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Zimmerman 'does not properly respect the law,' judge says in order revoking bond
Orlando Sentinal ^ | June 12, 2012 | Jeff Weiner

Posted on 06/12/2012 9:02:42 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara

The judge who revoked George Zimmerman's bond did so after he determined that it was "apparent" that Zimmerman's wife had lied under oath, and clear that Zimmerman "does not properly respect the law."

Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester revoked Zimmerman's bond on June 1, but his written order was filed Monday. In it, Lester lays out his rationale.

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KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: stuartcr
Just think if he had followed directions to not go after the kid that nite...

Just think, if you knew what you are talking about you would never have posted that obvious nonsense.

51 posted on 06/12/2012 9:30:23 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: stuartcr
Just think if he had followed directions to not go after the kid that nite...he wouldn’t be in jail, he wouldn’t have $100K and a kid would still be alive.

The same could be said if the kid hadn't attacked him.

Real Americans are not in the habit of blaming burglary victims for not locking their doors..

52 posted on 06/12/2012 9:30:38 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Tzimisce
The law only works if you’re a liberal Democrat with a good liberal Democrat cause.

Don'tcha know? A White, Hispanic, Black, Catholic Democrat kills a Black Democrat, and it's all Conservatives' fault.

53 posted on 06/12/2012 9:30:44 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: Hodar

I’d love to see the case in which the prosecutor is using reasonable doubt as a weapon. If the defendant is found guilty it must be beyond a reasonable doubt.

Ahem, that means the defendant would use the reasonable doubt to obtain a verdict of not guilty.

If you mean you would reasonably doubt the defendant’s version of events because he misrepresented something, then you would also need to look at the motives for him to be able to leave the area pending trial, since the vigilantes and “regulators” were offering rewards to kill him before the proof comes out in the trial.

I reasonably doubt the Prosecutor’s case.


54 posted on 06/12/2012 9:31:18 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: longtermmemmory

He was advised to not go after the kid, right?

He got $100k for defense, right?

The kid wouldn’t have died at his hands, right?


55 posted on 06/12/2012 9:31:43 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Aunt Polgara

What a prick.


56 posted on 06/12/2012 9:31:53 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: freekitty
What's the Judge's name?? Nifong you say !!!

Don't kid yourself....This judge was "selected". You can hear it in everything he says.

I think Zimmerman's attorney should ask for a change of venue.

57 posted on 06/12/2012 9:32:43 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Elpasser
how could there have been an intent to cover this up?

There was no intent to cover it up. Shellie Zimmerman even offered to get her brother-in-law on the phone to confirm the amount. Neither the judge, nor the prosecution took her up on the offer.

58 posted on 06/12/2012 9:32:58 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: ozzymandus

You believe all this would still have happened if he had taken the advice to not pursue the kid?


59 posted on 06/12/2012 9:33:54 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Hodar
The prosecution still “has no ammo”. that's why they’re making up petty crap like this. The question is why you are believing it.
60 posted on 06/12/2012 9:34:14 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Aunt Polgara

if his wife lied shouldn’t she be the one in jail?


61 posted on 06/12/2012 9:34:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: stuartcr
Just think if he had followed directions to not go after the kid that nite...he wouldn’t be in jail, he wouldn’t have $100K and a kid would still be alive.

He did return to his car according to the transcripts. A kid wouldn't have attacked GZ but a drugged up punk thug did and now he is dead from his own actions.

Except for the trumped up charges against GZ things worked out nicely.

62 posted on 06/12/2012 9:34:29 AM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

The short of it is that black supremacist hate groups have put a bounty on Zimmerman’s head, dead or alive, and he’s being locked up for his own safety but they are unwilling to cast it that way.

Long hot summer and Big PoPo doesn’t want to have to deal with riots led by the President of the United States.


63 posted on 06/12/2012 9:35:15 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The media ignored the 40th anniversary of Bill Ayers' Pentagon bombing but not Watergate. Ask Why.)
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To: MileHi

So, if he had not gone after the kid, all this would have still happened?


