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Zimmerman's wife arrested, accused of perjury
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Posted on 06/12/2012 3:00:50 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

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To: Islander2

He may have already stepped in via Dersowitz. He is Jewish and they stick together.


51 posted on 06/12/2012 4:18:42 PM PDT by WVNan ("Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston)
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To: opentalk
Yet Holder still has his job after perjury to congress, law only applies to the little guy.

And some poor dumb retired baseball player is facing prison time for the same thing Holder did, only the baseball player lied about something personal behavior and Holder lied about federal crimes.

52 posted on 06/12/2012 4:19:39 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Might be petty, but if this article is accurate...they both stepped in it.


53 posted on 06/12/2012 4:26:19 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama - The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I very much look forward to eventually seeing special prosecutor Angela Corey’s booking photo.


54 posted on 06/12/2012 4:44:29 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This is smelling more and more like Obama and Holder are holding the strings and injecting themselves in the process.
This whole thing has turned into a vendetta to avenge Obama’s hoodie wearing long lost son.


55 posted on 06/12/2012 4:45:49 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (End the racist, anti-capitalist Obama War On Freedom.)
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To: ansel12

Good catch.


56 posted on 06/12/2012 4:48:18 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: coyotl
Since when is it a crime to lie?

Shhhh! Now everybody knows you're a Democrat.

57 posted on 06/12/2012 4:48:24 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Red in Blue PA
Depending upon what or how she said what she is accused of saying, upon which the judge had her arrested; a spouse's right to refuse to testify might apply?
58 posted on 06/12/2012 4:50:30 PM PDT by Errant
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To: coyotl

“Since when is it a crime to lie?”

It’s not on DU, seriously.


59 posted on 06/12/2012 4:51:20 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Red in Blue PA

wow this angela corey is really desperate to win via subterfuge.

For those who don’t know, it is very very very very very very rare to have a perjury arrest in any case.

In fact there has never been anyone arrested for not showing up to jury duty that was noticed MAILED.

This is a credibility attack.


60 posted on 06/12/2012 5:00:06 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Brilliant

Did they drag her out of bed at 4am to get this mug shot?


61 posted on 06/12/2012 5:01:46 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: opentalk
i believe it says "Equal Justice under Law." "Four legs good, two legs even better." Animal Farm
62 posted on 06/12/2012 5:05:53 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Here it is:

http://www.clickorlando.com/blob/view/-/14790490/data/1/-/x6n0xuz/-/Shellie-capias.pdf

Note that it only includes a partial transcript. The exculpatory parts of the transcript are left off of the affidavit, just like the exculpatory evidence against GZ was left off of his affidavit. Am I seeing a pattern here????


63 posted on 06/12/2012 5:14:31 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Did I read it right?

Transactions of $9990 (4 times), $9999 (twice), and $9000 (twice) were transferred from George’s account into Shellie’s credit union account. More than $74,000 - all under that $10,000 amount that gets flagged.

She kept many thousands of dollars of walking-around money in her pocket.

George Zimmerman’s sister is involved too. She was at the credit union with Shellie and got more than $47,000.

George wanted the money transferred into gift cards.

George instructed Shellie to pay-off all their bills, including the American Express credit card and Sam’s Club accounts.

After he was released, she transferred money back into George’s accounts. Is he a control freak that he doesn’t even trust his own wife?

Who is Ken?


64 posted on 06/12/2012 5:34:55 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: P-Marlowe

My understanding is that it WASN’T a bail hearing, which is why the questions caught Shellie by surprise, before they had even spoken with their lawyer about how the website money worked.

Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but it sounds like Angela Corey heard the tapes of them talking in code about the money and sprung the bond questions on Shellie at an unrelated hearing that George wasn’t even at - knowing they hadn’t figured out with their lawyer how the money was going to work.

Sounds a bit like entrapment to me. Due process rights violated, I would think.

And of course, Angela Corey deliberately taking out the line (in the transcript for her motion) where Shelley offered to call somebody who would know the exact amount.

