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Zimmerman 'does not properly respect the law,' judge says in order revoking bond
Orlando Sentinal ^ | June 12, 2012 | Jeff Weiner

Posted on 06/12/2012 9:02:42 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara

The judge who revoked George Zimmerman's bond did so after he determined that it was "apparent" that Zimmerman's wife had lied under oath, and clear that Zimmerman "does not properly respect the law."

Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester revoked Zimmerman's bond on June 1, but his written order was filed Monday. In it, Lester lays out his rationale.

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KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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sigh... I guess Judge Lester hasn't learned anything from his error in revoking George's bond.
1 posted on 06/12/2012 9:02:53 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: Aunt Polgara
There's more law out there than one personal can possibly comprehend, but the Law says that's no defense.

We're screwed in a Catch 22 situation.

2 posted on 06/12/2012 9:05:05 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Aunt Polgara

A few of the “Zimmerman is GUILTY — I told you so” hacks resurfaced here after the latest developments.


3 posted on 06/12/2012 9:06:12 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Aunt Polgara

Can ya blame Zimmerman? Considering what has been done to him.

Has anyone ever been arrested for the bounty for killing Zimmerman?


4 posted on 06/12/2012 9:06:17 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Aunt Polgara

If his wife lied under oath, shouldn’t SHE be the one in jail?


5 posted on 06/12/2012 9:06:28 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The media ignored the 40th anniversary of Bill Ayers' Pentagon bombing but not Watergate. Ask Why.)
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To: Aunt Polgara

When your ENTIRE case rests heavily on your credability, and you testify under oath that you are penniless while knowing you have over $100,000 available in an on-line account - you are, in fact, demonstrating that you have do not respect the law.

When you are in jail, and you know your phone calls are monitored, and you use code like “What should we do with the $100” ($100 = $100,000 - that’s one tough code, eh?) you have just furnished proof that your word is worthless.

Zimmerman was an utter fool to do this - he now has given the Prosecution the best weapon they could possibly have hoped for, “reasonable doubt”.


6 posted on 06/12/2012 9:08:31 AM PDT by Hodar (Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see.- A. Schopenhauer)
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To: Aunt Polgara

Simply amazing, For a man, (Zimmerman), that does not recognize the law he certainly has been awfully respectful of law enforcement and follows their directions promptly.

As I follow this case more and more I feel that there is a high level of fear about the results of a trial. So to counteract they are doing everything to prejudge and prejudice it in the media before going to courtroom.


7 posted on 06/12/2012 9:09:27 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Hodar

The paypal proceeds from public donations for Zimmerman’s defense was widely known and reported in the media prior to that time, so how could there have been an intent to cover this up?


8 posted on 06/12/2012 9:11:14 AM PDT by Elpasser
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To: Aunt Polgara

Rule #17: NEVER Piss Off a judge !


9 posted on 06/12/2012 9:11:37 AM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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To: Hodar

>>and you testify under oath that you are penniless <<

And when, exactly, did George testify that he was penniless?


10 posted on 06/12/2012 9:12:02 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: Hodar

??? Prosecution doesn’t have resonable doubt as a standard. They have to prove their case.


11 posted on 06/12/2012 9:12:19 AM PDT by pas
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To: Hodar

It is of course extremely important to know which media reports to believe, isn’t it?

Just believe anything that supports “Zimmerman is GUILTY”.

Yeah... that’s the ticket.


12 posted on 06/12/2012 9:13:06 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Aunt Polgara

Sounds like the Judge doesn’t respect the law.


13 posted on 06/12/2012 9:13:19 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Hodar
...he now has given the Prosecution the best weapon they could possibly have hoped for, “reasonable doubt”.

Your understanding of "reasonable doubt" evidently comes form bizarro world.

If there is reasonable doubt of Zimmerman's guilt, a juror must vote to acquit.

I don't have any idea what your "reasonable doubt" is about.

I don't believe you do, either.

14 posted on 06/12/2012 9:13:34 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Yeah but she’s not the one they want to lynch. I was thinking that maybe Zimmerman had a chance to beat this considering what an idiot the prosecutor is, but now it seems the judge is in on the lynching as well. Has the judge considered that maybe Zimmerman is just NAIVE? That maybe just maybe he considered those donations for his legal defense not HIS money being that it would be going directly to his defense lawyers? I cannot freakin’ believe what is going on in this case.


15 posted on 06/12/2012 9:13:34 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Aunt Polgara

“And when, exactly, did George testify that he was penniless?”

ABCCBSCNNNBCFOX/AP reported it, so it must be true!


16 posted on 06/12/2012 9:14:37 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: MindBender26

Maybe George doesn’t respect the occasional clown with a grudge who supposedly apply the law or are tasked to uphold or enforce the law. Id say the current kangaroo court fiasco trying to lynch him is pretty good evidence that George has it about right.


17 posted on 06/12/2012 9:16:09 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: freekitty

Sounds also like the Law doesn’t respect the citizens.