64 posted on 06/12/2012 9:35:15 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Aunt Polgara

Nice posting ‘Aunt Polgara’! Of course the “usual suspects” who rise up here on Free Republic to bad mouth Zimmerman, everything he does and all members of his family don’t bother to look into things to this level of detail. They just want to make assumptions that will support their irrational “hang ‘em high” prejudgements.

Those folks are despicable IMHO!


65 posted on 06/12/2012 9:35:31 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: stuartcr

Just think if the kid wasn’t kicked out of school and living with mom instead of daddy and his girlfriend.


66 posted on 06/12/2012 9:35:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: treetopsandroofs

And they still get the facts and sequence of events wrong.


67 posted on 06/12/2012 9:36:07 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: sport

“My take is that the judge was not supposed to grant Zimmerman bond in the first place. And he caught hell behind the scenes for doing so. And he responded by saying give me an excuse to revolk his bond.”

That’s certainly what it smells like.

This issue brings out the Hussein Heads like hot rain on a NYC street.

Sorry for the Ra(th)erism.


68 posted on 06/12/2012 9:36:07 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: stuartcr
He was advised to not go after the kid, right?

No.

69 posted on 06/12/2012 9:36:17 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Lexington Green

Tell that to the goons with guns and badges when they come to get you. Watch their reactions.


70 posted on 06/12/2012 9:36:17 AM PDT by sport
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To: a fool in paradise
"If his wife lied under oath, shouldn’t SHE be the one in jail?"

If what I read is true, then she didn't lie, she didn't mislead. She answered truthfully.
When asked how much was in the account she said she didn't know. At the time she was asked, she didn't know how much was in there.
Neither had discussed with the attorney as to what they could do with the $$.
JMHO

71 posted on 06/12/2012 9:36:58 AM PDT by DeaconRed (My vote in Nov will be dictated by my extreme hatred for ZERO and what he is doing to our country.)
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To: papertyger

If he had not followed the kid as he was directed, how would the kid have attacked him?


72 posted on 06/12/2012 9:36:58 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr
Just think if he had followed directions to not go after the kid that nite.

And what makes you think that he went after the kid that nite???

73 posted on 06/12/2012 9:36:58 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Elpasser

If I had 100k to pay for my legal defense, I would still consider myself penniless...the money belongs to my lawyers and I might see some of it if my lawyers decide to bring me a good sandwich when they visit me in prison.

How ridiculous! It’s a legal fund, not disposable income. It wasn’t a big secret and to say that he is MORE of a criminal because he didn’t report it and we need to get him off the streets is just assinine.

Is it now a HATE crime squared? to the 10th power? Why can’t a “crime” just be a “crime”; why does there have to be all of these different LEVELS of personal offense?

Is he a worse criminal now because he kinda sorta lied about income-which isn’t really income or savings or a trust, kind of a gray area having a legal defense fund-does it specifically ask about you having a legal defense fund?

Doesn’t matter-he is now not just a REALLY bad criminal because he killed someone who was a certain color who was trying to kill him, but he is a REALLY REALLY REALLY bad criminal because he mispoke,-
and only politicians, lawyers and judges are allowed to do that. How dare he!


74 posted on 06/12/2012 9:37:18 AM PDT by homegroan (Veni, Vedi, Velcro and Ranting...since 1998)
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To: Paladin2
There's more law out there than one personal can possibly comprehend, but the Law says that's no defense.

We're screwed in a Catch 22 situation.

I'm beginning to understand how the Russians under Stalin felt.

75 posted on 06/12/2012 9:37:34 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Aunt Polgara

If this case had ANYTHING to do with “...properly respect the law”, Zimmerman would have never been arrested in the first place.

If I were the subject of a racist and politically driven lynching, I can assure you that my respect for the law would be significantly diminished.


76 posted on 06/12/2012 9:37:34 AM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: stuartcr

The “kid” attacked him, Einstein. Zimmerman was walking back to his vehicle when the “kid” attacked him. If Zimmerman hadn’t had a (legal) gun, he would have been killed, and you’d have to be stupid about something else.


