Skip to comments.George Zimmerman's wife arrested, charged with perjury [Appealing to the Obama/Sharpton Lynch Mob]
Posted on 06/12/2012 1:39:11 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Posted a link for the transcript. Read it. She told the court where to get the information.
The liberal judges and persecutors will freeze and seize this defense fund and never allow this family to defend itself, much less return to their jobs and home
Bernie Goetz - all over again. Luckily, for Bernie, he had no family.
Wouldn't that just get him in more trouble unless it was set up after the conclusion of the case?
Is that the only story you have read on this issue? Are you aware that there is a very strong possibility that the money, donated for his legal defense, is not “his,” for the purposes of establishing whether or not he is indigent.
In other words, he did not lie when he gave the information, as he knew it at the time, about his finances. Furthermore, there is a strong likelihood that the judge overstepped his bounds inquiring about anything more than Zimmermans actual personal finances. The money raised in his defense fund is in all likelihood privileged and not discoverable.
What is not being said: "And after you have accomplished our goals, we will line you up against the wall and execute you, regardless to your skin color. After all, you turned against your own countrymen, we could never trust you."
Only if he solicits funds. There is no legal barrier against me sending money to anybody I want, except if I send it to a politician for a political campaign I am subjected to controls.
On what grounds can they seize money that does not belong to Zimmerman?
But if a bunch of people sent money directly to GZ, then the judge would just raise his bail, wouldn’t he?
Richard Armitage is the one who outed Valerie Plame.
What, exactly, is it that you think Libby did wrong, other than cooperate with the prosecutor?
All he would have had to do is use the standard Hillary Clinton response, "I don't recall," and that would have been the end of that.
Good question. I don’t know. It’s not important at this juncture or instant in time. Zimmerman will need the money later, more than he needs it now.
Just read her testimony. The judge asked her about the web site and she said she didn’t know how much money had been contributed. When asked who would know she said her brother. For THIS they are charging her with perjury???? WTF. Sounds like total BS to me.
all this judge's questioning about family finance was for the judge to set a bond
Now....is bond supposed to be based on family assets?
Or on the severity of a crime and the risk that the defendant will flee before trials????
Does this judge routinely ask the black folks that come before him if their extended family will pool assets to make bond?
Zimmerman turned himself in and showed no signs of being a flight risk (even though his life is in jeopardy). He was fully cooperative with the judge.
I can understand a young family that had just lost everything - their jobs, their home, their safety, living in hiding - to consider themselves “indigent” - not knowing what was their means of support aside from using this newly-established fund to pay the lawyer bills in a desparate effort to keep Zimmerman out of jail and save his life
The lawyer was in process of taking over this fund or did so within days of this court appearance, since it was growing so fast
I think the judge wants to skip all that red tape associated with trials and stuff, and simply proceed to the execution phase of the process.
The filed “Information”
I guess the message was received.
The government allows 17 year olds to join the military and fight & die for this country. Doesn’t sound like they’re children to me.
It may be that somebody in N.E. Ohio learned the lesson. A few days after all this hit the fan something set off a road rage case that ended when one driver got out of his car and approached the driver of the other, who proceeded to shoot once and take off, thus avoiding becoming another Zimmerman. To this date, AFIK, he has not been apprehended.
the same way they tied up Sarah Palin’s legal defense fund
Legal maneuvers. Freeze disbursement, stop collecting, file more charges, assess financial penalties and run up more legal bills
Sarah’s legal team eventually got access to use her legal defense fund to pay her legal bills but it cost them time and even more money. She had to leave the governor’s office and use her fame to make her own money to finish paying off her legal harassment bills, Zimmerman is not so famous or smart
from what I have read, the “bond hearing” was supposed to be for some other purpose, and the defense attorney wasn’t informed that the bond motion would be heard. Preparing for the wrong battle is a sure fire recipe for failure, the same as not preparing for the battle at all.
I have not heard of this one. Was it a white/black fight?
This is so wrong. Governmnet out of control. Arrest the prosecutor. Arrest the politicians. Lets put an end to this mess.
I know everyone is focused on when the black riots will take place, but this is getting so ridiculous, I am ready to head to Sanford to start a protest. This is indeed statism at its core.
See here testimony (LINK) page 26, starting on line 15.
That was all the effort of one individual that was harassing Palin. We’re looking at apples and oranges here.
You got it —
The court knew all about the money. Read Shellie Zimmerman’s testimony:
link courtesy of jaded
She stated she did not know what was in the web site account, and that her brother in law could provide the information!
This is a pure unmitigated travesty.
Wouldn’t this apply to her coerced testimony?
The lynch mob out for Zim's blood is disgusting, even if they prance around here on FR.
“Are they going to try to flip her in return for giving up pillow talk from her hubbie?”
We still have marital privilege, don’t we? Or are they going to compel her to testify about how he said he hated black youths and wanted to waste all the punks back when they were dating?
Florida needs to be purged. With fire...
Wonder what’s next ?
“Will the jurors on the murder trial know about the lying to the court charges?”
They will know everything. The pool has been poisoned.
As for whether they’re supposed to know, I don’t know. It doesn’t seem like what happens during the bail hearing would be admissable, unless he spontaneously shouts “I committed murder 2!” or something.