Just as a theoretical question, I wonder what would happen if a bunch of people joined together to collect funds for a $10,000 bounty on Judge Lester’s head, Angela Corey’s head, and Eric Holder’s head. Made it really public, and large groups protested in the streets holding signs calling for those heads dead or alive.

Think anybody in law enforcement would do anything about it? Think there would be calls for “civility”, like after the Gabby Giffords and Judge John Roll assassination?


65 posted on 06/12/2012 5:41:40 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Holder lied about federal crimes that constitute acts of war against Mexico.

No biggie, I guess. /s

I hope the Hispanics think long and hard about Holder conducting guerilla warfare on Mexico.


66 posted on 06/12/2012 5:51:29 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Beach_Babe
Who is Ken?

his brother???

67 posted on 06/12/2012 6:11:38 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: butterdezillion

The bail hearing was on Friday, April 20th. George was in the courtroom, Shellie was on the phone. All the money transfers/transactions happened earlier that week.


68 posted on 06/12/2012 6:26:50 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Uncle Chip; All
What strikes me here is the double standard. According to Dershowitz, who seems to know what he is talking about, Corey held back much more germane information when she submitted evidence for second degree murder charge, even though she swore to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Corey can lie when presenting the case for prosecution by keeping germane evidence from the judge, and nothing happens.

Mrs. Zimmerman says she does not know exactly how much money was received, but that she can find out, and she is charged with perjury, even after they give the judge the correct figures a few days later.

It sounds like the essence of tyranny to me.

69 posted on 06/12/2012 6:35:39 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Beach_Babe

Where exactly in that affidavit is the perjury???


70 posted on 06/12/2012 6:37:14 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Islander2
“You have to wonder when Zimmerman’s father (the judge) is going to start speaking out about what the hell is happening and/or when he is going to start stepping in and providing legal advice and making counter lawsuits.”

George's dad is a retired, low-level magistrate from Virgina, not a full-blown trial judge.

71 posted on 06/12/2012 6:37:22 PM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: WVNan
He [George's dad] may have already stepped in via Dersowitz. He is Jewish and they stick together.

The Zimmermans are Catholic, not Jewish.

72 posted on 06/12/2012 6:39:23 PM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: butterdezillion
My understanding is that it WASN’T a bail hearing, which is why the questions caught Shellie by surprise, before they had even spoken with their lawyer about how the website money worked.

Yes, you are mistaken. Shellie's testimony about the PayPal account was at George's first bail hearing on April 20th here

When Shellie was asked about the PayPal account, she referred the judge and prosecutor to her brother-in-law to get the total. Neither took her up on the offer.

Subsequent to that hearing, there was another hearing on 4/27 in which O'Mara disclosed the approximate total and told the judge that the money had been transferred into a trust. At that hearing, Judge Lester said that he didn't know if he could tap the PayPal money for bail. If even the judge didn't know, how could the Zimmermans know?? The video is here

The hearing that was supposed to be about media access to the discovery took place on June 1. The judge allowed the prosecution (over the objection of O'Mara) to file a bond revocation motion. George had a right to confront his accusers and also to have time to prepare to defend against the motion, but the judge denied him those due process rights and revoked the bond on the spot.

Who knows how truthful the motion was. The quotes from the jail phone calls may have been heavily edited. The prosecution has already been caught editing Shellie Zimmerman's testimony to make her look untruthful. Video here

73 posted on 06/12/2012 7:03:38 PM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: Red in Blue PA
So the State Attorney's office for the Fourth Judicial District of Florida is taking hostages now.

No big surprise there. We've known all along what they really are.

74 posted on 06/12/2012 7:19:30 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: Sporke
It’s legal for cops/the state, to lie to you, but illegal for you to lie to them. Go figure....

We're their superiors, plus coming from the sector of society without which their sector COULD not exist, yet they expect to have MORE rights than we, rather than less, as would be expected.

75 posted on 06/12/2012 8:13:48 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

“Could this be revenge against Dershowitz?”

Perhaps it’s time for Mr. Dershowitz to take on an active role (vs. just commentary) in the Zimmerman defense....