18 posted on 06/12/2012 9:16:50 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Aunt Polgara

The law only works if you’re a liberal Democrat with a good liberal Democrat cause.

:(


19 posted on 06/12/2012 9:17:10 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

FR has been heavily infiltrated.

They try to only pop up on the heavy-duty political issues for their beloved messiah, but sometimes they just can’t help themselves.


20 posted on 06/12/2012 9:17:28 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Hodar
he now has given the Prosecution the best weapon they could possibly have hoped for, “reasonable doubt”.

All that political hijinks over the bail is inadmissible in a criminal case about Trayvon's little accident. It's ridiculous to have asked for bond at all, on a defendant who kept in touch with the prosecutrix's office and turned himself in voluntarily when she charged him based on her fantasies.

The guy deserves a medal, not a bunch of craven, dishonest bureaucrats competing to see who can abuse the victim more.

21 posted on 06/12/2012 9:17:28 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Hodar
and you testify under oath that you are penniless while knowing you have over $100,000 available in an on-line account - you are, in fact, demonstrating that you have do not respect the law.

Why is "don't know what I'm allowed to do with those funds" not sufficient?

22 posted on 06/12/2012 9:17:33 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: The Working Man

Just think if he had followed directions to not go after the kid that nite...he wouldn’t be in jail, he wouldn’t have $100K and a kid would still be alive.


23 posted on 06/12/2012 9:18:38 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: The Working Man

Just think if he had followed directions to not go after the kid that nite...he wouldn’t be in jail, he wouldn’t have $100K and a kid would still be alive.


24 posted on 06/12/2012 9:19:03 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Aunt Polgara
That is a good excuse as any, if you got to have one.

My take is that the judge was not supposed to grant Zimmerman bond in the first place. And he caught hell behind the scenes for doing so. And he responded by saying give me an excuse to revolk his bond. So they came up with this bullshit. It should warm the cockels of the lynch Zimmerman mob. Hopefully something bad will happen to them in the future.

25 posted on 06/12/2012 9:19:51 AM PDT by sport
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Zimmerman, by his own actions - demonstrated that his sworn testamony is worthless. The jury now knows that anything he says “under oath” is not to be trusted.

The only thing they have to work with now, is the evidence (which supports Zimmerman’s story), the police report (which supports Zimmeman’s story) and the evidence collected at the crime scene (which supports his story).

Instead of having 100% of the trust - he has sacrificed a huge amount of that trust. This was stupid of him. Perhaps you would do something like this; but I can assure you that if this was MY life on the line - I would have been 100% truthful. I fail to understand what possible motive he could have had to pull this stunt.

If the bail was set higher, I’d contest it on my first offense, my standing in the neighborhood and charge “Unreasonable Bail”.

As is, he gave the Prosecution ammunition it didn’t have before. In fact, prior to this stunt; the Prosecution had no ammo whatsoever.


26 posted on 06/12/2012 9:20:22 AM PDT by Hodar (Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see.- A. Schopenhauer)
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To: stuartcr

They’re BAAAAAACK!


27 posted on 06/12/2012 9:20:22 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Aunt Polgara

Zimmerman had not yet transferred any funds from PayPal to his bank account at the time he and his wife filed their income statement. Therefore they did NOT lie under oath about it. Lester is a douche. What about Angela Corey, who withheld material facts from her indictment, and “prayed” with Martin’s ambulance chasing lawyers. No contempt citation for her? Mark Levin is blasting Lester for this.


28 posted on 06/12/2012 9:20:22 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Aunt Polgara

The democrat party has decided to lynch the unfortunate (and innocent) Mr. Zimmerman.

The reason is that the democrats for some reason seem to think it will help win the election. Perhaps the the party thinks it is a distraction for the black voter base, so that they can overlook their economic annihilation by the Obama Regime.


29 posted on 06/12/2012 9:20:39 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: Hodar

Zimmerman did not know what to do with the money in the Paypal account. It was given for his defense, not for his bail. If he used it improperly, he would have committed a crime.

Besides, if the bail is set, and the bond is paid, what the heck is the difference to the judge?

Is the judge saying, if I knew you had more money, I would have set the bail higher? That is totally BS.

The judge and prosecutor are corrupt, and need to be changed. I have never seen such a travesty of justice since OJ.


30 posted on 06/12/2012 9:20:50 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: Aunt Polgara

THE FIX IS IN!

That there damn WHITEY gon’ get TRAY-VONNNNED!!!!

Lock and load, boys and girls.


31 posted on 06/12/2012 9:21:28 AM PDT by Flintlock (THE TRUTH: It's the new hate speech..)
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To: stuartcr
Just think if he had followed directions to not go after the kid that nite...he wouldn’t be in jail, he wouldn’t have $100K and a kid would still be alive.

By now you must be familiar with the actual transcript of the 911 call. So I conclude you're just a troll with green nose-hairs.

