socialistic, Big Nanny Government only to the first or second power.
The democrats push for TOTAL tyrannical, socialistic, Big Nanny Government - and they have been winning the battle for more than 50 years.
Much of the republican success at the federal level can usually be traced to disgusted voters picking the least worst of two really bad options.
The democrat party cannot be saved - it is too far gone.
The republican party could be saved if they keep their oaths of office and would listen to voters, especially Tea Party and other conservatives.
But establishment republicans are fighting to keep out new blood and conservative idealism.
They would rather protect their position, perks, wealth and power than do what is right for America.
Without a miraculous change in direction both parties are both doomed and will soon both be history anyway - along with the rest of us.
Once they can no longer prop up the economy with borrowed money and fiat currency it will all come crashing down and the survivors will start anew.
I don’t buy the premise that the parties are the same any more than the one that Romney is just as bad as Obama. I’m no fan of Mitt Romney by a long shot, but he doesn’t believe a mixture of Marxist, socialist, and fascist ideologies like President Obama. Also, despite the fact that there are moderate Republicans who collude with the left, there are also some good conservatives. It’s pretty clear the conservatives are simply outnumbered. I remember Bush doing quite a bit of arm twisting in his own party to pass his “compassionate” agenda.
The GOP is the political version of “The Washington Generals”.
That's because we ARE the enlightened ones.
A perfect analogy.
Even intellectual Pygmies like the Obamas could grasp the concept presented that way.
LOL; hadn’t thought of them! Good one!
Both parties may not be the same, but there are too many in the GOP who by all rights ought to be in the treasoncrat party.
Examples:
juan mclame
lindsey grahamesty
olympia snowe
susan collins
Etc
Etc
Etc
Then there is the GOP “leadership” who are closet communists who keep pushing these limp wristed panty wetting RINO’s.
We tell them that we want a Reagan style conservative, they tell us the era of Reagan is dead and give us juan mclame.
We tell them to support those who are supported by the Tea Party, they tell us that we have to support wishy washy RINO’s because conservatives can’t get elected.
Round and round it goes every election cycle.
Very good analogy; nicely done.
No. You judge a party by it’s fruits. What we’ve gotten from Republicans is an ever growing Federal Government and shrinking liberty.
“No. You judge a party by it’s fruits. What we’ve gotten from Republicans is an ever growing Federal Government and shrinking liberty.”
That is leadership, not the party, the base and the platform are the party.
In the rank and file. In the leadership, not so much.
>> What we’ve gotten from Republicans is <<
John Roberts, Sam Alito, Nino Scalia and Clarence Thomas.
‘Nuff said!
Yes, and would these folks rather have four more Ginsburgs, Sotomayors or Kagans?
Yes, there are similarities. Still, though, there’s no comparison between the two parties.
There is a difference. Under Republicans, Wall Street does good and Main Street doesn’t. Under Democrats, Wall Street does good and Main Street doesn’t. See?
Of course, they’re different.
Democrats are evil.
Republicans are stupid and spineless.
Both seem to be intent on spending us into penury.
Neither is upholding the Constitution. Neither is working for the betterment of the United States. Neither is looking out for American citizens. Neither can pass up an opportunity to line their pockets no matter who it hurts. Nope, sorry, don’t see a difference between the two.
The platform - don’t make me puke. I’d be surprised if 1 in 10 republican office holders have even read the platform let alone feel bound by it.
And Souter and Kennedy (half the time).
Not NEARLY ‘Nuff said!!
They’re not the same, but...the party establishment of each has no fundamental values except perpetuation and aggrandizement of its national party. It is only the ‘fringe’ members of either party that speak out and stand up for fundamental principles of their party.
“The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. Republicans are the party that says government doesn’t work, and then they get elected and prove it.”-
P. J. O’Rourke
I do not think "Democrat Values" are the same.
To name a few existing differences.
Your argument is completely moot. Thanks to Roberts, the latest in the long line of failed Republican court appointees, the work of the court is now complete. There is no Constitutional limit to Congress doing anything it pleases. So it is completely irrelevant who the next nominee is.
There are other reasons to elect Romney but picking the next SCCOTUS justice isn’t one of them. It just doesn’t matter.
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