77 posted on 06/12/2012 9:38:12 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: driftdiver
Can ya blame Zimmerman? Considering what has been done to him.

The 'lesson' is: if a black teenager wants to beat the sh*t out of you - let him. The 'crime' of looking at a black person is the ONLY crime worth respecting. Zimmerman had the gall to diss a brother - he should probably be put to death. /s

78 posted on 06/12/2012 9:39:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (Take your little hammer, little sickle and your scary red signs with a fist on it, and go home...)
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To: Eaker

So he didn’t follow the kid after he was directed to not pursue? The kid attacked him at his car?


79 posted on 06/12/2012 9:39:07 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Aunt Polgara
Has not this Judge crossed the boundaries of his job classification/description?

Incredible; that everything he says regarding Zimmerman; implies a guilty action on his behalf. This Judge has personally, made the effort to destroy any integrity that Zimmerman has; by saying that he LIED about his funds, et al and hence his recall to jail.

(Never allowing room, for a legitimate defense/explanation whereby Zimmerman might explain his position; i.e. confusion as to monies, for example; and for certain; that this was a legal defense fund' effort; and money NEVER intended for his bond.

Given the entire case rests on Zimmerman's word/honesty; this Judge successfully degraded both; in eyes of public.

Outrageous, IMHO; and they should seek a new Judge to replace this Judge who is clearly, a Leftist tool.

80 posted on 06/12/2012 9:39:43 AM PDT by cricket (Who ART THOU, Obama???. .)
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To: stuartcr

So what you seem to be saying here, is that if Zimmerman did trail the suspect, that gave the suspect the right to take Zimmerman down and beat his head against the ground?

That’s just bazaar.

Are you trying to say that a person on neighborhood watch or something similar, doesn’t have the right to follow someone he thinks is suspicious?

That’s just bazaar.

Are you saying Zimmerman didn’t have a right to defend himself when the perp was slamming his head against the ground?

That’s just bazaar.

Are you saying the police have the right to take you phone call where you express concern, then they effectively put you under house arrest at the end of the call?

That’s just bazaar.

Lets say you are in your home and you hear something out back. You look out and a guy with a ladder is setting up under your children’s window. You call the police and they tell you to stay inside. You could pull your kids out of their room, but then the perp would have the run of your home and none of you would be safe. You go outside to confront the perp, an altercation occurs, and you wind up flat on your back on the driveway with the perp banging your head on it. If you then shoot the guy to stop him, are you guilty of not staying in the house like the police told you to? Is some poor innocent perp dead because you didn’t follow the orders of Barney Fife?

No, your family is safe because you took action. And beyond that, the perp won’t be bothering anyone else in the area. Good job!

We need a lot more Zimmerman’s out there. If criminals know they may just wind up dead after doing things they shouldn’t, perhaps they’ll avoid doing things they shouldn’t.

Travon had no business beating Zimmerman’s head on the pavement. I view that as attempted murder. Good on Zimmerman for ending the life of someone with a hair trigger, that didn’t know better than to do this sort of thing.

All this proves, is that Zimmerman was a lot better judge of character than many people are. He was dead right to keep his eye on this stick of dynamite.


81 posted on 06/12/2012 9:39:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: SamuraiScot

By now you must be familiar with the actual transcript of the 911 call. So I conclude you’re just a troll with green nose-hairs.


LOL, I was going to respond to him and then I remembered his screen name and decided that getting beat over the head with his willful ignorance wasn’t worth it. However the Green nose-hairs truly deserved an atta-boy!


82 posted on 06/12/2012 9:40:28 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Aunt Polgara

I’d like to see how clearly Judge Lester can think with a lynch mob screaming for his blood.


83 posted on 06/12/2012 9:41:16 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Sacajaweau

Then I imagine none of this would have happened.