By Florida law that PayPal money has to be in a Trust and thus under jurisdiction of the Circuit Court.
The court knew about the web site funds
“You think Scooter was completely innocent of any wrongdoing?”
I personally don’t care what he did, the idea that they would pursue obstruction of justice or perjury in a case where it turns out there was no underlying crime—and that is so in his case, as she was not undercover and no one was charged with exposing her—demonstrates a disgusting lack of better things to do on the government’s part. It obviously was a political prosecution, and was pursued for no other reason than *someone* in the Bush administration had to fall—hopefully Cheney, but they took Libby as consolation—so as to make the whole yellow cake non-scandal worthwhile.
Does it matter? This has already gone TOO FAR.
WAY too far!
“except if I send it to a politician for a political campaign I am subjected to controls”
And that’s only because politicians have gutted the Constitution in the interest of getting reelected...err, I mean preventing corruption.
Thanks. This is another good link.
“The judge asked her about the web site and she said she didnt know how much money had been contributed. When asked who would know she said her brother. For THIS they are charging her with perjury???? WTF.”
But according to the arrest warrant, she had transferred $74K from that fund just the day before the hearing. So unless the affidavit in support of that warrant was a flagrant lie, the judge merely concluded that it was improbable she had forgotten this amount within 24 hours of the transfer. Thus, she lied about not knowing the amount. Remember that Zimmerman’s own lawyer asked for a new bond hearing conceding/acknowledging his client had misled the court about what he knew about the amount of those funds.
I think the judge has not treated Zimmerman particularly fairly, but in this instance, put the shoe on the other foot. Imagine Trayvon Martin killed Zimmerman and had a wife who said the identical thing under the identical circumstances. If the judge ignored such a flagrant lie in a bond hearing and people became aware of this, we’d all be screaming up and down about what a miscarriage of justice it is for the judge to ignore such flagrant evidence of lying by not having her arrested for perjury etc. Perjury is deeply offensive: hence the reason we all thought Bill Clinton deserved to be impeached and removed from office. Let’s apply that standard consistently.
The GOP wants the issue to go away until after the election, so they are washing their hands of an innocent person, leaving them to the mercy of the mob. In the Zimmerman case, the GOP actually appoints the prosecutor, knowing her MO and, perhaps, even having a tacit agreement with her about how she will handle the case. The GOP is learning how to lynch from the Democrats.
Yes, goes to credibility of the defendant.
I remember the original transcript and this one, like Corey's indicting document of George, leaves off parts of that phone call that are inconvenient to the prosecution.
She said that George's brother knew what was in the account and the judge simply chose not to follow up with any further questions. It was odd -- like he just didn't want to know what was really there.
Their best defense in this is twofold, in my opinion. They testified that they were not sure of the amount in the account, and offered to make a phone call to get the exact amount. The judge declined that offer - so I so no possible way he can cite her for perjury. She didn't know the exact amount, offered to get the exact amount, he said the exact amount didn't matter, and now he has her arrested for not giving the exact amount. It is outrageous.
Second, they can state, as has been suggested elsewhere, that they did not think the money from the “defense fund” was legally theirs. This point is moot, however if she makes the court aware of the account, states that she is unsure of the exact amount, offers to find out the exact amount and that offer is declined by the judge.
The judges actions exonerate her, as far as I can see (if that account is true). And if that account is true, the judge should be impeached and disbarred for his behavior in this.
“This smells to high heaven.”
You bet it does.
Lacking a case the prosecuter Corey is attempting to set up the meme that the Zimmermans are “liars.”
The only one I can see so far that needs to be wearing a “orange jumpsuit.” is Corey.
What exactly was it that Scooter was allegedly guilty of? Do you remember?
It was "perjury" -- lying to a grand jury. But what did the perjury concern?
Specifically, Libby testified that Tim Russert had told him that Valerie Plame was Joe Wilson's wife and was a CIA agent. Russert remembered the conversation otherwise.
He said/he said. That's the whole case, in a nutshell.
And a DC jury, fervently wishing it was Dick Cheney who had been charged, was only too happy to find Scooter Libby guilty of...well, something.
Contrary to your assertion, there is no real evidence that Scooter Libby was guilty of anything.
Okay. She did not hide the account from the judge but she claimed she did not know how much money was in that account. We need to know about her and George’s communication while he was in the prison. Did she express knowledge of the amount in the account to George in some kind of code.
But back to the testimony, she told the truth that she did not know the amount in the account. She was not in possession of the account and the amount changed all the time, depending upon how many donations came in from hour to hour.
If she knew the account contained 20k the night before court, it may have held 25k by the time of the court hearing. So technically, she did not know the amount in the account and the judge should have taken her up on the offer to call George’s brother if it was important to him. If she was doing something wrong, George’s lawyer should have stepped in.
This all sounds like the judge is cooking up nonsense with the prosecutor to put pressure on George. It is also troubling that the judge claims there is strong evidence against George and he could spend his life in jail if convicted. That was designed as a message from the judge to George in order to help the prosecutor milk a plea bargin out of George, imo. George’s lawyer is probably freaked out! He’s defending George in front of a crooked judge.