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Posted on 06/13/2012 9:08:22 AM PDT by blam
Going Deep: Its Entirely Possible That Nowhere in North America is a Safe Redoubt
June 13th, 2012
Eric Peters Autos
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Some friends have been actively talking about their Exit Plans about getting out of this country before the curtain goes down. While there is still time. They believe the situation to be hopeless. That despite the upwelling of liberty-mindedness among some, the vast majority of Americans are not liberty-minded. That Americans tens of millions of them are stupid, unreachable, mean, irrational, authoritarian-minded Babbits and poltroons. People who always speak in we and lust to control others.
Reluctantly, I have to concede the point.
I have had exhaustive (and exhausting) conversations with countless people some of them probably a lot smarter than I in terms of raw IQ who just cant connect the dots.
Or much worse dont care to.
The problem is as much psychological as it is intellectual. There may just be a defective sub-species of human being, homo servilus, who much like a bee in a hive is programmed to crave the collective and therefore accepts its corollary coercion as the natural and right order of things.
Its very easy to get these bees to reveal their true natures. Their core antipathy to individualism and its corollary, liberty. Just let them know, for example, that you find sports/celebrity worship disgusting. Or that you dont subscribe to any particular religious doctrine or much care what doctrines otherssubscribe to, so long as they leave you be.
Let them discover that you dont feel obliged to pay more taxes for our children only an obligation to take care of your own children. Criticize war.
Make a negative comment about cops .
So, I dont disagree that jumping ship is probably a smart move. Nonetheless, Im reluctant to leave the country, for many reasons high among them just orneriness. This is my country, dammit. I hate the idea of just giving it to them.
That said, I am beginning to wish Id gone deep when I selected our fallback redoubt. We consciously moved to very rural SW Va. from the Northern Virginia area (near DC) about eight years ago to a great extent to limit our exposure to whats surely coming. But I am thinking now that we would have been smarter to have moved to rural Idaho or Wyoming or Montana (like Chuck Baldwin did) instead. There are too many Clovers here.
And signs of sprouting continue to worry me.
For example: Several recent letters to the editor in our small community newspaper go on and on about how we need to raise taxes on real estate so that our schools will have adequate funding. There is one school an elementary school in a far corner of the county threatened with closure because of limited revenue and not enough students to justify keeping it open. So the idea was floated to close it and consolidate it with another. The children would then get bussed a little farther to their new school. This is an outrage to the parentsites of these children, who believe others should be compelled to provide the necessary revenue to keep the old school open for their children.
Everything discussed in terms of we, of course. Its never my children need you to pay for their school.
If I were to speak at a public hearing about this and ask why dont people who chose to have children bear the responsibility for raising their kids which includes educating their kids as opposed to their kids becoming an open-ended claim on the property on the liberty of other people who had nothing to do with it Id likely be the victim of a mob beating. At minimum, Id become a community pariah regarded as selfish and anti-child (as well as anti-education) because I am troubled by armed men threatening to kill me and take my property so that it may be given to someone elses kids kids Ive never even met let alone had anything to do with bringing into this world. It is no defense, either, that such a policy makes it that much harder for people whod like to pay their own way to do so.
Other peoples kids take precedence. Over everything.
It never occurs to these freedom loving Americans that freedom cant exist when you are no longer free to say no to being forced to hand over your rightful property to other people to whom you properly speaking owe nothing other than goodwill. That if the children becomes a justification for theft, then any other reason is just as good a reason.
But dont dare say it out loud . these freedom-loving Americans will very quickly show you just how much they actually believe in freedom including even the freedom to speak your mind, if your mind differs in any meaningful respect from the parameters of orthodoxical Republican or Democrat parameters.
The only cardinal sin is to commit non-authoritarianism. To state that you dont want anything from anyone except their respect for your rights and are willing to extend the same courtesy in return.
It is a thought increasingly foreign to Americans even here, in a rural southern farming county 35 miles from anything in most places and often a lot farther than that.
In our tiny, literally one-stoplight county, the same government that moans about not having sufficient revenue for the children recently spent probably several thousand dollars painting at least six pedestrian crosswalks in town, complete with safety man icons imprinted into the pavement plus signage. Apparently, people cannot cross the street unaided here, either. I have no doubt that tickets for jaywalking are right around the corner. Tazerings for the non-compliant.