32 posted on 06/12/2012 9:22:14 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Aunt Polgara
They, who support thugs and criminals like Trayvon, require ardent Stalinists and other assorted psychopaths in their legal support network. It's the only way such madness can get pushed through.

Zimmerman is really screwed if his case is getting oversight from these dangerous @ssholes.

33 posted on 06/12/2012 9:22:41 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: stuartcr

He did follow the directions to stop chasing him. Or did you over look that fact?


34 posted on 06/12/2012 9:23:48 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Flintlock

Take notice — several of these Hussein Heads will get loud again closer to judgment day for their messiah.


35 posted on 06/12/2012 9:24:12 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Paladin2
There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand

There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted and you create a nation of law-breakers -- and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system. - Ayn Rand
36 posted on 06/12/2012 9:24:34 AM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: Hodar

I have not read the order yet, I would think the primary issue is the passport. The money was explained after the fact by the lawyer so that could be excused. the intentional misrepresenting ITSELF is an issue.

If the wife lied or intentionally mislead, then there is no free pass to keep the bond.

If the judge treats this defendant like other defendants, he will let him stew for a few days and let him out at the next bond hearing. (perhaps at a higher bond)

The judge will, again if the same as other defendants, will not let STATE special prosecutor corey play her own games. The judge should be doing to her what the duke judge did to nifong.


37 posted on 06/12/2012 9:24:34 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Amen,FRiend!


38 posted on 06/12/2012 9:24:48 AM PDT by sport
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To: Aunt Polgara
George has committed the most serious crime a person can commit.

He has failed to genuflect to his ruling elite.

There need be no respect for the law, law and justice bear no relationship any more.

Lester administers Just Us.

39 posted on 06/12/2012 9:25:05 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: a fool in paradise
>>If his wife lied under oath, shouldn’t SHE be the one in jail?<<

That's a big IF. Judge Lester refused to allow enough time for O’Mara to have Zimmerman at the bond revocation hearing or to prepare to respond to the prosecutor's charges, pretty clearly a violation of GZ’s rights to confront his accusers and his due process rights. The hearing was supposed to be about media access to the discovery materials, not a bond hearing. I think it was unconscionable for the judge to entertain the motion at that hearing, especially after the prosecution deceptively edited Shellie Zimmerman's testimony as shown here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpzBX9Q56Ws What else might they have "edited" to make it look like the Zimmermans had evil intent?

40 posted on 06/12/2012 9:25:16 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: Aunt Polgara

“That which is not just is not law.”: William Lloyd Garrison


41 posted on 06/12/2012 9:25:16 AM PDT by Lexington Green (''Those who bite the hand that feeds them will lick the boots that kick them.'' -- Eric Hoffer)
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To: stuartcr
Just think if he had followed directions to not go after the kid that nite...he wouldn’t be in jail, he wouldn’t have $100K and a kid would still be alive.

Oh shut up, you turd. That "kid" who was 7-8" taller than Zimm and beat the crap out of him got what he deserved. Zimm DID go back to his car, but that wasn't enough for the "gangsta", who confronted him.

42 posted on 06/12/2012 9:25:52 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Aunt Polgara
I wonder if Lester makes a habit of punishing people for what he thinks is in their heart based on the actions of their spouse. Could it be any more plain that this “judge” is pandering to the riot inciters?
43 posted on 06/12/2012 9:26:08 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Aunt Polgara

I lost respect for the law a long time ago, when I saw how unevenly it is applied.


44 posted on 06/12/2012 9:27:21 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: stuartcr

do you have ANY evidence to prove that?

phone GPS?

physical locations?

hard evidence?

or are you just parroting the trial lawyer bar and race baiter talking point?


45 posted on 06/12/2012 9:28:01 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Hodar
They still have no ammo.

This is Scooter Libby all over again.

46 posted on 06/12/2012 9:28:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Hodar

Your analysis was great until you said reasonable doubt was a weapon for the prosecutor. It is in fact a sheild for the defendant. Zimmerman did hurt his credibility IF this is allowed in at his trial and IF he testifies.


47 posted on 06/12/2012 9:28:45 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Hodar
“Zimmerman was an utter fool to do this - he now has given the Prosecution the best weapon they could possibly have hoped for, “reasonable doubt”.”

Reasonable doubt is in favor of the defendant. The prosecution has the responsibility to prove beyond reasonable doubt.

48 posted on 06/12/2012 9:29:12 AM PDT by THE_RAIDER
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“Has the judge considered that maybe Zimmerman is just NAIVE? That maybe just maybe he considered those donations for his legal defense not HIS money being that it would be going directly to his defense lawyers?”

I think that’s a very good point. That the money was already earmarked; a plausable explanation of why it didn’t occur to GZ to mentione it. I can’t say I wouldn’t have failed to mention it either.


49 posted on 06/12/2012 9:29:12 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (The GOPe has played us like a violin for the last time; high time to build the Constitution Party.)
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To: stuartcr

Still getting your opinions from reverend Al, apparently.


50 posted on 06/12/2012 9:30:16 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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