76 posted on 06/12/2012 8:31:43 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Red in Blue PA

0bama, his minions and an army of race racketeers are setting up a show trial extravaganza...


77 posted on 06/12/2012 8:42:18 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: sand88
Anyone still think there is a chance that Zimmerman will get a fair trial?

What next? Try to have O'Mara disbarred?

78 posted on 06/12/2012 8:47:07 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Red in Blue PA

This Judge might just as well be a witness for the prosecution now. It started with the judge, now look what he has created.


79 posted on 06/12/2012 8:48:35 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST)
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To: Brilliant
Not sure why the prosecutor feels compelled to bring charges on this, other than she thinks she’s God.

Pretty sure she actually thinks she outranks God. HE works for her, you see.

80 posted on 06/12/2012 8:57:54 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Aunt Polgara

Thanks for the correction.

Sounds like O’Mara and the Zimmermans are screwed because the JUDGE denied due process.

Does O’Mara get access to the raw (unedited) audio of the taped phone calls?

Sounds like the judge and prosecutor should get a room...


81 posted on 06/12/2012 10:07:53 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: coyotl; ansel12

IBTZ...


82 posted on 06/12/2012 10:11:51 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This is unbeleivable- The judhe himself asked her if there wwere any assets, she said no, but offered to call the brother inlaw who was overseeing the paypal account to make sure, and the judge said ‘NO’- and even the judge didn’t know IF the money in the paypal account could be concidere assets- This judge is the one that shoudl be arrested for falsely havign others arrested for crimes they did NOT commit!


83 posted on 06/13/2012 12:02:51 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: JayVee

[[Why do I have the feeling that this is that jurisdiction’s way of saying, “don’t you dare question us?”]]

Becasue that’s EXACTLY what they are saying- knowing ful lwell that they have an irate blaqck comunity behind them ready to explode into chaos and mayhem IF george zimmermaqn and wife are not prosecuted and convicted


84 posted on 06/13/2012 12:04:15 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop
This is unbeleivable- The judhe himself asked her if there wwere any assets, she said no,

Yeah she lied in court, under oath, that's technically perjury.

Forget the BiL, the Paypal account, and whatever restrictions you imagine were on it. In the 4 days before the hearing, she moved well over 100K out of George's credit union account, including more than 90K into her direct control. Even if she believes "George's account is family money, my account is personal", it's still against the law.

85 posted on 06/13/2012 7:14:58 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (If Shellie really loved George, she would have taken his money and run away with it.)
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To: Oztrich Boy
She's not being charged with illegal money transfers but with perjury. The problem for the prosecution is that her answers to their questions were evasive enough that it will have trouble making the charge stick. After all it was a former President and his wife that taught everybody that the words "I don't know" as answers to questions under oath are perfectly legal and acceptable.

Clearly they were in over their heads with the Paypal account and in need of legal guidance regarding it. That guidance should have come before the bond hearing, and MOM should have been the one to provide it. That is what a lawyer is for. He dropped the ball bigtime and his client is paying the price.

But you are right about one thing. Things would have been so much better had they just left that money in the Paypal account. No one but GZ could have touched it. When they moved the money -- that's where they got in trouble here, because the prosecution is using those transfers as evidence to bring this charge of perjury.

86 posted on 06/13/2012 8:36:18 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
She's not being charged with illegal money transfers but with perjury.

I didn't say the money transfers were illegal (although LE/Treasury/Homeland Security may disagree with me on that). The point is she was specifically asked if they had any assets for bond, and she answered "no". Money in an account is normally considered assets, indeed liquid assets, the most available kind, and it doesn't legally become "no assets" simply by moving it into a spouse's or relatives' account.

87 posted on 06/13/2012 9:12:00 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (If Shellie really loved George, she would have taken his money and run away with it.)
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To: CodeToad

When will we know if the judge is part of the set up?


88 posted on 06/13/2012 9:31:07 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2

When he isn’t pissed he was lied to and goes along.


89 posted on 06/13/2012 9:43:21 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: Oztrich Boy
The point is she was specifically asked if they had any assets for bond, and she answered "no".