Signs of the apocalypse.
There is talk of writing zoning laws which this county has never had and which will surely mean The End of everything that made moving here worth doing. People will no longer just be able to freely buy and sell their land, to be used however the new owner wishes. There will instead be restrictions on how a lot can subdivided and what may be lawfully constructed on said lot. I can already see a time when BTK-type zoning enforcement officers will be knocking on peoples doors, threatening them with onerous fines (and ultimately, county seizure and auction of their land) if they dont mow it, or have too many cars parked on it or a not approved shed built upon it .
Clovers. The god-damn bastards are here now, too.
It only took them eight years to find this place and ruin it.
Its entirely possible that nowhere in North America is a safe redoubt.
What happens, ultimately, depends on the character of the people. And the character of the American people by and large is one that reflexively defers to authority willingly, worshipfully. That happily submits to the most despicable degradation if it will keep them safe. And which never fails to speak in terms of we.
So, where do the rest of us the remnant that still believes in I go to get away from we?
That, friends, is the question of our time.
I thought of our good friend, FReeper ‘Cuban Leaf’, when I was reading this article.
>>>Its entirely possible that nowhere in North America is a safe redoubt.<<<
It’s a very creepy feeling seeing the same words here that I posted last night in response to another article. God help us.
Patriots band together and stand our ground.
And I know it better than most. I can navigate without night vision on a moonless, cloudy night. I know every dog for blocks, I know every tree, every rock in the creek.
My ground. I'll stand on it or die.
I'll stay in and by my home, live or die. Someday I'll hopefully see God and be able to give a good accounting.
Many of these people live in communities ruled by Homeowners Associations.
This reminds me of the online article I read yesterday in the NY Times (linked from FR) regarding the possibility of the good folks in North Dakota voting to eliminate property taxes. I couldn’t believe the brainwashed comments at the end of the article. They basically said “We cannot eliminate property taxes because then we won’t have basic services like fire, police, schools, etc...”. It didn’t even enter their little pea brains that once you “cut the fat” there are puhlenty of other ways to pay for these services.
It’s like they have been conditioned to the nanny state being the norm and I believe that’s what is so disturbing about the times we live in.
I look at it like so many others have posited whereas we are on a huge ship and it is going to take some time to get it to turn around.
Your fate has already been decided my friend. You are one of the 25,000,000 (give or take a few million due to increased population since the orioginal discussion took place) who whose fate has been discussed and decided already and who will be categorized as “diehard capitalists” who they are unsuccessful at “reeducating” and will simply be eliminated as has been documented in previously.
And, just for reference purposes, that number represents roughly the entire population of:
Hong Kong or
New Zealand or
Pretty much any of the Middle East or Central American countries OR
The ENTIRE population of the 186 smallest countries on the face of the planet.
I distributed this information to my circle (some cons, some libs) but I doubt if it swayed a single one and know for a fact that it didn’t change anything for at least two libs).
As Dr’ Laura once said, paraphrasing:
Unfortunately, some people are just not willing to acknowledge that there is simply evil out there.
We normally look upon the libs as “misguided” but well meaning people. Many of the rank and file are. However, the bulk of them are lazy, egotistical, lying, power hungry, hate filled or just plain evil and those are the facts of life, like it or not.
If we don’t stop or at least slow this down in November, it’s all over except for the fat lady’s appearance.
Maybe I’m too far in the boonies, but I’m not familiar with the term “clovers”. Enlighten me..
Geography is never a safer option than principles and the resolve to stand by them.
So did I. I was going to ping him just as soon as I finished reading the article.
You might find this a interesting read Quix.
The ultimate answer to this is that, in our society as it presently exists, those who don't have children will spend on average 20 or so years of their life freeloading on the children of those who did.
So my two kids will financially have to pay not only for the support of not only my wife and I but also for that of one or more people who chose not to have children. With all the cost of time and money that entails.
The marxist takeover is well under way in spite of the recent battles that we have won. We lost the war decades ago. Neither the libs nor many of the conservatives realize that yet. Keep your powder dry.
If you beleive that after the SHTF there is anyone other than first degree blood you can trust then you are in for a rude awakening. Bands of patriots, neighbors, etc will turn on you without hesitation.
Like at the poker table.. if you don't know who the fish is then you are the fish.
And they are included in your "circle?" What's wrong with you?