84 posted on 06/12/2012 9:41:16 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: exit82
I agree with your succinct analysis. Thank you.
85 posted on 06/12/2012 9:41:46 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: stuartcr
...how would the kid have attacked him?

by breaking the law; something GZ did NOT do.

86 posted on 06/12/2012 9:43:04 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Aunt Polgara

If “not respecting the law” is just cause for revoking bail, then shouldn’t both Obama and the GA lawyer who ignored a judge’s order to appear in court suffer some consequences? And shouldn’t Judge Malihi himself suffer some consequences, since he’s the one who refused to certify the court record so that it could be passed on to another judge to determine what to do about contempt of court charges, as required by law?

I haven’t looked into all the details on this and I’m not a lawyer, but my gut feeling is that these judges all think they can do what they darn well please. And until we the people do something about it, that’s exactly what they will do. There is no rule of law in this country.


87 posted on 06/12/2012 9:43:04 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: papertyger

You’re saying the dispatcher did not advise him to stay in the car?


88 posted on 06/12/2012 9:44:16 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Aunt Polgara

So was Judge Lester LYING IN A COURT PROCEEDING when he falsely accused George Zimmerman of testifying under oath that he was penniless?

Throw him in jail and don’t allow him to post bond because he clearly did the same thing he (falsely) accused George of doing!


89 posted on 06/12/2012 9:46:04 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: stuartcr
He was advised to not go after the kid, right?

He got $100k for defense, right?

The kid wouldn’t have died at his hands, right?

The only precipitating event that led to Trayvon's death was his bashing Zimmerman's head against the concrete.

90 posted on 06/12/2012 9:46:35 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: stuartcr
...if he had taken the advice to not pursue the kid?

Um, he did. Oh, I get it now. You are WILLFULLY stupid.

91 posted on 06/12/2012 9:46:35 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Elpasser
so how could there have been an intent to cover this up?

Well, for starter; when you tell the judge at the Bail Hearing that you do not have any savings, you have no relatives that you can borrow money from, and tell him that you do not have access to any funds.

92 posted on 06/12/2012 9:46:51 AM PDT by Hodar (Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see.- A. Schopenhauer)
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To: DoughtyOne

I think the word you are looking for is “bizarre”.


93 posted on 06/12/2012 9:48:11 AM PDT by ApeStyle
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To: Uncle Chip

Didn’t the kid attack him when he was returning to his vehicle?


94 posted on 06/12/2012 9:49:07 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

I believe none of this would have happened if Trayvon had not been snarking around in a neighborhood, where he was not familiar, and had not pursued and then beat up on George Zimmerman. If Trayvon had not beat George Z, he might still be alive today.


95 posted on 06/12/2012 9:49:51 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: papertyger

And if I understand correctly, Lester “conveniently” left off the part where Zimmerman’s wife offered to call somebody who could tell her the exact amount. If he didn’t take her up on that offer then he’s the fool. And if he accuses her of trying to deceive him because he was too stupid to take her up on it then he’s worse than a douche.

This whole case is officially a banana republic circus show. This judge is just as bad as Angela Corey, and that’s saying a LOT.


96 posted on 06/12/2012 9:50:26 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: ozzymandus

If he had stayed in his vehicle as directed, then how would the kid have been able to attack him as he was walking back to his vehicle?


97 posted on 06/12/2012 9:51:26 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Sacajaweau

I know that.


98 posted on 06/12/2012 9:52:12 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Aunt Polgara

You are entirely correct. Anyone accused of a crime in our system has the right to confront their accusers. In this case the prosecution was accusing the Zimmerman’s of misleading the court — not perjury even. Judge Lester denied them a hearing on the issue. The prosecution obviously knows that they can get away with twisting the facts in his court.


99 posted on 06/12/2012 9:52:18 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Navy Patriot

it is called “black robe fever”.

It is a common term used by lawyers in describing judges.

Once a person puts on the black robe, the becomed overwhelmed with self importance. (see also “do you know who i am?!”) It is a madness particular to judges.

hence black robe fever.


100 posted on 06/12/2012 9:52:27 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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