Perhaps they didn't view the money from the Paypal account as "assets for bond". It was raised for his living expenses and lawyer's fees -- not for bailbond -- and should probably have been offlimits for bailbond calculation.

The prosecutor claims that because they had this money their bailbond should have been higher because it proves that they were not destitute. Who are they kidding??? They were and are a charity case facing a year of legal fees and that money will go fast. If $150,000 bond is considered low for someone in Zimmerman's financial situation, then their jails must be full.

90 posted on 06/13/2012 9:51:48 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: coyotl

When is it a crime to lie? When you are under oath in a court of law. It is perjury. Every time.


91 posted on 06/13/2012 11:37:00 AM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: sappy

I do not remember us condoning perjury when it was Clinton. All of a sudden, we condone it. We think there is nothing wrong with lying under oath. Makes us look a bit hypocritical, doesn’t it?


92 posted on 06/13/2012 11:42:04 AM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: DallasSun

How many years was Clinton jailed for?

If I recall, Linda Tripp got in more legal trouble than Bill Clinton. It’s hypocritical to support “Unequal Justice Under The Law”.


93 posted on 06/13/2012 2:36:45 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

And were you of the belief that Clinton should not be held accountable for perjury? Funny how I do not remember that belief here on Free Republic at the time. It seems to me perjury was taken very seriously at the time. Sacred one’s word was at that time. Goose/gander...pot/kettle. And all that. I am of the belief that perjury should be punished for one and all. Period. There is no gray area when one swears to tell the truth so help me God. I am so sorry so many have chosen to condone perjury in this or any case. I cannot do that. And I am not morally superior to any I know though it may seem I am holding myself to be. That is not what I mean at all.


94 posted on 06/13/2012 4:45:56 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: DallasSun
am so sorry so many have chosen to condone perjury in this or any case.

You misunderstand me. I'm trying to gently explain to you that the "justice" system is broken beyond repair.

All we have now is a bunch of overpaid thugs in black robes, nice suits, and blue uniforms running a vig operation.

"It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity."

Think about that. The "justice" thugs became an immoral entity when they refused to punish Clinton for his perjury, Berger for his willful destruction of government documents, Rangel for his tax evasion, Corzine for his fraud and theft, etc., etc.

95 posted on 06/13/2012 7:54:13 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: DallasSun

no, we didn’t condone it. the left did. it was a private personal matter. a lie about sex. my point was, now the left has to again, cross the tracks in front of the train now that this is a case about race, dragged further down by a partisan hack of a president and accomlice media. i don’t condone perjury in this case or clintons. i wanted to point out that a former president, hero of the left, the first black president perjured himeself. was found guilty, impeached, disbarred, fined. now the left has to reconcile their support for him, to their condemnation of her.


96 posted on 06/14/2012 5:53:48 AM PDT by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: Oztrich Boy

[[Yeah she lied in court, under oath, that’s technically perjury.]]

She is on tape tellign hte judge that she didn’t know how much was in the account and askedd the judge if he wanted her to call the brotherinlaw and find out- to which hte judge replied ‘no- that’s not necessary’ and apaprently the judge is also on tape declaring that even he wasn’t sure of the legality of the paypal account and whether it could be concidered assets

Where are you gettign your facts? I’ve heard that she did not infact move it to her accouitn and that the brotherinlaw was incharge of the accouint-


97 posted on 06/14/2012 10:17:10 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Oztrich Boy

You are statign htings that are not consistant with hte facts- http://www.cnn.com/video/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_freevideo+%28RSS%3A+Video%29#/video/bestoftv/2012/04/27/bts-zimmerman-paypal-money.cnn

This shows that the judge was nopt even sure whether that money could be concidered family assets- if you have proof zim’s wife knew them oney could be concidered amily assets, please post it- because even the judge wasn’t sure whether the paypal donations could have been called family assets- if a judge didn’t know- then how could someoen not aquainted with hte law know? She most likely answered how her lawyer told her to answer abotu hte account- their lawtyer isn’t stupid- and would have known the money would be an issue


98 posted on 06/14/2012 10:24:32 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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